Oh sure, lets try to spend our way out of unemployment. It worked so good the last time. Just keep adding to our deficit. Lets keep adding to our great, great grandchildren's burden.

Forest Gump said it best STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Oh sure, lets try to spend our way out of unemployment. It worked so good the last time. Just keep adding to our deficit. Lets keep adding to our great, great grandchildren's burden.

Forest Gump said it best STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES.

Instead of bashing what s the solution? Why d folks in this forum assign blame to a recession? Factors are more complicated that who is in office.

I think they (the past administration and the current) vastly underestimated the depth of the recession. It is a global recession.
We didn't spend enough or was appropriated without stipulations. For example Perry and the Texas legislature used the funds that he didn't want to pay off the state debt. Wasn't he the one hemming and hawing about not taking the money, then changed his mind?

Business needs to invest in America. Middle class spending is the catalyst to growth. Growth is limited when folks live from paycheck to paycheck. If your children have a job ask them when they last had a raise. Wages are stagnant. Some things need to be done on a federal level like building dams, repairing infrastructure, national security, etc..

I prefer this quote :My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." Great movie, especially the music.

there is that standard village g response. Just bash the bad guy but present no solutions to the problems. Typical.

Originally Posted by waynet

there is that standard village g response. Just bash the bad guy but present no solutions to the problems. Typical.

Plenty of solutions. Lift the heavy restrictions of oil drilling. Lift the burdens of excessive taxes. Obama seems to hate business, why, he never had a real job in the private sector. He surrounds himself with Ivy League eggheads who nobody would hire but the government.

VG,you really don't like smart people do you? Is mediocrity your mantra?

Some of us still remember when the $750 billion stimulus program was supposed to keep unemployment below 7%...that was year one. Not only did it not work, unemployment rose and stayed there. And there are almost no accounts of where the money went and why did it not work.

A very good solution that continues to not ever make it to the table is to change the tax rates for corporations creating an incentive for them to invest in their facilities here in the USA. Reduce the taxes on profits to be expatriated back to the USA...make it zero. What is there to lose? Nothing because there is nothing being collected on those off shore earnings, being kept off shore to avoid the taxes. What is there to gain? Upwards to trillions of dollars bottled up in off shore investments that could be brought home to be invested in America.

Such an action would be pro big business which this president and administration have proven the are not.

And how about the hypocracy of having Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE who is chairman of a jobs committee reporting directly to Obama. His company paid ZERO taxes in 2010!!!!!!! He is relocating the headquarters and research and development of the medical imaging business to China. Yup classic of the kind of people that Obama surrounds himself with.

The solutions are many...but do not involve the government's heavy involvement. Why should they let the business experts of the country? The WH including Obama, the WH staff, both houses of congress is full to the brim with people who are not qualified to run a lemon aid stand. But they think they should run the country and business....what a joke.

Until such time as American companies return to investing in America, there will only be another bail out....another stimulus...Mark your calendars for one year from today and let's ask ourselves how is the new plan working.
Remember when we spent twice as much as is being proposed...unemployment went up. And it will again unless and until Obama turns pro business.

What happened from the original stimulus to the renewable energy effort?
Nothing. Obama here again is an impediment to one of the largest job growth opportunities in our life time, the end result of which will be hundreds of thousands of jobs created AND reduced dependence on foreign oil.
I say again...the solutions are easy. Now let's hear from the Obama supporter why they think their man is not pursuing the obvious solutions.....and continues to promote.....SPENDING as the answer to everything.
I anxiously await to be enlightened!!

btk

Originally Posted by mitchbr47

Instead of bashing what s the solution? Why d folks in this forum assign blame to a recession? Factors are more complicated that who is in office.

I think they (the past administration and the current) vastly underestimated the depth of the recession. It is a global recession.
We didn't spend enough or was appropriated without stipulations. For example Perry and the Texas legislature used the funds that he didn't want to pay off the state debt. Wasn't he the one hemming and hawing about not taking the money, then changed his mind?

Business needs to invest in America. Middle class spending is the catalyst to growth. Growth is limited when folks live from paycheck to paycheck. If your children have a job ask them when they last had a raise. Wages are stagnant. Some things need to be done on a federal level like building dams, repairing infrastructure, national security, etc..

I prefer this quote :My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." Great movie, especially the music.

I think if you look back at my post I pointed to a couple of problems with his speech that included what he "didn't say". Those are some of my suggested solutions that you claim were not presented.

Private business needs to be unleashed. The Free Market needs relief from onerous regulations. That will get the engine running again,

Originally Posted by waynet

VG,you really don't like smart people do you? Is mediocrity your mantra?

We need smart people who understand business and are less interested in social engineering. The latter is all he's got.

Originally Posted by waynet

VG,you really don't like smart people do you? Is mediocrity your mantra?

I love smart people, all my friends are smart. If you can settle for mediocrity then you must be proud of the regime in the White House.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Plenty of solutions. Lift the heavy restrictions of oil drilling. Lift the burdens of excessive taxes. Obama seems to hate business, why, he never had a real job in the private sector. He surrounds himself with Ivy League eggheads who nobody would hire but the government.

As RR would say, "There you go again."
I guess he would be too liberal by today's standards.
I think you are listening to Michelle Bachman sound bytes again. That is your perogative. However....
How about these Ivy League eggheads?
Notice how folks with an education are discredited?
•Shaun Donovan, Harvard, HUD-managing director Prudential Mortgage Capital
•Ken Salazar University of Michigan Interior Secretary-one of the first Hispanic senators, partner with family farm, owned a Dairy Queen
•Steven Chu, UC-Berkley Energy Secretary-headed research lab at AT&T Bell Laboratories, operated a radio station
•Hillary Clinton, Wellesley College, Yale Sec. of State- lawyer
•John Bryson, Stanford, Yale Commerce Secretary nominee-chairman CEO of Edison International
•Eric Holder, Columbia Attorney General-itigation partner at the law firm Covington & Burling
•Lack Lew, Office of Management and Budget-CEO of Citi Global Wealth Management and later Citi Alternative Investments
•Robert Gates, Indiana Univerity, Georgetown former Secretary of State, CIA for sure, president of Texas A&M....
The list goes on. 67% of his 22 cabinet members have private sector /business experience if the definition includes consulting or private legal practice.
Research the sound bytes.

For those who want fewer EPA restrictions I'm sure you can get a great price on property adjacent to the Yellowstone River in Montana.

Actually, I don’t think Obama even understands why his first stimulus program failed. There is no evidence that he has progressed beyond his mindless “spending equals stimulus” mantra. The man has not the most elementary grasp of economics. He is like a medieval doctor who continues to bleed a dying patient, convinced that he is applying the right remedy, and if he just draws a little more blood the patient will recover. Or, to transition to a different metaphor, he is like a dog who can whistle but only knows one tune; so, no matter what the occasion, the tune he knows is the one you will hear.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...re-leeches.php

Billethkid~ Whatever office you are running for, you've got my vote after reading your solution to bring business back home. It's a win-win.

Great speech...Lots of good REPUBLICAN ideas came to the forefront..Oh wait.Obama said it, that means it's no good now...Hi boys see you run this forum too...You certainly get around...

Originally Posted by hrp01

Great speech...Lots of good REPUBLICAN ideas came to the forefront..Oh wait.Obama said it, that means it's no good now...Hi boys see you run this forum too...You certainly get around...

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Originally Posted by hrp01

Great speech...Lots of good REPUBLICAN ideas came to the forefront..Oh wait.Obama said it, that means it's no good now...Hi boys see you run this forum too...You certainly get around...

I am really concerned about you. Honestly, there must be a help hotline that you can call and somebody will talk to you. We Villagers like to look out for each other. Are you a Villager?

Please, help is just a phone call away.