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Old 07-04-2012, 11:56 AM
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UOTE=eweissenbach;516289]I think that the ones who use name calling and cute constructions (obamascare for example), do it to agitate people on the other side of an issue, and love that it gets under their skin.[/QUOTE]

I sincerely apologize because I use that term always and was totally unaware it was considered in anyway to be offensive. I do apologize and will not do it again, although the media uses it all the time which is where I picked it up and many left leaning posters use it as well.

But now that I know it is considered to be cute, which I am not close to...wont happen again

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Old 07-04-2012, 01:45 PM
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UOTE=eweissenbach;516289]I think that the ones who use name calling and cute constructions (obamascare for example), do it to agitate people on the other side of an issue, and love that it gets under their skin.
I sincerely apologize because I use that term always and was totally unaware it was considered in anyway to be offensive. I do apologize and will not do it again, although the media uses it all the time which is where I picked it up and many left leaning posters use it as well.

But now that I know it is considered to be cute, which I am not close to...wont happen again

Sorry[/QUOTE]

Not sure you understood Bucco. While obamaCARE is a contrived construction, and may be offensive to some because it seems to imply that the POTUS was totally responsible for it - I was referring to obamaSCARE, which was a term BTK used a couple days ago.
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I sincerely apologize because I use that term always and was totally unaware it was considered in anyway to be offensive. I do apologize and will not do it again, although the media uses it all the time which is where I picked it up and many left leaning posters use it as well.

But now that I know it is considered to be cute, which I am not close to...wont happen again

Sorry
Not sure you understood Bucco. While obamaCARE is a contrived construction, and may be offensive to some because it seems to imply that the POTUS was totally responsible for it - I was referring to obamaSCARE, which was a term BTK used a couple days ago.[/QUOTE]

That is good to hear....however I will still restrain myself I suppose. I am not a fan of the cutsey stuff !
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:04 PM
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Not sure you understood Bucco. While obamaCARE is a contrived construction, and may be offensive to some because it seems to imply that the POTUS was totally responsible for it - I was referring to obamaSCARE, which was a term BTK used a couple days ago.
That is good to hear....however I will still restrain myself I suppose. I am not a fan of the cutsey stuff ![/QUOTE]

Even if I get crosswise with you occasionally, and I think you are a little obsessive, you are obviously a good man.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:09 PM
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I will take the middle ground here. I think that many people on this board have as much intellectual capacity as Ms. Pallin. At the same time, she is not dumb or she could not have fooled as many good people as she has. My feeling is she was rather insular, having spent many years in a small town in a very small state which is isolated from the rest of the U.S. geographically. She did not, in my opinion, posess the gravitas to be the Vice President of the nation. I think calling her dumb is not giving her enough credit for the things she has accomplished, but did she have enough intellectual capacity, or the ability to work through the kind of weighty issues a President would have to handle, not close in my opinion. (I'm guessing this will elicit several responses as to the current POTUS's intellect, experience, etc. so knock yourselves out).
Hi eweissenbach As has been documented eve by the lefties, Palin boke through and broke down the good old boy network in Alaska. She demonstrated that one could be honest and also demonstrated that her desires were in the best interests of Alaska and its people. My wife would disagree but I cannot fault her for leaving the governorship. The lefties caused such distractions costing her and Alaska precious time and money. she recognized that as long as she held that office she would continue to be a target. quite frankly I believe she showed courage in leaving because she was well aware of what criticsm was coming. What I am not sure of is why the lefties feared her so much that they were unrelenting in their attacks and given the the HBO movie Game changer still fear her.

Palin had more politrical leadership than Obama in 2008 and leadership that required the cooperation of both parties. all Obama had to show was his experience as a community organizer whose main objective was to divide, destroy and conquer. Obama carried that same community organizer agenda with him andcontinues to operate in that same manner. of course he calls it things like hope and change and class warfare and......

I opine others can decide
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:51 PM
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I wonder what a Mitt Romney advisor meant when he said that Sarah Palin 'poisoned the well' for picking a woman to be VP. Wonder what he meant by that?


http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/0...ey-ticket?lite
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Hi eweissenbach As has been documented eve by the lefties, Palin boke through and broke down the good old boy network in Alaska. She demonstrated that one could be honest and also demonstrated that her desires were in the best interests of Alaska and its people. My wife would disagree but I cannot fault her for leaving the governorship. The lefties caused such distractions costing her and Alaska precious time and money. she recognized that as long as she held that office she would continue to be a target. quite frankly I believe she showed courage in leaving because she was well aware of what criticsm was coming. What I am not sure of is why the lefties feared her so much that they were unrelenting in their attacks and given the the HBO movie Game changer still fear her.

Palin had more politrical leadership than Obama in 2008 and leadership that required the cooperation of both parties. all Obama had to show was his experience as a community organizer whose main objective was to divide, destroy and conquer. Obama carried that same community organizer agenda with him andcontinues to operate in that same manner. of course he calls it things like hope and change and class warfare and......

I opine others can decide
BULLETIN: President Obama updates his resume'

Community Organizer
IL State Senator
US Senator (D-IL)
President of the United States (winning in a landslide victory)

What better experience for running for president of the US, than being president of the US.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:30 PM
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BULLETIN: President Obama updates his resume'

Community Organizer
IL State Senator
US Senator (D-IL)
President of the United States (winning in a landslide victory)

What better experience for running for president of the US, than being president of the US.
Yea ,he's a legend in his own mind and come to think of your mind too

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I wonder what a Mitt Romney advisor meant when he said that Sarah Palin 'poisoned the well' for picking a woman to be VP. Wonder what he meant by that?


Report: Palin 'poisoned the well' for a woman to join Romney ticket - The Ed Show






"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."

I am hoping Willard picks The Wasilla Quitta for VP. The possibilities would be endless..............
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:50 AM
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Look, I don't need to go to the tabloids for reasons to not support Palin. My reasons for not liking her on the ticket were as follows:

- Mayor of a town that required little work. When interviewed, the current mayor of Wasilla said that the big thing that town employees did was "show up on Tuesdays for their paychecks". There's no police or fire departments run by Wasilla - that's done by state and county officials.

- Governor of a welfare state. Alaska get so much oil revenue that each citizen gets a rebate check every year - the size of which depends on how long they've been a resident. Being the Governor of Alaska means you've NEVER had to make a hard budget decision in your entire term. You BARELY have to prioritize because of all the revenue you're swimming in.

When prepared, this woman was DEFINITELY "telegenic". She had "it" and could really motivate a crowd when she was 'on'. But when caught unaware or off-guard, she failed miserably. I mean, the one "mainstream media" moment that said SO much to me to reinforce my opinion was Katie Couric and having a "deer caught in the headlights" look at a softball question that my kids could andwer in grade school - what newspapers do you read?

If I had seen *only* that, I would have written it off as a bad moment - but there were others *and* her resume was threadbare.

And yes, a couple of years in the U.S. Senate *does* count more than any amount of time as Governor of Alaska. A couple of years in the Senate would be *chicken feed* against the governor of a much more difficult state to manage - like almost all of them. Heck, Romney is WAY more qualified than Palin. He actually had to work with a virulently difficult legislature in Massachusetts.
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Look, I don't need to go to the tabloids for reasons to not support Palin. My reasons for not liking her on the ticket were as follows:

- Mayor of a town that required little work. When interviewed, the current mayor of Wasilla said that the big thing that town employees did was "show up on Tuesdays for their paychecks". There's no police or fire departments run by Wasilla - that's done by state and county officials.

- Governor of a welfare state. Alaska get so much oil revenue that each citizen gets a rebate check every year - the size of which depends on how long they've been a resident. Being the Governor of Alaska means you've NEVER had to make a hard budget decision in your entire term. You BARELY have to prioritize because of all the revenue you're swimming in.

When prepared, this woman was DEFINITELY "telegenic". She had "it" and could really motivate a crowd when she was 'on'. But when caught unaware or off-guard, she failed miserably. I mean, the one "mainstream media" moment that said SO much to me to reinforce my opinion was Katie Couric and having a "deer caught in the headlights" look at a softball question that my kids could andwer in grade school - what newspapers do you read?

If I had seen *only* that, I would have written it off as a bad moment - but there were others *and* her resume was threadbare.

And yes, a couple of years in the U.S. Senate *does* count more than any amount of time as Governor of Alaska. A couple of years in the Senate would be *chicken feed* against the governor of a much more difficult state to manage - like almost all of them. Heck, Romney is WAY more qualified than Palin. He actually had to work with a virulently difficult legislature in Massachusetts.
I understand where you go not to get information but may I ask your reason for sharing all of this.
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in your catharsis on qualifications you forgot to mention that Romney is far more qualified than Obama.....using the basis you presented.

I also would like to hear why you think 2 years in the senate (remember it is a part time job) is more meaningful than running a small town.

We know the senate is a glad handing, no effort required, no risks taken, what's in it for me, no matter what wrong you do you can't get fired part time job. Almost any high school graduate could do the job as well. Just look at the incumbents.

Running a small town or small business, unless one has done it there is no real knowledge to qualify for criticism.

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Old 07-05-2012, 09:20 AM
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Would you equate serving as governor of a small state (MA) the same experience as being President of the United States for the same amount of time?
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:34 AM
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serving as POTUS does not automatically qualify a person any more than being the CEO of a small or large company.

When discussing qualifications the usual approach is to compare the qualifications/accomplishments/capabilities of the individual.

Just as you know my opinion regarding Obama's performance is negative. So to me and the millions like me his having the title of POTUS certainly does not make him the better candidate. In fact the four year track record works against his alleged "qualification(s)".

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Would you equate serving as governor of a small state (MA) the same experience as being President of the United States for the same amount of time?
Demonstrated incompetence does not qualify you to continue in a job. It shows that you should be fired.
 


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