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We will see when the accuser backs up both of his accusations and hopefully he/she will do that.

Not cool to simply make serious charges.

Originally Posted by Guest

U.S.C. Title 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE

The way I read it, and correct me if I am mistaken, one cannot sell human body parts to purchase a Lamborghini. And the way I also interpret the law, it specifically mentions for human transplant. I believe you would have to take a bit of liberal leeway so-to-speak, to loosely interpret this to relate to this practice of trafficking in human body parts. Just because one dies does not automatically put them on the donor list. If that was the way it works, then anyone passing away in a hospital could be dismantled and used as a donor. I would hazard a guess that if any of these women were asked if they wished to have a special operation on them so as not to damage the baby body parts so that they could be used for sale to the highest bidder, they would decline. Just a guess, but it would probably be a safe wager.

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And I heard nothing from anyone to support your statement about the pre legal times...like with Iran...it is this deal or war.....no, theire is a law...why should they not be called to obey it ? and remember this is not this organizations first rodeo.

What the heck are you talking about? Iran has something to do with legal abortions? You smoking something that is not legal in Florida?

You have never heard the horror experiences of young ladies before abortion became legal. It was sometimes done by "health care workers" in cheap motel rooms and involved rat poison and coat hangers. Very common for massive infections to set in and lots of deaths, too.

Some women went to Sweden for an abortion. It was legal there but illegal for Americans to have it done there by American law.

Do you want to go back to times like that?

And you wonder why women flock to the Democrat candidates.

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What the heck are you talking about? Iran has something to do with legal abortions? You smoking something that is not legal in Florida?

You have never heard the horror experiences of young ladies before abortion became legal. It was sometimes done by "health care workers" in cheap motel rooms and involved rat poison and coat hangers. Very common for massive infections to set in and lots of deaths, too.

Some women went to Sweden for an abortion. It was legal there but illegal for Americans to have it done there by American law.

Do you want to go back to times like that?

And you wonder why women flock to the Democrat candidates.

You are kidding right? Let me get this right. You think that defunding PP because of their violations, will make abortions illegal? How did you come up with that. Are you saying that if PP is not allowed to sell human body parts, then Republicans hate women? Dude, get a grip.

Originally Posted by Guest

What the heck are you talking about? Iran has something to do with legal abortions? You smoking something that is not legal in Florida?

You have never heard the horror experiences of young ladies before abortion became legal. It was sometimes done by "health care workers" in cheap motel rooms and involved rat poison and coat hangers. Very common for massive infections to set in and lots of deaths, too.

Some women went to Sweden for an abortion. It was legal there but illegal for Americans to have it done there by American law.

Do you want to go back to times like that?

And you wonder why women flock to the Democrat candidates.

Some only read or hear what they want.

Let me make it clearer

Iran deal has NOTHING to do with abortion. Ok?

Point was that this kind of argument is becoming the norm, FOR EXAMPLE...it is either this deal or war. No in between, no discussion, that's it. You are presenting this issue that has many upset as....Planned Parenthood or back to the side streets. NOBODY HAS SAID OR EVEN SUGGESTED THAT.

Herein, is the problem today in many issues. No middle ground...it is my way or some extreme that is TOTALLY MADE UP.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are kidding right? Let me get this right. You think that defunding PP because of their violations, will make abortions illegal? How did you come up with that. Are you saying that if PP is not allowed to sell human body parts, then Republicans hate women? Dude, get a grip.

Some automatically race to the extreme, and they have no idea what middle ground is or reasonable discussion, and then to top it off they MAKE UP EXTREMES and tell you that is what you believe, no matter how imagined or unrealistic or unsupported.

I suppose that makes them feel right. If you call ALL Republicans racist or some word of THEIR choice, no matter how stupid, it makes them feel better about themselves.

Originally Posted by Guest

The way I read it, and correct me if I am mistaken, one cannot sell human body parts to purchase a Lamborghini. And the way I also interpret the law, it specifically mentions for human transplant. I believe you would have to take a bit of liberal leeway so-to-speak, to loosely interpret this to relate to this practice of trafficking in human body parts. Just because one dies does not automatically put them on the donor list. If that was the way it works, then anyone passing away in a hospital could be dismantled and used as a donor. I would hazard a guess that if any of these women were asked if they wished to have a special operation on them so as not to damage the baby body parts so that they could be used for sale to the highest bidder, they would decline. Just a guess, but it would probably be a safe wager.

AND you may NOT adjust the procedure you use to allow for "donations" and I know there was discussions on not crushing the head, and going lower or higher, etc.

Abortions are legal. The practices Planned Parenthood carries out are legal. Planned Parenthood may or may not lose its government funding depending on how the senate votes tomorrow. Those are the facts as we know them.

Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care. 'Who do they think they are?' they ask.

Women are not going back to the bad old days, whatever it takes.

Originally Posted by Guest

Abortions are legal. The practices Planned Parenthood carries out are legal. Planned Parenthood may or may not lose its government funding depending on how the senate votes tomorrow. Those are the facts as we know them.

Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care. 'Who do they think they are?' they ask.

Women are not going back to the bad old days, whatever it takes.

Your post is a total and complete POLITICAL statement and you really need to do your homework before embarrassing yourself on here or in public.

NOBODY, ANYWHERE,AT ANYTIME proposed anything even resembling your political knee jerk reaction.

Originally Posted by Guest

Abortions are legal. The practices Planned Parenthood carries out are legal. Planned Parenthood may or may not lose its government funding depending on how the senate votes tomorrow. Those are the facts as we know them.

Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care. 'Who do they think they are?' they ask.

Women are not going back to the bad old days, whatever it takes.

Please get out and get informed...

"For years, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid helped shield Democrats from taking such politically difficult votes, instead forcing Republicans to vote down increases to the minimum wage, paycheck equity and student loan reform proposals.
But now the tables have turned.McConnell (R-Ky.) scheduled the vote not just to satisfy his own socially conservative members, but also to put the squeeze on moderate Democrats."


Read more: Planned Parenthood videos: Senate vote squeezes Dem moderates - POLITICO

Originally Posted by Guest

Abortions are legal. The practices Planned Parenthood carries out are legal. Planned Parenthood may or may not lose its government funding depending on how the senate votes tomorrow. Those are the facts as we know them.

Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care. 'Who do they think they are?' they ask.

Women are not going back to the bad old days, whatever it takes.

Please give me an example of "Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care." You know, getting an abortion on a whim, is not like getting a tooth pulled. If only 1% of abortions are a necessity due to rape, incest or medical reasons, then there's still a heck of a lot of folks getting rid of their babies out of convenience or whim. I want health care for those babies, how about you? Do you hate babies? That is the kind of extreme rhetoric that is coming from you and other liberals. Like many on here have said in previous posts, no one is denying a woman her abortion, even if PP is defunded. Where you get such an idea, must be from Pelosi. It sounds like something she would say. Or, maybe Obama?

I guess CHI-TOWN went to supper.

It is getting old, this total distortion of facts and even what the discussion is about.

From one of those nasty Republicans out to harm everyone

"“We need an investigation about whether Planned Parenthood has violated federal law and medical ethics,” Collins told POLITICO. “But, I am concerned about the millions of women who go to Planned Parenthood for cancer screenings and family planning and to immediately cut them off, millions of women would have to find alternative health care providers. I don’t think it’s that easy. It seems to me we need a more targeted approach.”
She and Manchin say they are working on a compromise amendment that would investigate Planned Parenthood but not cut off funding immediately."


Read more: Planned Parenthood videos: Senate vote squeezes Dem moderates - POLITICO

Pretty far from the presentations on here from people who simply pile on with no facts....but that is easier than actually reading before posting

Originally Posted by Guest

Please give me an example of "Nothing irks republicans more than poor people getting health care." You know, getting an abortion on a whim, is not like getting a tooth pulled. If only 1% of abortions are a necessity due to rape, incest or medical reasons, then there's still a heck of a lot of folks getting rid of their babies out of convenience or whim. I want health care for those babies, how about you? Do you hate babies? That is the kind of extreme rhetoric that is coming from you and other liberals. Like many on here have said in previous posts, no one is denying a woman her abortion, even if PP is defunded. Where you get such an idea, must be from Pelosi. It sounds like something she would say. Or, maybe Obama?

How about the republican congress voting close to 60 times to repeal Obamacare, because many of the 19 million effected are moderate or low income people, many of whom have healthcare for the first time.

How about all the republican governors refusing to expand Medicaid, even though the federal government pays most of it the first five years. Who does that effect, the wealthy?

Planned Parenthood provides pre-natal and post-natal care. Cutting government funding to PP will infringe on the availability of that care.

The republican congress has had time to take close to 60 votes on Obamacare, just to show what their priorities are.

Planned Parenthood gets 40% of it's funding from gov subsidy. And interesting fact is how much some of their top employees make. Quite a bit more than most gov workers, for sure. I guess they better do some salary cutbacks if they are going to have to make 60% of their funding work for them.