Wait a minute...

*TAITZ* served the subpoena?

Can a citizen DO that in GA? A subpoena has to be served by, at the very least, a sheriff here in NH.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

and now there are all these stories about poor old people who will be disenfranchised because they don't have a picture ID!!! Why do the rest of us need a picture ID for anything and everything? I've have never been able to cast a vote without one!

It's what photo voter ID that is accepted that is the problem. Texas, for example, will not accept a student's college photo ID but they will accept a gun license photo ID.

I totally agree with the need for a photo ID to vote, but each state must contact every voter to make sure that voter has the proper ID, and, if not, must provide one free of charge. To do otherwise would reinstate the poll tax.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

and now there are all these stories about poor old people who will be disenfranchised because they don't have a picture ID!!! Why do the rest of us need a picture ID for anything and everything? I've have never been able to cast a vote without one!

I'm sorry but that disenfranchised excuse is just that.. an excuse! If someone is disenfranchised it's because they want to be disenfranchised. I dealt for years as an authority in the issuance of driver's licenses and photo ID's which was mostly managed by Democrats and liberal thinking people... and if someone what's an ID, they can get an ID. There are options for them from assistance from churches or social organization to proof of indegency from a court and other methods in between. As for your last sentence... thank God for that!

Originally Posted by janmcn

I have to take exception to two comments in your above post; first "voter fraud which is rampant". The Bush administration conducted a five year study and found no voter fraud.

Second "Voter ID laws do not suppress votes except for the fraudulent ones".
Personally, I am all in favor of voter ID as long as these ID's are made available to all voters free of charge. Recently it cost me $23.00 to get the documents (birth certificate/marriage license) just to renew my Florida driver's license. This is a lot of money to some people and without the use of a computer, it would be a daunting task to get said documents.

You can take exception if you want, but that doesn't come near convincing me that the fraud exists and more so on the left than on the right. I'm not gong into everything that has convinced me of this, but ask... How do so many deceased people vote? A whole lot of them do somehow. How do a whole lot of missing votes suddenly appear days after Republicans appear to be the winner of an election and that winds up turning the election around. Don't tell me it hasn't happened. It happened in one case when that Donkey Kong comedian Franken lost an election by 571 votes to Coleman in Minnesota only to be turned over well after the contest was decided when enough voted showed up in a recount to reverse the results. These few examples are most likely to be only the tip of the iceberg, so don't tell me that fraud isn't rampant, I'm not that gullible!

Getting a drivers license is expensive now a days. I've seen the prices rise over the years in the documents we issued in NY. I've also recently switch my drivers license from NY to FL when we moved down. However, people don't need pay for a drivers license to have ID for voting. States have been issuing photo ID card for years now and they're pretty inexpensive. As I said in my previous post, there are ways for the poor and elderly to get assistance if they're indigent or disabled. I'm disabled and have mobility problems and in my vast experience in that area I don't even come close to finding getting an ID a problem. If someone can't get an ID it's because they don't want to get and ID or they'r too lazy or don't want to bother being inconvenienced to take the steps the rest of us have to or had to. Even the poorest can get the money if that's the problem or even can get it waived under certain circumstances. And if someone can get to stores to shop, the bars to drink or party or the polls to vote, then they can get to wherever they need to get their ID. IMHO and with RARE exception, the disenfranchised myth is just a creation of liberals and progressives minds in our country, created for political reasons!

Skyguy...please let me tell you how happy I am to see you here in Political.


Welcome!

Originally Posted by buggyone

Richie, I wish we could discuss this in person but I will be at a concert at Savannah Center instead of the watering hole this week. Thanks for the kind words, I do appreciate them.

I'll see you when I see you. The family always comes first for me as well.

I'm sorry my frustration at not getting you to understand what my point was caused me to me "impolite". I took my disgust with others out on you and I'm sorry about that.

There's so much presidential butt kissing in this thread that I want to vomit. Even I didn't think the obsession with Obama was so strong that people would throw their sense of right and wrong out the window in support of all things Obama.

Do folks need an ID to collect food stamps? (or whatever they call them now).

Originally Posted by janmcn

I'm just guessing that the judge in Atlanta knows more about the law than RichieLion. I could be wrong. Why then did he, the judge, not hold the president in contempt of court and swear out a warrant for his immediate arrest?

The Judge would most likely issue a show cause summons first. The capias would follow. It would be worthless unless POTUS were extradited to Georgia on a Governor's Warrant or arrested in Georgia on, lets say, a traffic stop. Also, the Judge wouldn't be "swearing out" anything. He would simply issue.

Originally Posted by skyguy79

You can take exception if you want, but that doesn't come near convincing me that the fraud exists and more so on the left than on the right. I'm not gong into everything that has convinced me of this, but ask... How do so many deceased people vote? A whole lot of them do somehow. How do a whole lot of missing votes suddenly appear days after Republicans appear to be the winner of an election and that winds up turning the election around. Don't tell me it hasn't happened. It happened in one case when that Donkey Kong comedian Franken lost an election by 571 votes to Coleman in Minnesota only to be turned over well after the contest was decided when enough voted showed up in a recount to reverse the results. These few examples are most likely to be only the tip of the iceberg, so don't tell me that fraud isn't rampant, I'm not that gullible!

Getting a drivers license is expensive now a days. I've seen the prices rise over the years in the documents we issued in NY. I've also recently switch my drivers license from NY to FL when we moved down. However, people don't need pay for a drivers license to have ID for voting. States have been issuing photo ID card for years now and they're pretty inexpensive. As I said in my previous post, there are ways for the poor and elderly to get assistance if they're indigent or disabled. I'm disabled and have mobility problems and in my vast experience in that area I don't even come close to finding getting an ID a problem. If someone can't get an ID it's because they don't want to get and ID or they'r too lazy or don't want to bother being inconvenienced to take the steps the rest of us have to or had to. Even the poorest can get the money if that's the problem or even can get it waived under certain circumstances. And if someone can get to stores to shop, the bars to drink or party or the polls to vote, then they can get to wherever they need to get their ID. IMHO and with RARE exception, the disenfranchised myth is just a creation of liberals and progressives minds in our country, created for political reasons!

You say you have a disability, but you have a driver's license? That's probably a big help to you getting around. I don't understand your remark about the poll tax. Are you for it or against it?
One more thing: name calling is not allowed on this site. Respect must be shown, no matter how much we disagree on issues.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

The Judge would most likely issue a show cause summons first. The capias would follow. It would be worthless unless POTUS were extradited to Georgia on a Governor's Warrant or arrested in Georgia on, lets say, a traffic stop. Also, the Judge wouldn't be "swearing out" anything. He would simply issue.

Thank you for addressing Jan's question with some facts. (not that she'll accept them, believe me)

skyguy welcome but perhaps some facts to back up some of your claims.

and by the way my Taitz post was not meant to be silly,it is what happened.

Originally Posted by janmcn

You say you have a disability, but you have a driver's license? That's probably a big help to you getting around. I don't understand your remark about the poll tax. Are you for it or against it?
One more thing: name calling (?) is not allowed on this site. Respect must be shown, no matter how much we disagree on issues.

You're surprised that disabled people have drivers licenses? WOW! Questioning me the way you did sounds quite disrespectful to me and all handicapped as far as I'm concerned!

And who said anything about a "poll tax?" If you weren't making it up, please show me where I allegedly did!

Please specify where I allegedly said anything disrespectful that was personally directed to you or to any other TOTV'er on this forum because I'm not aware of my doing so and don't think I did. If I did I'd find it more creditable if it were pointed out by a neutral party. If it's proved to me that I did disrespect you, I will apologize even though I wouldn't realize that I had. If it's not proven I'll expect an apology from you or prepare myself for a racist accusation to come next if you don't apologize! I might even file a complaint with Admin because I fully resent being falsely accused of something I didn't do, especially when it appears to be done to belittle me, intimidate me or marginalize me! Don't fail to take me seriously!

Originally Posted by Posh 08

The Judge would most likely issue a show cause summons first. The capias would follow. It would be worthless unless POTUS were extradited to Georgia on a Governor's Warrant or arrested in Georgia on, lets say, a traffic stop. Also, the Judge wouldn't be "swearing out" anything. He would simply issue.

The expert has spoken. Now we just have to wait to hear on the news that President Obama has been extradited to Georgia to see if he's guilty of the charges RichieLion alleges.

Originally Posted by skyguy79

You're surprised that disabled people have drivers licenses? WOW! Questioning me the way you did sounds quite disrespectful to me and all handicapped as far as I'm concerned!

And who said anything about a "poll tax?" If you weren't making it up, please show me where I allegedly did!

Please specify where I allegedly said anything disrespectful that was personally directed to you or to any other TOTV'er on this forum because I'm not aware of my doing so and don't think I did. If I did I'd find it more creditable if it were pointed out by a neutral party. If it's proved to me that I did disrespect you, I will apologize even though I wouldn't realize that I had. If it's not proven I'll expect an apology from you or prepare myself for a racist accusation to come next if you don't apologize! I might even file a complaint with Admin because I fully resent being falsely accused of something I didn't do, especially when it appears to be done to belittle me, intimidate me or marginalize me! Don't fail to take me seriously!

I was referring to a name, which I won't repeat, that you called a sitting US Senator.

After I went back and read the post, I think I was confused by a reply you gave. Post #107 I said "To do otherwise would reinstate the poll tax". In post #108 you said "As for your last sentence...thank God for that". I realize now you were referring to a statement made by another poster and I apologize for the misunderstanding.