Originally Posted by Guest

What about your teachers? Were you home schooled?

Teachers provide a service for compensation, do they not? Then what make them any more special than anyone else providing a service for compensation?

Can't you switch to a different channel or forum or messaging so as to not cluter up the forum with a personal pi$$ing contest.

Originally Posted by Guest

The reason the kids today need a BA/BS degree for entry level is because their degree is equivalent to one of our High School diplomas. When today's college graduate can't even write a coherent sentence or do simple math, there is something radically wrong with the education system. Today's basic liberal arts degree does nothing that a decent HS education should be able to give you. And the jobs they perform do not need it anyway.

And WHY is that? Because education has been dumbed down so the dark minorities can "compete". We dropped from #1 in the world to #17 because of quotas, affirmative action, and dumbing down standards so they could get in. It's "racist" to have standards they can't attain. So we lowered them.

MOST jobs don't need a degree. It's required to weed out the minorities who even with all the free school and lowered standards, usually don't make it to graduation.

Originally Posted by Guest

Condescending? Is there a word for people who feel superior to people who insult and look down on others?

Isaac Newton said "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." That's how I feel. Newton didn't say--"I'm a self made man who amoung other things invented the reflecting telescope with nobody helping me out at all. In fact I'm probably the best telescope maker who ever lived."

I do feel responsible for the failures of others.


I still think the GI Bill is an example of the government trying to pay back the military but it's not affirmative action. I was wrong about that.
affirmative action
an action or policy favoring those who tend to suffer from discrimination, especially in relation to employment or education; positive discrimination.

And I still think we all get help. That doesn't make us helpless if we also help others.

But I bet that's what he was thinking...and he should have.

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That's the problem, isn't it? What do middle class jobs look like?

I told my kids in high school to prepare for college but also take the Cisco Networking Courses the high school offered and pass the CNA exam. This way you have options. They did not pass the exam but took the courses, became engineers and they are the gurus at work.

Maybe Trump is overlooking his best idea to make America Great Again, The Apprentice Concept.

After the eighth grade kids should shadow an adult for 1 year. It could be an adult with bedpan duty or a surgeon, a HVAC helper or the librarian's assistant. And when they start high school they will not waste so much time. They would see the light at the end of the tunnel and know the clock is ticking.

You couldn't do that in our society. There would be all kinds of liabilities. That really requires an open mind and less government regulations.

But isn't that how children used to learn? And if you go in a lot of mom and pop shops it still goes on. Losing the mom and pop shops is the hurt that keeps on hurting.

It would end up being racist as nobody would want to mentor the black kids. After a while we'd learn, like we have in the education system, that they're not up to snuff. They can't compete with the others. Lincoln said it...we're too different to ever live together.

Facts aren't racist and neither is the speaking of facts. If I made stuff up, it would be one thing, I don't, it's all facts. Facts we should all be aware of.

Originally Posted by Guest

Teachers provide a service for compensation, do they not? Then what make them any more special than anyone else providing a service for compensation?

No different from the faceless person who delivers the daily sun.

Originally Posted by Guest

And WHY is that? Because education has been dumbed down so the dark minorities can "compete". We dropped from #1 in the world to #17 because of quotas, affirmative action, and dumbing down standards so they could get in. It's "racist" to have standards they can't attain. So we lowered them.

MOST jobs don't need a degree. It's required to weed out the minorities who even with all the free school and lowered standards, usually don't make it to graduation.



But I bet that's what he was thinking...and he should have.



It would end up being racist as nobody would want to mentor the black kids. After a while we'd learn, like we have in the education system, that they're not up to snuff. They can't compete with the others. Lincoln said it...we're too different to ever live together.

Facts aren't racist and neither is the speaking of facts. If I made stuff up, it would be one thing, I don't, it's all facts. Facts we should all be aware of.

Are you a self made man too? Are grateful to no one?

Originally Posted by Guest

I don't care what people call me...I drive a Prius.

I have never seen an attractive person driving a Prius. Toyota must have a rule to only sell that car to ugly people. When someone ugly walks in the showroom the sales people probably throw blankets over all the other cars and usher the ugly person over to the Prius chanting "you will reduce global warming, you will reduce global warming". Hillary is definitely ugly enough to drive one..

As for Obamma - he sucks!

Originally Posted by Guest

I have never seen an attractive person driving a Prius. Toyota must have a rule to only sell that car to ugly people. When someone ugly walks in the showroom the sales people probably throw blankets over all the other cars and usher the ugly person over to the Prius chanting "you will reduce global warming, you will reduce global warming". Hillary is definitely ugly enough to drive one..

As for Obamma - he sucks!

That's pretty funny!

Originally Posted by Guest

What about your teachers? Were you home schooled?

If one is "home schooled" what about those teachers?

The rules say to not attack another poster, yet it is done here,,,,,,,,,,,, calling someone a liar, liar??

As someone said, it was very well done, it is one thing that we elected such a loser, but the sad part is we have a huge electorate that does not know any better. Two of our good friends, several years ago, (moochers for sure) in a discussion, we tried very nicely to point out what they were inviting and they disowned us, yes, refused to talk to us, several years ago. Good Demos.

Originally Posted by Guest

The rules say to not attack another poster, yet it is done here,,,,,,,,,,,, calling someone a liar, liar??

It's not an attack if it's true.

Originally Posted by Guest

The rules say to not attack another poster, yet it is done here,,,,,,,,,,,, calling someone a liar, liar??

It would help if you used the "reply" button so that we would know who you are responding to. Did someone call you a "liar?" And, if so is it true or is that a lie and are you calling that person a liar for calling you one?

Originally Posted by Guest

It's not an attack if it's true.

Oh, but they'll say it is. It's "hateful" to call someone out on their lie.

Originally Posted by Guest

Oh, but they'll say it is. It's "hateful" to call someone out on their lie.

The "hate" word seems to be a popular fad of the left I don't believe I have used that word since I was a child. Of course, some folks just can't accept reality, therefore never mature.

Originally Posted by Guest

Technically...yes. Someone else did the labor for the "benefits" you received for "free".

You're SUPPOSED to "pay it forward" by being a good, productive citizen repaying it to society tenfold. That's the original intent of scholarships.

Where did you read the above ? On Snopes.com ?