"Obamacare: Still a Threat to Your Life"

 
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:03 AM
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Peter Ferrara, director of entitlement and budget policy at the Institute for Policy Innovation. general counsel of the American Civil Rights Union and a Harvard College and Harvard Law School graduate yesterday published a breathtaking critique of the Obamacare Plan. It is timely and significant because it is the first detailed analysis of the latest version of health care. I debated on how to post it. Paraphrasing would not do it justice. It is too long to cut and paste and it really demands proper attribution. I opted for an uncharacteristic bullet posting of excerpts with the hope that the well thought out article will be read in its entirety. My apologies for bulleting most of the front end of the article and the annoying red highlights. Here goes:

"Let me reveal my personal stake in this health care debate. My life is at risk. So is yours, as well as the lives of our children, our parents, and everyone else in our families. For the thorough government takeover of health care in America the Democrats are feverishly pursuing, and the outdated socialized medicine policies from other countries they are so religiously committed to adopting, would trash the very ability of the system to provide the health care many of us are likely to need in coming years to extend our lives, and to maintain our basic quality of life."

"The decimation of our health care system under Obamacare begins with government mandates, regulations, bureaucracies, and controls. The House and Senate health care bills that President Obama and the Democrats refuse to take off the table create close to 100 new health care bureaucracies, boards, commissions and programs. This is the government takeover of health care."

"These new authorities arrogate to the government the
power to decide "what works" in health care, and what doesn't. The code words they use include "best practices" -- a government bureaucracy in Washington is going to decide what are the "best practices" in providing health care for you and your children, not you and your doctor.
Another code phrase is "reward doctors for quality not quantity." Government bureaucracies in Washington do not know how to do this. But they will make a huge mess out of your health care in trying to. "

"These government bureaucracies will also have the power to cut off your health care when they decide it is no longer worth the money. We have already seen a glimpse of this in the declaration by a bureaucracy, to be expanded with more powers under Obamacare, that women over 72 should not have mammograms. What they are saying here is that if you are over 72 and get breast cancer, they don't want to know about it. Just take the painkiller and go home, to paraphrase President Obama. They believe they can buy more votes taking the money for your care and spending it somewhere else. This is called "cost effectiveness."

"The destruction of the health care system is then expanded through the payment system. Among the code words here are "pay for performance" and "accountable care." This is how the bureaucracy will enforce its dictates concerning what works and what doesn't, best practices, cost effectiveness, and termination of health care no longer deemed worthy. Doctors and hospitals will be rewarded through payments if they follow the centralized bureaucracy's dictates; they will be penalized with reduced payments if they don't. You will never know what happened to you. The doctor is not going to tell you, "I could have saved your daughter's life with this new treatment, but that is not yet a best practice according to the government." "

"Health care obliteration then continues by constricting the payments overall to doctors, hospitals, specialists, surgeons, health care innovators, and other health providers. This is where the $500 billion in Medicare cuts come in, which is $800 billion in the first 10 years of full implementation under Obamacare. Seniors will soon find out that constricted payments mean constricted services, because President Obama has already begun cutting payments under Medicare, particularly for cancer and heart specialists, treatments, and diagnostics. But this is just part of the constricted payments to the entire health system under Obamacare, which is how President Obama thinks he will bring the cost curve down. The sad truth is that the only cost control in Obamacare involves health care rationing, which means denying you health care. Those union orchestrated sad sacks marching in the streets chanting for "health care" are suckers"

"But none of the supporters of Obamacare -- the bloggers, the talk show hosts, the literal clowns like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Wanda Sykes that now get media coverage to lecture us on public policy -- understand any of this. They have their heads firmly and deeply stuck in the sand, and insist it is all made up. And as for Democrat members of Congress, they don't have a clue
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The balance of the article, a very informative read, addresses:

Why Your Country Is At Risk.

Procedural Falsehoods about the Reconciliation Process

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/0...a-threat-to-yo

I await the liberal rebuttal to frightening concerns raised by the author.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:59 AM
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Cabo 35 for an informative post.


I know this is not very scientific, but propaganda never really is. Last night I watched a television show called Law and Order Special Victims. The last few years this has been one of the very few quality drama shows that we have found. As some of you know it is produced by NBC which most people know, has a left-leaning agenda.
Last night's show was about a pre-mature birth of a baby that had many physical problems. To make a long story short they were shouting to the audience that it was going to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep a baby alive that will need medical $$$ attention the rest of it's life.

The show ended with the doctor asking the cop(they made the legal guardian) if they should perform life-saving brain surgery on the 4 month premature baby. The camera stayed on the cop's face until the show ended without a decision.

What am I leading up to? Are they putting these things in our subconscious so gradually we will not be shocked in the future? Will we go down the slippery slope? Will we be shocked one day but take it for granted the next day?
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Old 03-04-2010, 11:28 AM
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Default Anybody who does not believe they will lose medicare coverage

with as a result of the new health care reform is not lucid!!!!!
Anybody who does not think the cost of what you currently know and love will increase in price....just to maintain the coverage you like.
Anybody who thinks the government is really going to carve out $500 billion from medicare inefficiencies and abuse is as stated above....not lucid.

Anybody who thinks Obama and his 10% approval rating (or 90% dis-approval rating) congress are being responsive to the wants of we the people on the subject of health care reform.

Let us be sure to keep the current momentum going into the fall months and re-elect no one in 2010 and certainly not in 2012.

Take our country back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 03-04-2010, 11:29 AM
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Prior to moving to The Villages my medical career experienced 3 quite different practice models. The first 9 years was military medicine in the US Army. The next 17 years was as a salaried physician in one of the most reputable and cited health care systems in the nation--The Geisinger Health System in Pa. My last 5 years in Pa were in solo private fee for service practice.

Geisinger rocketed to national recognition in the past 15 years using practice and quality standards cited above: "BEST PRACTICES" is an example-- what this means is that experts review the published medical literature and develop practice and disease management guidelines that have ben shown to produce the best outcomes. ... like making sure all diabetic pts have annual eye exams, foot checks, Hgb A1C measures etc. Geisinger rewarded physicians who adhered to best practice guidelines. Likewise, there was an incentive for "QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY"
So much so that, for example, surgical procedures came with a 'guarantee' and if the pt needed a re-admission or there was a complication the hospital covered the extra costs.

So, these are proven improvements in health care delivery.

Here's the problem---> "THE GOVERNMENT" had zero, nada, nothing to do with ANY of this!!! This was FREE MARKET DRIVEN. When many health systems were financially collapsing, Geisinger was becoming more and more succesful.

The Fed gov't has NO role in this. My belief is the Feds intrusion in health CARE policy is not outlined anywhere in our constitution and likely will face serious legal challenges as this unfolds.

The states need to address the health INSURANCE issues.... no question there.

Every citizen needs to be VERY VERY concerned at the thought of the Fed govt dictating health CARE policy.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:57 PM
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Prior to moving to The Villages my medical career experienced 3 quite different practice models. The first 9 years was military medicine in the US Army. The next 17 years was as a salaried physician in one of the most reputable and cited health care systems in the nation--The Geisinger Health System in Pa. My last 5 years in Pa were in solo private fee for service practice.

Geisinger rocketed to national recognition in the past 15 years using practice and quality standards cited above: "BEST PRACTICES" is an example-- what this means is that experts review the published medical literature and develop practice and disease management guidelines that have ben shown to produce the best outcomes. ... like making sure all diabetic pts have annual eye exams, foot checks, Hgb A1C measures etc. Geisinger rewarded physicians who adhered to best practice guidelines. Likewise, there was an incentive for "QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY"
So much so that, for example, surgical procedures came with a 'guarantee' and if the pt needed a re-admission or there was a complication the hospital covered the extra costs.

So, these are proven improvements in health care delivery.

Here's the problem---> "THE GOVERNMENT" had zero, nada, nothing to do with ANY of this!!! This was FREE MARKET DRIVEN. When many health systems were financially collapsing, Geisinger was becoming more and more succesful.

The Fed gov't has NO role in this. My belief is the Feds intrusion in health CARE policy is not outlined anywhere in our constitution and likely will face serious legal challenges as this unfolds.

The states need to address the health INSURANCE issues.... no question there.

Every citizen needs to be VERY VERY concerned at the thought of the Fed govt dictating health CARE policy.
No one can dispute what you said. Most Doctors, i believe agree with you.

Where did Obama get the white coated men yesterday.? Do you think they were really Doctors?
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No one can dispute what you said. Most Doctors, i believe agree with you.

Where did Obama get the white coated men yesterday.? Do you think they were really Doctors?
I believe they use them "doctors" as props. Months ago when they had a bunch of doctors there at the white house, they handed out the white coats and asked them to wear them for the photographers.
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Donna2---- I use to watch all the Law and Order shows. About three years ago I got so fed up with the liberal bias that I quit, cold turkey. It seemed like every show had a liberal message, not to mention the snarky comments about Bush. Why can't they just have a show for entertainment?
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Donna2---- I use to watch all the Law and Order shows. About three years ago I got so fed up with the liberal bias that I quit, cold turkey. It seemed like every show had a liberal message, not to mention the snarky comments about Bush. Why can't they just have a show for entertainment?
Sally Jo,

I hear you. The SVU (Special Victims Unit) was not as bad as the rest of them, but NBC is turning that into crap, too.
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I still await the liberal rebuttal to frightening concerns raised by the author.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:51 AM
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Default Cabo35 you know from experience that is not going to happen.

I think it is overwhelmingly ironic the consistency here, other forums and in live discussions there is NEVER a EVER a contribution from a liberal supporter for any issue EVER requested.

Unless the post has something to do with Palin or Beck or Bush. I guess those words are in the liberal play book and easy to look up.

There is always hope, but I wouldn't count on ANY contribution. It is so very Washington, DC to not address issues/questions!!!

btk
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I think it is overwhelmingly ironic the consistency here, other forums and in live discussions there is NEVER a EVER a contribution from a liberal supporter for any issue EVER requested.

Unless the post has something to do with Palin or Beck or Bush. I guess those words are in the liberal play book and easy to look up.

There is always hope, but I wouldn't count on ANY contribution. It is so very Washington, DC to not address issues/questions!!!

btk

Right on post BTK ! IF you start a thread on Palin, that will insure all kinds of posts and look-ins......it becomes a must see. Start a thread on what is happening in WASH and you will be lucky to get a response.

I recall Bush being "taken to the woodshed" because of "snooping" on the internet...now with the INCREASE in such snooping..not a word. I recall EVEN IN THE LAST CAMPAIGN, on this board references to Bush's drinking as a young man......we now have a President who in his first physical was told to CUT THE DRINKING AND STOP SMOKING and that is acceptable behavior.

I was never entrenched as a conservative but the liberal actions in the last two years (including the campaign where they just flat out ignored all the sirens and whistles on Obama) is doing just that.
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Well, we did flush one out with the Victoria Jackson video.
 


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