Calling somebody a coward? That is supposed to be more mature and civil and not insulting? Geeezzz.....

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Calling somebody a coward? That is supposed to be more mature and civil and not insulting? Geeezzz.....

Wow, I had a late supper so I guess I missed some action. Yes, I do get a kick out of the self righteous here who call people cowards. Why do they say that? I never understood.

Originally Posted by rubicon

I agree with the OP primarily because important information gets lost in all the shouting. I am not one who believes you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I am open but it is contingent on a person's ability to persuade me to his/her point of view. Its easier for some to conclude that the other person has a closed mind rather than their lack of facts and or knowledge of their topic.

When folks consistently over many months and many different posts from many different people respond exactly the same way regardless of the content of the message, I think you can pretty much conclude that it is due to a closed mind.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Exactly what I was referring to is happening here. The posters who are wailing about civility are casting aspersions on others. It's hypocritical, to say the least.

I like to think I'm not 'wailing' about it but wishing for it.

I can't agree more that name-calling does NOTHING but result in either more of the same coming back at you (As ye reap, so shall ye sow) or having the other side dig their heels in even further.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

When folks consistently over many months and many different posts from many different people respond exactly the same way regardless of the content of the message, I think you can pretty much conclude that it is due to a closed mind.

Well, sometimes you get progress.

Nobody is doing the "well why do all the foreigners come here for medical treatment" argument against socialized medicine since I posted the actual statistics showing that over 10 times as many Americans go to other countries for services than foreigners coming here.

I try not to say "I'm right because your perception is wrong". I try to say "the facts don't back up your perception - perhaps there's something else that might, otherwise, consider the alternative"

Sometimes the facts DO speak to people.

It's been my experience that people do NOT like to admit when they are wrong. Quite frankly, it's programmed into our biology. But even more than that, people HATE admitting that they were duped - which is why, I think, the term "drank the Kool-Aid" carries such emotional weight currently in addition to it's historical weight..

The Administrators had to clean up posts on this thread.....Do we have to always take our corners and come out swinging?....We really need to ask ourselves if ANY GOOD can possibly come from hateful replies to one another!!!

Originally Posted by jebartle

The Administrators had to clean up posts on this thread.....Do we have to always take our corners and come out swinging?....We really need to ask ourselves if ANY GOOD can possibly come from hateful replies to one another!!!

Just disagreeing with someone, or revealing the ignorance or duplicity of their post is sometimes seen and categorized as "hate".

Evidence the recent interview of Chris Matthews by Larry Elders, when Elders played audio of Matthews back to him to prove the duplicity of his interview answer. Chris Matthews accuses Mr. Elders of "hatred".

This happens here on this forum also. A lot of what was previously redacted were of that nature. I don't blame the moderator, but what's true is true.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/18/ch...s-larry-elder/