Originally Posted by djplong

Martha Coakley had her own problems. Believe me, I had a front row seat to the campaign every morning on the local news.

But to the other point you made - about the 'majority of Americans'.

Yes, technically that's true. But that is SO skewed.

In general, seniors on Medicare are happy.

In general, people who haven't gone through medical bankruptcy are happy.

People who weren't kicked off their plans when they got cancer or leukemia are happy.

So yes, the majority of people that the insurance companies hadn't gotten around to screwing are happy.

Those are scathing words. Ninteen out of 20 people I ask is very happy with their insurance. But the trend in the USA is to have the tiny minority rule the rest of us.
Fact:
Most people want the borders secured
Most people favor the Arizona law that was just signed by their Governor
Most people like their present insurance
Most people favor the second amendment
Most people abhor abortion
Most people want smaller government
Most people do not want this supreme court nomination confirmed
Most people think the USA is exceptional

Most people don't like Obama bowing to other countries
Most people think that our present leaders in congress and the white house are doing a terrible job.

What do you not understand about the word MOST?

Originally Posted by cologal

Iraq has reconstituted its nuclear program, Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction and Iraq attempted to purchase Yellow Cake from *****. All from the State of the Union address in the run up to the war. You don't remember that?

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor...7/22_lies.html

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~richard/reflect/lies.html

There ya go.....

If you believe that Bush lied, which he did not, then you also believe that Kerry,Clinton,the entire Congress and Senate also lied.

Man when are you Liberals going to make some sense on this issue. You are getting very boring on this issue.

Originally Posted by cologal

That is simply not true....the Yellow Cake in ***** statement had been taken out of at least one earlier speech because it was false. Then they added it to the State of the Union.

He lied..these statement were false then and are false now. End of story.

The name of this thread is Obama's Shocking Lies.

Please talk about Obama's lies.

Please stop hijacking this thread by talking about previous presidents.

Thank-you

Originally Posted by cashman

If you believe that Bush lied, which he did not, then you also believe that Kerry,Clinton,the entire Congress and Senate also lied.

Man when are you Liberals going to make some sense on this issue. You are getting very boring on this issue.

You asked for proof that Bush lied and if you had followed the links there were other lies noted.

I provided the proof. He lied. End of story we will never forget.

Originally Posted by Donna2

The name of this thread is Obama's Shocking Lies.

Please talk about Obama's lies.

Please stop hijacking this thread by talking about previous presidents.

Thank-you

Can't handle the truth?

Originally Posted by cologal

Can't handle the truth?

Start your very own thread.
Why don't you start a "Blame Bush" thread? We can rehash all the lies that the media perpetrated for 8 years?

Originally Posted by cologal

Donna....I am not blaming Bush in this thread I was asked to provide proof of any Bush lies and I did.

You are wrong. Read post # 8. You brought Bush up and nobody asked you to. Please stop hijacking people's threads.

Cologal calling Bush a liar is not different from blaming him.

By the way have you read the long list of Obama lies, There are too many to list here?

Are you happy that Obama wants the USA to be a broke Socialist Country?

Originally Posted by cashman

Cologal calling Bush a liar is not different from blaming him.

By the way have you read the long list of Obama lies, There are too many to list here?

Are you happy that Obama wants the USA to be a broke Socialist Country?

I believe the overspending did not start last year and clearly I don't believe that Obama is a Socialist or wants a Socialist country. Until the current healthcare bill the last socialist entitlement package was the Prescription Drug benefit for Seniors under Medicare. Did you cry out about that? Where was the Tea Party then?

Originally Posted by cologal

I believe the overspending did not start last year and clearly I don't believe that Obama is a Socialist or wants a Socialist country. Until the current healthcare bill the last socialist entitlement package was the Prescription Drug benefit for Seniors under Medicare. Did you cry out about that? Where was the Tea Party then?

1. The Tea Party movement did not even exist at the time you call for their cries !

2. Why are all of your posts about the last administration and always in defense of this President and always criticizing the last. Why have you not posted in the thread about waterboarding versus the drones..you surely had a lot to say earlier about waterboarding and can only assume the killing with drones is ok because it is being done by a Democratic administration. Why are you not complaining about all the policies of Bush that have been maintained by Obama in regards to terrorists ? You surely were outspoken earlier about them.

Why are you not complaining about the lack of any addressing of health care costs by this administration ? You talked about that quite a bit and they have done NOTHING to address the costs.

Why are you not complaining about the piling on the deficit by this administration ? You surely complained about what the Bush years added to them but are SILENT on what is happening now...why ?

Why are you not complaining about the total lack of transparency in this administration...they make the Bush administration look like an open book. WHy ?

Why do you not complain about this President not taking questions as other presidents have ? WHY ?

Why do you overlook the open lies this man has told....the CSPAN thing is the easiest to bring up but there are so many others....no pork....posting bills on the net...working for bipartisanship....and the list is huge in ONE YEAR...WHY ?

Why are all these things now ok for you...Why do you not post about them ?

Originally Posted by Bucco

1. The Tea Party movement did not even exist at the time you call for their cries !

2. Why are all of your posts about the last administration and always in defense of this President and always criticizing the last. Why have you not posted in the thread about waterboarding versus the drones..you surely had a lot to say earlier about waterboarding and can only assume the killing with drones is ok because it is being done by a Democratic administration. Why are you not complaining about all the policies of Bush that have been maintained by Obama in regards to terrorists ? You surely were outspoken earlier about them.

Why are you not complaining about the lack of any addressing of health care costs by this administration ? You talked about that quite a bit and they have done NOTHING to address the costs.



Why are you not complaining about the piling on the deficit by this administration ? You surely complained about what the Bush years added to them but are SILENT on what is happening now...why ?

Why are you not complaining about the total lack of transparency in this administration...they make the Bush administration look like an open book. WHy ?

Why do you not complain about this President not taking questions as other presidents have ? WHY ?

Why do you overlook the open lies this man has told....the CSPAN thing is the easiest to bring up but there are so many others....no pork....posting bills on the net...working for bipartisanship....and the list is huge in ONE YEAR...WHY ?

Why are all these things now ok for you...Why do you not post about them ?

1. The only time you all complain about a politician's lies.. is when a D is behind their name. Al Gore, Bill Clinton for example

2. Waterboarding is torture....haven't changed on that. But I don't get the reference to drone usage. We signed a treaty not to torture prisoners are we using drones on prisoners of war?

3. You must be kidding about the lack of transparancy....that is just a joke.

4. Has Obama issued ear marks? Cause thats where the pork is.

5. I have posted about the deficit....I think that TARP was a bad idea and the stimulus package was good. I clearly favor helping the middle class over business, you come down on the other side.

6. I used to like press conferences especially when Kennedy was in office after that not so much. Should Obama have a press conference historically most presidents do. Are my shorts in a twist about it nope but then again I never complained about the lack of Bush Press Conferences.

7. It is hard to do the bi partisanship thing with the party of hell no!

8. And thank you for making my point...yes no one on the Repub side said anything when they were running up the deficits...now we have the Tea Party. Why didn't these people complain about the socialist entitlement expansion under Bush? Maybe because many of the Tea Party people benefited.

Originally Posted by cologal

1. The only time you all complain about a politician's lies.. is when a D is behind their name. Al Gore, Bill Clinton for example

2. Waterboarding is torture....haven't changed on that. But I don't get the reference to drone usage. We signed a treaty not to torture prisoners are we using drones on prisoners of war?

3. You must be kidding about the lack of transparancy....that is just a joke.

4. Has Obama issued ear marks? Cause thats where the pork is.

5. I have posted about the deficit....I think that TARP was a bad idea and the stimulus package was good. I clearly favor helping the middle class over business, you come down on the other side.

6. I used to like press conferences especially when Kennedy was in office after that not so much. Should Obama have a press conference historically most presidents do. Are my shorts in a twist about it nope but then again I never complained about the lack of Bush Press Conferences.

7. It is hard to do the bi partisanship thing with the party of hell no!

8. And thank you for making my point...yes no one on the Repub side said anything when they were running up the deficits...now we have the Tea Party. Why didn't these people complain about the socialist entitlement expansion under Bush? Maybe because many of the Tea Party people benefited.

You make my point...thank you !

You have no idea of what is happening other than what you are told...just a few examples because I have a busy day ahead of myself...

The President promised many times that he would not SIGN a bill with pork in it...has he...yep

Transparency is more missing with this administration than any other...that, according to even left wing papers such as the NY TIMES. They will destroy you from the WH if you cross them.

You found the waterboarding of THREE people terrible but are silent on killing and maimimg totally innocent folks with drones.


Now to set the record straight once again on me anyway. I am NOT a party man....I have been anti Obama from the start (still am..even stronger)..this political forum did not exist (for me anyway) until the campaign thus you see only my comments since then and not how I felt (feel) about previous administrations. I was, am one of the biggest critics of the financial handling of the last administration among other things.

YOU, on the other hand are one of the sad party first country second folks and it just seems to come naturally to you !


PS.....The stimulus bill that you support so much was about 60-70% pork and signed by the President. If you read anything NON PARTISAN on this bill you find that my percentages might be low. This was, as you know, the bill not read by anyone before passing.

Originally Posted by Bucco

You make my point...thank you !

You have no idea of what is happening other than what you are told...just a few examples because I have a busy day ahead of myself...

The President promised many times that he would not SIGN a bill with pork in it...has he...yep

Transparency is more missing with this administration than any other...that, according to even left wing papers such as the NY TIMES. They will destroy you from the WH if you cross them.

You found the waterboarding of THREE people terrible but are silent on killing and maimimg totally innocent folks with drones.


Now to set the record straight once again on me anyway. I am NOT a party man....I have been anti Obama from the start (still am..even stronger)..this political forum did not exist (for me anyway) until the campaign thus you see only my comments since then and not how I felt (feel) about previous administrations. I was, am one of the biggest critics of the financial handling of the last administration among other things.

YOU, on the other hand are one of the sad party first country second folks and it just seems to come naturally to you !


PS.....The stimulus bill that you support so much was about 60-70% pork and signed by the President. If you read anything NON PARTISAN on this bill you find that my percentages might be low. This was, as you know, the bill not read by anyone before passing.

This tatic is called deflection....

You found the waterboarding of THREE people terrible but are silent on killing and maimimg totally innocent folks with drones.


I was out protesting this war from the beginning.....

And I am clearly over your personal attacks. That is always your hole shot.