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Old 12-15-2016, 03:14 PM
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When you nail it...you really nail it!
I think he was talking about you CNM...........

Hey...........pull my finger..............
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I think he was talking about you CNM...........

Hey...........pull my finger..............
No wonder you love Chump so much...you adolescents tend to stick together.
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No wonder you love Chump so much...you adolescents tend to stick together.
Well, we do have to talk down to your level so that we won't lose you. When is the last time you discussed a thread? Feel free to disagree, using your opinion or facts to back up your statement. This is a discussion forum.
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Well, we do have to talk down to your level so that we won't lose you.
You are incapable of 'discussing' an issue, as all you can do is give your ignorant opinion...with nothing to back it up.


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When is the last time you discussed a thread? Feel free to disagree, using your opinion or facts to back up your statement. This is a discussion forum.
Here's but one of the latest times I have used factual links to back up my statements.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...07-post37.html

Whereas I can't recall YOU ever doing anything, but spewing one or two short incoherent sentences...screeching your childish gibberish.

Maybe you used some off the wall source once a long time ago, but as the person who acts like a childish adolescent in almost every post...you really should learn to keep your mouth shut.

It will keep the massive egg off of your face that way.
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You are incapable of 'discussing' an issue, as all you can do is give your ignorant opinion...with nothing to back it up.




Here's but one of the latest times I have used factual links to back up my statements.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...07-post37.html

Whereas I can't recall YOU ever doing anything, but spewing one or two short incoherent sentences...screeching your childish gibberish.

Maybe you used some off the wall source once a long time ago, but as the person who acts like a childish adolescent in almost every post...you really should learn to keep your mouth shut.

It will keep the massive egg off of your face that way.
Don't you just hate it when you get some of that sh*t dished back at you? You wasted everyone's time with your "i'm in yor head, living for free" and now that you are getting it back, you cry like a little sissy.

I stand by my comment that you spend more time dissing others than discussing issues coherently. But, you do know how to use your cute little emoticons. Did you learn that from your grand children?

Pull my finger................
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:34 AM
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SS is "out of money" because they stole it. Have them replace the $trillions they took and it will be fine. Problem is...they don't have the means to replace what they stole.
YOUR view that THEY need to replace the money they stole.
Is that they THEY is the AMERICAN people and that INCLUDES US.

WE have been deliberately mis-led.

We have been told that OBAMA has added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt. We hear this number over and over again and we are led to believe we understand it.
Gerbals, HITLER'S propaganda minister called this the big lie. TEN TRILLION DOLLARS is several freight trains full of hundred dollar bills.
WHAT DID OBAMA SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON??????
TRUTH BE TOLD I'VE LOOKED IT UP AND THERE ARE NO ANSWERS-I BET MANY OF YOU DID NOT EVEN THINK TO ASK. We have not built new roads, parks, beaches, railroads, dams, improved our schools etc etc etc.

We have also been told by our LIBERAL PRESS that China is our biggest creditor. THE FACT IS, we owe slightly more to Japan then to China but together Japan and China TOGETHER hold about 20% of our national debt.

THE RUDE SHOCK IS that Social Security holds 42% of our national debt. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT OR LEFT MIND would lend money to a debtor that tells the lender if they will ever pay you back and what rate of interest they will pay.

Our government fuels us fighting each other. An old adage-
if you keep your people fighting among themselves THEY WILL NOT SEE THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Trump hit it on the head with his line DRAIN THE SWAMP-can he?
Aside-when you drain the swamp you see all the muck on the bottom AND IT STINKS.
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Hey, we are saved! I just got a four dollar increase in my SS. Enough to eat at Steak and Shake if I drink water with my meal. And I can get the Triple Steak burger with fries.
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:22 PM
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Although I agree with much of what you wrote I don't believe the "tax the rich" is a ploy. I think it is long over due. For two long now republicans have been trying to sell the "trickle down" BS. How did that work with Bush? It's now time to balance things out a bit.
It's not fear mongering at all. I see it as educating the public. The republicans will make a quick a furious push to pass legislation that will benefit the wealthy of this country. Without information provided by this article the middle class of this country won't be prepared to push back and it will be too late.
FIRST OF ALL when we speak and think of taxes what we are discussing is the INCOME TAX probably the most obvious and therefore hated tax. Simply stated, look on your cell phone bill roughly about 1/3 of you bill is TAXES.
When, you fill your car, they have chosen not to show it but 1/3 of what you pay is tax. I recall reading somewhere that less than 20% of the taxes our government collects is from the hated income tax.

re: Should the HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS shouting back what the party wants you to think ever INVESTIGATE what they are being fed they would find that if we did not raise the tax on the top 1% to whatever level would satisfy you BUT simply take everything they have IT WOULD NOT PAY THE TEN TRILLION THAT OBAMA, WHO YOU CERTAINLY VOTED FOR, has added to the national debt. Mexico welcomes our RICH FOLKS and they will send back as many of their POOR as you wish.

The feisty mayor of NYC, ED KOCH said publicly when there was a movement of people demanding that the city take over con ed, then and now one of the most expensive electric suppliers in the US. Koch directly said if you think things are bad now they will be far worse if it is government running it-

THERE IS NO MORE EXPENSIVE WAY TO DO ANYTHING THAN TO HAVE GOVERNMENT DO IT.

RE: How did that work under BUSH.
If, you are talking about the housing bubble, YOU WILL BE SHOCKED TO FIND THAT THE BILL THAT CREATED THE HOUSING BUBBLE WAS PAST UNDER BILL CLINTON.
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FIRST OF ALL when we speak and think of taxes what we are discussing is the INCOME TAX probably the most obvious and therefore hated tax. Simply stated, look on your cell phone bill roughly about 1/3 of you bill is TAXES.
When, you fill your car, they have chosen not to show it but 1/3 of what you pay is tax. I recall reading somewhere that less than 20% of the taxes our government collects is from the hated income tax.

re: Should the HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS shouting back what the party wants you to think ever INVESTIGATE what they are being fed they would find that if we did not raise the tax on the top 1% to whatever level would satisfy you BUT simply take everything they have IT WOULD NOT PAY THE TEN TRILLION THAT OBAMA, WHO YOU CERTAINLY VOTED FOR, has added to the national debt. Mexico welcomes our RICH FOLKS and they will send back as many of their POOR as you wish.

The feisty mayor of NYC, ED KOCH said publicly when there was a movement of people demanding that the city take over con ed, then and now one of the most expensive electric suppliers in the US. Koch directly said if you think things are bad now they will be far worse if it is government running it-

THERE IS NO MORE EXPENSIVE WAY TO DO ANYTHING THAN TO HAVE GOVERNMENT DO IT.

RE: How did that work under BUSH.
If, you are talking about the housing bubble, YOU WILL BE SHOCKED TO FIND THAT THE BILL THAT CREATED THE HOUSING BUBBLE WAS PAST UNDER BILL CLINTON.
but still stating the obvious. The left cannot accept the obvious, even when it slaps them in the face. They always have a way of rationalizing their errors.
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:27 AM
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YOUR view that THEY need to replace the money they stole.
Is that they THEY is the AMERICAN people and that INCLUDES US.

WE have been deliberately mis-led.

We have been told that OBAMA has added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt. We hear this number over and over again and we are led to believe we understand it.
Gerbals, HITLER'S propaganda minister called this the big lie. TEN TRILLION DOLLARS is several freight trains full of hundred dollar bills.
WHAT DID OBAMA SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON??????
TRUTH BE TOLD I'VE LOOKED IT UP AND THERE ARE NO ANSWERS-I BET MANY OF YOU DID NOT EVEN THINK TO ASK. We have not built new roads, parks, beaches, railroads, dams, improved our schools etc etc etc.


We have also been told by our LIBERAL PRESS that China is our biggest creditor. THE FACT IS, we owe slightly more to Japan then to China but together Japan and China TOGETHER hold about 20% of our national debt.

THE RUDE SHOCK IS that Social Security holds 42% of our national debt. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT OR LEFT MIND would lend money to a debtor that tells the lender if they will ever pay you back and what rate of interest they will pay.

Our government fuels us fighting each other. An old adage-
if you keep your people fighting among themselves THEY WILL NOT SEE THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Trump hit it on the head with his line DRAIN THE SWAMP-can he?
Aside-when you drain the swamp you see all the muck on the bottom AND IT STINKS.
Yes we have...we're mislead all the time.

They gave it away to poor brown people...a $trillion a year goes to welfare for mostly brown people.

China is dumping US treasuries. Japan, while bankrupt like we are, keeps "buying" more. The FACT is...we're our OWN biggest creditor. Yes, we borrow from ourselves.

The Fed is the biggest holder of debt "outside" the government itself. Look how much debt SS holds...it IS huge. It's unsustainable. We're bankrupt but the bank is STILL lending us money so we can pretend we're not.

Trump IS part of the swamp...if not, he won't be president.

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FIRST OF ALL when we speak and think of taxes what we are discussing is the INCOME TAX probably the most obvious and therefore hated tax. Simply stated, look on your cell phone bill roughly about 1/3 of you bill is TAXES.
When, you fill your car, they have chosen not to show it but 1/3 of what you pay is tax. I recall reading somewhere that less than 20% of the taxes our government collects is from the hated income tax.

re: Should the HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS shouting back what the party wants you to think ever INVESTIGATE what they are being fed they would find that if we did not raise the tax on the top 1% to whatever level would satisfy you BUT simply take everything they have IT WOULD NOT PAY THE TEN TRILLION THAT OBAMA, WHO YOU CERTAINLY VOTED FOR, has added to the national debt. Mexico welcomes our RICH FOLKS and they will send back as many of their POOR as you wish.

The feisty mayor of NYC, ED KOCH said publicly when there was a movement of people demanding that the city take over con ed, then and now one of the most expensive electric suppliers in the US. Koch directly said if you think things are bad now they will be far worse if it is government running it-

THERE IS NO MORE EXPENSIVE WAY TO DO ANYTHING THAN TO HAVE GOVERNMENT DO IT.

RE: How did that work under BUSH.
If, you are talking about the housing bubble, YOU WILL BE SHOCKED TO FIND THAT THE BILL THAT CREATED THE HOUSING BUBBLE WAS PAST UNDER BILL CLINTON.
Income taxes ONLY pay the interest on the debt...$600 billion a year.

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but still stating the obvious. The left cannot accept the obvious, even when it slaps them in the face. They always have a way of rationalizing their errors.
The right can be pretty oblivious too...but yes, most "conservatives" are more grounded to reality.
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SS is "out of money" because they stole it. Have them replace the $trillions they took and it will be fine. Problem is...they don't have the means to replace what they stole.
Bingo!!!

And why should the wealthy, who already pay the majority of taxes to the government have to be responsible for the retirement of the rest of us?

Social Security taxes should have been deducted from our salaries when we were working. That money should have been invested and grown to where we would be able to collect it through our final years. Instead, congress has "borrowed" from that fund and now they want citizens to anti up more to replace that money. Replace the trillions that have been "borrowed", pass a law that doesn't allow money to be borrowed from the fund ever again and we'll all be fine.

Think of all the pork barrel spending that this government has done over the last hundred years. That is money wasted in order to reassure the re-election of incumbent members of congress. if you want to know why SS is going broke, it's because someone had to pay to make your congressmen and senators look good. That is what bringing home the bacon is all about. They steal from you and then give it back claiming that they are doing good for your state.
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No budget; no accountabilty; no requirement for either by we the people.....

until the effect actually touches their lives.

Those who have no interest or do not care are all the benefactors of the government give aways (to the non deserving).

Then there are some that as long as it does not affect their daily lives or lifestyle, they also do not care enough to do something.

And then there are some of us who are active in demanding accountability and responsibility from government officials. But we are very significantly out numbered by the two above.

Hence we continue to have out of control spending.

Just think about what your attitude and behavior would be if you knew you could write as many checks as you like with no consequences of any kind.
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No budget; no accountabilty; no requirement for either by we the people.....

until the effect actually touches their lives.

Those who have no interest or do not care are all the benefactors of the government give aways (to the non deserving).

Then there are some that as long as it does not affect their daily lives or lifestyle, they also do not care enough to do something.

And then there are some of us who are active in demanding accountability and responsibility from government officials. But we are very significantly out numbered by the two above.

Hence we continue to have out of control spending.

Just think about what your attitude and behavior would be if you knew you could write as many checks as you like with no consequences of any kind.
The last election should have showed you...what the VOTERS want...doesn't matter...they do what they want anyway.

There is out of control spending because the corporations own government. It's full of people THEY put there.

They not only write as many checks as they want...they get a rebate back too...as graft.
 

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