Here is the concern I have.

N Korea is making nukes
Pakistan is making nukes
India is making nukes
Belarus has agreed in 2010 to stop but they reneged and are making nukes.
Saudi Arabia has announced they will begin a program directly because of Iran
Russia is making changes to increase their nuke production.

And this quote from

"“Regional conflicts have gotten worse, not better” over Obama’s 6½ years, said former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), now the CEO of the Nuclear Threat Initiative. “All the things that give rise to nuclear ambitions … in my view have gotten worse.”

Obama’s proliferation problem – POLITICO

And this is the scary part....very scary......

"In addition, the possibility that terrorists could acquire enough radioactive material to create a nuclear weapon or so-called dirty bomb is “one of the greatest dangers facing the global community,” according to a report released in June from the 80-member Fissile Materials Working Group. Nuclear experts warn that highly enriched uranium at civilian sites — enough for hundreds of nuclear weapons spread over 100 facilities in the remaining 25 countries that possess it — tends to be less secure than that used in military applications. It’s generally up to the states that have those materials, including South Africa, Belarus and Kazakhstan, to keep them safe."

Just re read that paragraph.....it will not take much to destroy an entire....well, entire what would depend on how much money the group that wants to destroy has and guess who is going to get more money.....IRAN the single largest state supporter of terrorism.

And our President, being a peace loving guy (and I do not mean that to be sarcastic) has promised not to develop any new nuclear weapons on his watch, the first President in the nuclear era to do that.

I really worry because certain folks will be getting money and can afford to BUY whatever they want to promote anything terrorist. They need not to have their program in effect so it is easy for them to agree.

Concerning Iran getting a nuclear weapon, they could, if IAEA doesn't do their job. if Iran does get nuclear weapons, it will not be in great numbers. They would probably launch it/them against Israel. They would kill a lot of innocent people, which is totally wrong, but they wouldn't cause Israel total destruction.

If they did this, they have to know they would be wiped off the face of the earth. Can an entire country be so ready to die?

Israel with the help of the US will never let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

Originally Posted by Guest

The reason that the four hostages weren't included in the deal with Iran is Iran would probably have looked for a concession in the deal to free the hostages. The agreement was hard enough to begin with. By adding anything to it might have made it impossible.

Yes, I heard this same statement coming from the President's mouth. The problem is that I don't understand it. A concession?? How could that be possible when we already had conceded everything to begin with?? So I guess the only way to get an "agreement" was for them to get what they wanted and us to get nothing in return? Unless I'm totally missing something here, I still see it as a bloodletting on our part, hopefully not to be followed by bloodshed. And I mean that sincerely...........praying for our country because it's the only thing I can think of to do at this point.

Originally Posted by Guest

Concerning Iran getting a nuclear weapon, they could, if IAEA doesn't do their job. if Iran does get nuclear weapons, it will not be in great numbers. They would probably launch it/them against Israel. They would kill a lot of innocent people, which is totally wrong, but they wouldn't cause Israel total destruction.

If they did this, they have to know they would be wiped off the face of the earth. Can an entire country be so ready to die?

Israel with the help of the US will never let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

If you read post 61 and other links supplied and the european press, Iran does not NEED to get a nuclear weapon. They are the "lead dog" in terrorism and will have, from Russia, ICBMs and MONEY to help those developing weapons.

Originally Posted by Guest

Concerning Iran getting a nuclear weapon, they could, if IAEA doesn't do their job. if Iran does get nuclear weapons, it will not be in great numbers. They would probably launch it/them against Israel. They would kill a lot of innocent people, which is totally wrong, but they wouldn't cause Israel total destruction.

If they did this, they have to know they would be wiped off the face of the earth. Can an entire country be so ready to die?

Israel with the help of the US will never let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

You don't understand radical Islam's mindset. Iran hates Israel and us. They don't care about the consequences of their actions and when (not if) they get a nuke, they WILL use it against Israel. These type of people do not think in the 21st or even in 20th century. When dealing with radicals, you have to deal with them via power. They have no respect for what they perceive as weakness in us. No, the only way to deal with Iran is with a hammer, not an open hand. As far as Israel is concerned, as long a Obama is residing in the White House, they will have nothing to say. He won't back them. He disrespects them, and I really believe he prefers the state of Islam over our close allies of Israel. Probably because he was indoctrinated by the Muslim in school in his youth. There are appox. 200,000 Americans residing in Israel, making it almost another small state. We have bit of an obligation to protect our interests over there. Either due to our fellow Americans or because of Israel's strategic value.

Originally Posted by Guest

You don't understand radical Islam's mindset. Iran hates Israel and us. They don't care about the consequences of their actions and when (not if) they get a nuke, they WILL use it against Israel. These type of people do not think in the 21st or even in 20th century. When dealing with radicals, you have to deal with them via power. They have no respect for what they perceive as weakness in us. No, the only way to deal with Iran is with a hammer, not an open hand. As far as Israel is concerned, as long a Obama is residing in the White House, they will have nothing to say. He won't back them. He disrespects them, and I really believe he prefers the state of Islam over our close allies of Israel. Probably because he was indoctrinated by the Muslim in school in his youth. There are appox. 200,000 Americans residing in Israel, making it almost another small state. We have bit of an obligation to protect our interests over there. Either due to our fellow Americans or because of Israel's strategic value.

Your point is well stated and I agree. I think there is a select group of people that will never see that point of view however for one reason - they don't understand or believe that there is real evil in the world. I can't tell you how many times I have been laughed at for even mentioning the word in conversation/debate. I don't know if it is ignorance, or lacking a spiritual side, or what, but for some reason there are people who just can't or won't acknowledge evil, so it is hard for them to fathom what you say. The idea that radicalism exists to the point that their sole purpose is the destruction and annihilation of other people or countries is beyond some people's comprehension no matter how you try to state it. If one DOES understand that evil exists however, even the thought of making a deal with a country that wants all of us dead (and continues to state that while the deal is being made!) IS incomprehensible to say the least.

Originally Posted by Guest

Your point is well stated and I agree. I think there is a select group of people that will never see that point of view however for one reason - they don't understand or believe that there is real evil in the world. I can't tell you how many times I have been laughed at for even mentioning the word in conversation/debate. I don't know if it is ignorance, or lacking a spiritual side, or what, but for some reason there are people who just can't or won't acknowledge evil, so it is hard for them to fathom what you say. The idea that radicalism exists to the point that their sole purpose is the destruction and annihilation of other people or countries is beyond some people's comprehension no matter how you try to state it. If one DOES understand that evil exists however, even the thought of making a deal with a country that wants all of us dead (and continues to state that while the deal is being made!) IS incomprehensible to say the least.

Exactly!!

The supporters will never do or say anything that is not in line with the Obama agenda or consistent with party dictates.
Understanding has nothing to do with their intentions or actions.....there is none required or expected.

Originally Posted by Guest

The supporters will never do or say anything that is not in line with the Obama agenda or consistent with party dictates.
Understanding has nothing to do with their intentions or actions.....there is none required or expected.

You got that right!

JUST BE AWARE.....AS HAS BEEN SAID ON HER MANY TIMES.

Despite the ridicule heaped on Romney, and then ridicule typed in this forum in 2008, when Romney told what the biggest threat was....Obama then ridiculed him for weeks.

"Despite the preoccupation with Iran’s nuclear program, Iran currently has nothing of that nature which can threaten the homeland of the United States. Yet, Russia can obliterate the United States, a fact that has been highlighted recently by no less than three top American generals. The term, “existential threat,” has been used repeatedly to describe the Russian challenge. That term means the Russians can destroy the United States as a nation"

The nation is fiercely debating the Iran nuclear deal and the significance of the Ayatollah’s “death to America” tweets when the real problem is Iran’s sponsor, Russia, and its lunatic ruler, Vladimir Putin. By controlling the media, killing off the opposition, and smearing Ukrainian freedom fighters as Nazis, the former KGB colonel has his country worked into a collective frenzy over a concocted Western threat. Some experts believe Russia is preparing for nuclear war on a global scale. If Putin carries out his threats, America is no more.

In this case, the U.S. is facing not only a nuclear weapons program, which is the case with Iran, but what our top generals are calling an “existential threat” to our survival as a nation.

As the National Institute for Public Policy documents in the report, “Foreign Nuclear Developments: A Gathering Storm,” Russia has a new military doctrine that anticipates using nuclear weapons, and the regime has embarked on “a massive strategic modernization program to deploy new nuclear weapons and delivery systems.”

Not only that, but Russia has a ballistic missile defense to use against us."

Putin Threatens America with Nuclear Annihilation

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"A vulnerable antagonist. Federal Reserve chair Janet Yellen says America faces little danger from Russia’s current troubles, but that’s because she thinks in economic terms. In a broader sense, America potentially is in great danger because Putin and his advisors really believe they are the target of a Western plot to weaken their country. The biggest concern is that some new move by Russia along its borders degenerates into a crisis where Moscow thinks it can improve its tactical situation by threatening local use of nuclear weapons, and then the crisis escalates. At that point U.S. policymakers would have to face the reality that (1) they are unwilling to fight Russia to protect places like Ukraine, and (2) they have no real defenses of the American homeland against a sizable nuclear attack. In other words, the only reason Washington seems to have the upper hand right now is because it assumes leaders in Moscow will act “rationally.”"



If you wish to tie this Iran deal together with what else accompanies it, read the link here and above.

Iran is a puppet of Russia.

Why Putin's Russia Is The Biggest Threat To America In 2015

Former Republican presidential candidate and Tea Party favorite explains why the Iran deal is actually a good thing and why we should all be glad we live in these exciting times!

Michele Bachmann: Iran deal a cause for celebration because it proves the End Times have begun in earnest - Salon.com

Anybody who takes a position of supporting the agreement without knowing the impact and nature of the side agreements is doing nothing more than parroting their party rhetoric.

Until such time as the content of the side agreements is know.....NO ONE knows the validity of the "agreement".

I suggest most who are in support cannot even articulate the supposed content of the agreement....the major objectives agreed to and any timings.

Any takers?

There is absolutely nothing that we or congress can do to stop the agreement. The great emperor, king of czars has made his decision contrary to what is good for America or the rest of the world. Iran will not need to build nukes. They will purchase them from Russia. They will have all their money back and free to trade. NO sanctions.

Interesting to note that two former George Bush senior diplomats back the treaty. Of course, these diplomats aren't as smart and well versed as the posters from the Villages who frequent this site when they aren't reading Alinsky, as if any of them really have.

Former Bush Diplomats Push Back on Criticism of Iran Deal « LobeLog

How come none of the Villages Tea Party holy roller crowd haven't jumped on the Michele Bachman bandwagon? Here's another link to her reassuring position in case some of you astute readers missed it.


Michele Bachmann Is 'Extremely Excited' for Iran Deal Because It Will Usher God's Judgement on the World as Foretold In Zechariah 12:3