Originally Posted by Loveithere

Yea, maybe your right, I edited it. But there is many posts here that crosses the line and if you can dish it out, one must expect to take it.

I know, it's been a tough couple of years. Folks are frustrated on all sides. Thank goodness though when things get really bad or we get attacked by non-Americans, you can bet that we all stick together.

Ladydoc--- Newt's ex-wife is alive and well. She was in the hospital to have a benign tumor removed. The divorce, which she asked for, was already in the works. This info comes from their daughter.

http://www.salon.com/2011/03/08/ging...spital_cancer/

Jon Stewart had an interesting "Moment of Zen" last night.

He showed a clip, dated October 8, 2008, of Newt Gingrich saying "Senator Obama, will you return all the money you received from Freddie and Fannie?"

Originally Posted by djplong

Jon Stewart had an interesting "Moment of Zen" last night.

He showed a clip, dated October 8, 2008, of Newt Gingrich saying "Senator Obama, will you return all the money you received from Freddie and Fannie?"

Funny...I can't wait to see how this is going to be twisted into Newtie being "a good man."

Originally Posted by Posh 08

I know, it's been a tough couple of years. Folks are frustrated on all sides. Thank goodness though when things get really bad or we get attacked by non-Americans, you can bet that we all stick together.

It has been a tough couple of years and as election season approaches, it will get worse and worse. The campaign cycle is going to be vicious, on both sides. Nothing will be sacred...religion included. If Romney is up, the Morman faith will be on trial, if it is Newt, every terrible and unethical thing he ever did will be fodder. Unfortunately, it will be Obama up and the whole citizen thing will be tossed around again as well as his "real" religion. The lossers in all of this is us, the people all these politicians are supposed to be working for.

I hate election season because I can not stand the talking heads who will NOT let someone of another party get a word in edgewise. They talk over each other all the time. The debates, which are the only things I pay any attention to, are not that great either. Why can't the moderators say ANSWER THE QUESTION or I am going to cut off your mike? They never answer the questions. They don't care what question they are asked....the say what they want to say and what they want to say is repetitive and predictable.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

It has been a tough couple of years and as election season approaches, it will get worse and worse. The campaign cycle is going to be vicious, on both sides. Nothing will be sacred...religion included. If Romney is up, the Morman faith will be on trial, if it is Newt, every terrible and unethical thing he ever did will be fodder. Unfortunately, it will be Obama up and the whole citizen thing will be tossed around again as well as his "real" religion. The lossers in all of this is us, the people all these politicians are supposed to be working for.

I hate election season because I can not stand the talking heads who will NOT let someone of another party get a word in edgewise. They talk over each other all the time. The debates, which are the only things I pay any attention to, are not that great either. Why can't the moderators say ANSWER THE QUESTION or I am going to cut off your mike? They never answer the questions. They don't care what question they are asked....the say what they want to say and what they want to say is repetitive and predictable.

I get my news from the AP and not the spin of cable or networks. Debates I watch in this primary season and waiting for the general election debates. Newt and the President should be good debates IMHO.

It has been a tough couple of years and as election season approaches, it will get worse and worse. The campaign cycle is going to be vicious, on both sides. Nothing will be sacred...religion included. If Romney is up, the Morman faith will be on trial, if it is Newt, every terrible and unethical thing he ever did will be fodder. Unfortunately, it will be Obama up and the whole citizen thing will be tossed around again as well as his "real" religion. The lossers in all of this is us, the people all these politicians are supposed to be working for.

I hate election season because I can not stand the talking heads who will NOT let someone of another party get a word in edgewise. They talk over each other all the time. The debates, which are the only things I pay any attention to, are not that great either. Why can't the moderators say ANSWER THE QUESTION or I am going to cut off your mike? They never answer the questions. They don't care what question they are asked....the say what they want to say and what they want to say is repetitive and predictable. __________________

I agree with every syllable you have written here. I was just sitting around thinking every time I lean toward someone I get the full anal exam report about what a terrible person they are.
I wonder if we need to set up a little world where we raise a new leader sorta like the moive "The Truman Show". That way we know every little thing about them so we get the real staory about them instead of the spin from either side.
That can't go wrong!!!

Originally Posted by notlongnow

I agree with every syllable you have written here. I was just sitting around thinking every time I lean toward someone I get the full anal exam report about what a terrible person they are.
I wonder if we need to set up a little world where we raise a new leader sorta like the moive "The Truman Show". That way we know every little thing about them so we get the real staory about them instead of the spin from either side.
That can't go wrong!!!

Well, thank you. Nice to read a rational post.

Raising politicians under glass...now there is an interesting idea. Did you see that movie that was out a year or two ago about the kids who were born and breed to be organ donors? I can not remember the name, but I do remember that Michelle Williams was in it.

All I want in a politician is someone who tells the truth regards of party line and has the strength of character to admit to their shortcomings instead of spinning them ad naseum. Being able to change their position on an issue after new information was introduced would be a really nice bonus as well. I don't understand why changing your mind after learning something new is seen as a bad thing.

Personally, I think Herman Cain's still unproven allegations of sexual harassment pale in comparison to the known dealings of Gingerich and the loathing far right wingers have for Romneycare.

In fact, Cain NOT being a career politician nor Washington Insider has been his main appeal all along.

Perhaps the times for the likes of a Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan are past us?
Perhaps the media mudrakers and /or political pundits have become expert in hyberbole effectively creating a mountain out of a mole hill?

Perhaps there really never was a pure candidate but the media and political pundits strongly believed that for the sake of the country they had to take the high road and focus on the nation's troubles and comparing the skills of candidates learning which in their opinion possess the best to resolve our problems?

Perhaps the /american people have become so exposed to a "Hollywood reality mentaility" that we no longer recognize what is required to maintain a civil society?

For those opposed to Newt Gingrich, you will savor Ann coulter's column in Sunday"s Daily Sun.

For those of you opposed to Sarah Palin you would be proud of the article she wrote which was published in today's (11/18) pertaining to the immumity congress has from insiderer trading which enriches them all. Palin demands that the Freedom of Information Act, conflict of interest laws, etc be mndated to apply to Congress. Her article is classic Palin and the reason I wish she was elected to a federal office. She is a doer. But again she too faced the media which ground her up like hamburger. What person in his/her right mind would place themselves at the mercy of these jackals.?

[QUOTE=Guest;419607]For those opposed to Newt Gingrich, you will savor Ann coulter's column in Sunday"s Daily Sun.
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The only way I would savor ann coulter is with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Originally Posted by rubicon

Perhaps the times for the likes of a Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan are past us?
Perhaps the media mudrakers and /or political pundits have become expert in hyberbole effectively creating a mountain out of a mole hill?

Perhaps there really never was a pure candidate but the media and political pundits strongly believed that for the sake of the country they had to take the high road and focus on the nation's troubles and comparing the skills of candidates learning which in their opinion possess the best to resolve our problems?

Perhaps the /american people have become so exposed to a "Hollywood reality mentaility" that we no longer recognize what is required to maintain a civil society?

...... She is a doer. But again she too faced the media which ground her up like hamburger. What person in his/her right mind would place themselves at the mercy of these jackals.?

All of the above.

An example of how the media and Hollywood have distorted the lens thru which we see candidates is Tina Fey's portrayal of Palin on SNL. At first it was fun, because Fey is such a good impersonator and actor. But then, we started seeing that real voters actually thought Palin WAS the moronic caricature that Fey created by repeating, "I can see Russia from my house!". Then real voters started believing Palin doesn't read books or newspapers because she refused to dignify with a response, the condescending, belittling question by Katie Couric, PhD in who-knows-what.

I think really, in a lot of cases, people are voting for the caricature they have seen in brief blips by the media instead of for the person they've watched performing their duties on the job for a long time or in town hall meetings where they can speak without a pundit "moderator" cutting them off after 30 seconds and right when they start the substantive answer.

Please try to address the topic at hand ... the candidacy and campaign of Newt Gingrich.

There were many personal attack posts in this thread that have now been deleted.

Remember... address the post and not the post-er.

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Originally Posted by Guest

For those opposed to Newt Gingrich, you will savor Ann coulter's column in Sunday"s Daily Sun.
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The only way I would savor ann coulter is with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Ann Coulter is probably one of the most intelligent women in the media, bar none. Perhaps she threatens the masculinity of some liberals and left-leaning media? She must ring alot of truth or she would be ignored.