...What FIGMO said!

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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

I don't know about you, but I worked hard for what I have, both my wife and I did. Why would I want to share with someone who has done nothing but keep their hand out for handouts. Work and eat or don't work and don't eat, your choice. I am getting tried of the continual government handouts to the unions and those that are to lazy to work.

Time for a regime change in Foggy Bottom. Time to elect those that will work for the good of America and not for the good of their re-election.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

I don't know about you, but I worked hard for what I have, both my wife and I did. Why would I want to share with someone who has done nothing but keep their hand out for handouts. Work and eat or don't work and don't eat, your choice. I am getting tried of the continual government handouts to the unions and those that are to lazy to work.

Time for a regime change in Foggy Bottom. Time to elect those that will work for the good of America and not for the good of their re-election.

Man, you said it brother. My wife and I started from scratch (second marriage for both of us) while we were in our early 30's. Small apartment. I worked nights to put here through college. She worked nights and weekends as a waitress. It took 5 years of 60 hour work-weeks before we could save enough for starter home.
No sympathy for free loaders. Plenty of entry level jobs. Look at the Apple founder. No college and started business in family garage. He created thousands of jobs and made live better for millions. This is a great country.
We need to restore the spirit of free enterprise and get those bums out of Washington.

Bloomberg: Protestors trying to destroy city's jobs

"(Reuters) - New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg accused anti-Wall Street protesters on Friday of trying to destroy jobs in the city, even as he said he was sympathetic to some of their complaints.......

"What they're trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city," Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show, adding that the protests "aren't productive" and weren't good for tourism.

"If the jobs they are trying to get rid of in this city -- the people that work in finance, which is a big part of our economy -- go away, we're not going to have any money to pay our municipal employees or clean our parks or anything else."..........

Wall Street is the pillar of the New York state economy, making up 13 percent of tax contributions.

"The protests that are trying to destroy the jobs of working people in this city aren't productive," Bloomberg said. "At the same time I'm sympathetic to some of their complaints." "There are some people with legitimate complaints."

The protesters are angry about the 2008 Wall Street bailout that critics say let banks enjoy huge profits while average Americans suffered high unemployment and job insecurity......

Bloomberg's comments came a day after President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden acknowledged the frustration and anger of the protesters.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has also said he understood the anger being felt by the protesters but had to balance that with the economic importance of Wall Street to the state."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...rpc=22&sp=true

If they are so angry at the 2008 Wall Street Bailout, why don't they protest their PALS, the Democrat Congress that approved it for their pals like Clinton's former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, head of Citibank????

"Former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin has served on the Citi board for a decade. For much of that time he was chairman of the executive committee, collecting tens of millions to massage the Beltway crowd, though apparently not for asking tough questions about risk management.

The writers at the Deal Journal blog remind us of one particularly egregious massaging, when Mr. Rubin tried to use political muscle to prop up Enron, a valued Citi client. Mr. Rubin asked a Treasury official to lean on credit-rating agencies to maintain a more positive rating than Enron deserved. What signal will President-elect Barack Obama send if his Administration, populated with Mr. Rubin's protégés, allows this uberfixer to continue flying hither and yon on the corporate jet while taxpayers foot the bill?"
Cit's Taxpayer Parachute - WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122757194671054783.html

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Man, you said it brother. My wife and I started from scratch (second marriage for both of us) while we were in our early 30's. Small apartment. I worked nights to put here through college. She worked nights and weekends as a waitress. It took 5 years of 60 hour work-weeks before we could save enough for starter home.
No sympathy for free loaders. Plenty of entry level jobs. Look at the Apple founder. No college and started business in family garage. He created thousands of jobs and made live better for millions. This is a great country.
We need to restore the spirit of free enterprise and get those bums out of Washington.

Ibid.
Somehow, Aesop's the "Ant and the grasshopper" comes to mind. Nobody gave it to me, I did it the hard way, I EARNED IT!!!!!!

First wife might have been a democrat.

Let's see liberals and the liberal media wait with baited breath to jump onto anything they remotely can steer toward acts of racism or homophobic allegations but praise Wall Street protesters who demonize bankers and brokers. This is a dangerous game. being played by Obama who is maintaining an arms length distance or lease the appearance thereof.

Watch the liberals try to equate these protesters with the Tea Party movement.

The biggest difference is that the Tea Party is about restoring America to its greatness while these protesters are playing class warfare.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

So your saying we should be a socialist society? If that was truly the case then we would not have The Villages. A socialist society would deem us too rich to live in such a place. They would raze this place and build huts for all the people to live.

Why do you persist in this socialist BS? And I have to laugh because The Villages is, in some parts, a socialist society.

Have you stopped screaming yet?

We all pay the monthly fees which allow us to access the rec centers, executive golf courses and swimming pools. We all pay the same based on the size of the house but not based on the amount of time spent in The Villages. So as snowbird I help to pay for these services even though for 5 months I have absolutely no access. This keeps the fees low for the entire group.....

You, would have to assume, take Social Security and Medicare as well as the new Medicare Drug plan. All of these are socialist programs. Now you are going to come back at me a say "I paid all of my life into these plans" Nope you didn't....not the drug plan. So if you are using the Medicare drug plan then you are accessing a socialist plan.

Would you rather pay full price for your drugs?

Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

Sounds more like greed the way you explain it. i.e. If you have lots of money to start with, you can take advantage of some poor souls that are desperate to sell and and other poor souls that are desperate for work at any wage.

It sure wasn't a socialist who built this beautiful place. For the record, I take no drugs except an inexpensive statin for cholesterol control.
This country has been heading toward socialism for years, especially Johnson's failed war on poverty. When you take taxpayer's money and give it away to layabouts and unionized thieves, you get countries going bankrupt, which is all over the globe.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

I would agree....but that doesn't diminish the socialist aspects of The Villages.

Good for you....I am just trying to pay off my mortgages so I can retire and use all the Socialist programs available to me.....

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

It sure wasn't a socialist who built this beautiful place. For the record, I take no drugs except an inexpensive statin for cholesterol control.
This country has been heading toward socialism for years, especially Johnson's failed war on poverty. When you take taxpayer's money and give it away to layabouts and unionized thieves, you get countries going bankrupt, which is all over the globe.

The point is did you get them through the Medicare Drug plan?

Proably so.

Originally Posted by cologal

The point is did you get them through the Medicare Drug plan?

Proably so.

No, I get them at WalMart, a good capitalist retail.