Handie, that's the problem. I have no idea what Obama means by "change." Until I get some concrete answers to that, he doesn't get my vote. I want specifics. I want proof he can do them. I want to know exactly who his cabinet will be if he is elected. Give me concrete facts, not vague platitudes and soundbites. Right now, I haven't heard anything truly concrete from any of them. The closest has been Hillary but I want the figures she's using to back up her proposals.

OMG! This thread has gotten way out of hand! You can keep your Flag Pins and hand over your heart! I've never heard of anything so petty in my life. Create jobs for people, put food on their tables, lower gas prices, provide affordable health care, lower pharmaceutical prices, quite outsourcing jobs, secure the borders, get our young people home from that hellhole Bush sent them too. The list goes on and on.

Mngirl you asked who would vote for this man. I would and I will in a heartbeat! (And I'm saying that with my hand over my heart.)

And Handiman, while you're out trollin' for chicks on that bridge, why don't you just leap off of it dahling. :joke:

I went to the same kind of a school as Red. I also was taught to stand at attention for the anthem. Putting my hand over my heart was for The Pledge of Allegiance. By the way, did the reporter who asked the question about the flag pin, have one on himself?

Chelsea24: The flag pin, the hand on the heart, and the company he keeps are all made up.
Besides he's going to change our world, hope we find out how.
This man will never win against McCain. I think that's the real problem..

Originally Posted by MnGirl

Chelsea24: The flag pin, the hand on the heart, and the company he keeps are all made up.
Besides he's going to change our world, hope we find out how.
This man will never win against McCain. I think that's the real problem..

Guess we'll just have to wait and see. BTW, he's not trying to "change the world" just trying to bring a breath of fresh air into a stale political system.

Good morning, all.

I stand with RedWitch-- doesn't matter who the politician is, I want to know what changes are planned, with the numbers and facts behind them. Good posts, RedWitch!

I was taught to place hand over heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. To be honest, I just always have done the same for the National Anthem. What this action means to me is that I am displaying respect for both. The latter has just always been my personal preference. And yeppers ... singing the National Anthem gets me blubbering like a baby. But maybe my youngest son being in Iraq right now has something to also do with that.

Take care everyone. At times, we just have to agree to disagree.

Brightest Blessings,
Rebekah

Chelsea24 - your emotions shown on these posts indicate that you fit right into the Obama mold. You might want to check on how much he has actually done since elected and sent to Washington. There is very little substance to this man, but there is a lot of hot air. I sure hope people go more for substance rather than emotional hot air. By the way, we have a volunteer army - it's their job to go where they are sent.
I'll be watching for the next rant.

Irish Rover, if I fit into the "Obama" mold, I take that as a compliment. Thank you. :bigthumbsup:

I just don't understand the people who believe it's the Gov's job to:
Provide health care
Put food on their table
Lower gas prices
Lower Pharmaceutical prices
And to quit Outsorcing jobs. :

None of this is the Gov's job.

People complain about the "Outsourcing of Jobs" but can't name a single product in their home that was made in America because they don't look and don't care.

If you want to see the Gov provide Health Care then prepare for your taxes to go up even further to pay for it, causing people to have less money, slowing down the economy, creating job loss etc......

I won't bother to explain any further, it just doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Puterguru

People complain about the "Outsourcing of Jobs" but can't name a single product in their home that was made in America because they don't look and don't care.

And you don't find this sad and disgusting? :dontknow:

Quote from Chelsea :yikes:

"And Handiman, while you're out trollin' for chicks on that bridge, why don't you just leap off of it dahling."

I really know better than to get involved here, butt the devil made me do it :chillout:

That's it I'm gone, poof

Handie :joke:

1rnfl And it's about time!!! Bye poofer Handi. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :joke:


And as my Mother used to say "here's your hat, what's your hurry!"

Chelsea, you'd do a lot of people a favor if you'd go poof, or better yet, jump off the bridge you recommended for Handie.

Handi's leading me off the bridge. 1rnfl Forget it jjdees! You'd never get it.

FYI - I consider Handi and Mrs. Handi friends. Sorry I can't say the same for you.

Chelsea, my heart is broken.