Originally Posted by PennBF

I believe what is important is the individual candidate and the heck with
labels like Liberal or Conservative. I personally believe that Obama is the most
dangerous President we have ever had. He is a revolutionary against a
demoncratic society, and this is not open to debate. His actions speak for themselves. This is not a statement against Democrats, (e.g. I have played chop sticks with Eleanor Roosevelt, packed her groceries and she drove her own car with no security during her older years. She was a great lady and her husband did some good work too.)

He has a "poor mans" mentality which has led him to sponsoring attempts at class struggles and separations. Does all this make me a "conservative" then I confess I am a conservative.

I agree 100%. I vote for the candidate and their ideas and personal integrity, not the party and its power mongers.

About Obama's "poor man's" mentality, I think you are right. He was born not a part of the American black slave descendants' heritage/culture, and his communist American grandparents' and mother's table talk and foreign and elite private education in Hawaii set him apart from typical caucasian heritage/society too.

He sadly did not have a father in his life, and it shows. He does not fit in with American society, black or white, and his adoption of Jeremiah Wright's "Hate Whitey" philosophy shows.

I stand my ground.

The people that manage the Villages broadcast FOX News in and near the town squares.

Ask yourselves if the committee that invites guest speakers would ever invite Bill Clinton. Would they ever invite Paul O'Neil who was critical of Bush economic policy and was Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury?

If your answer is no. Then my charge of political intolerance has merit.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

I stand my ground.

The people that manage the Villages broadcast FOX News in and near the town squares.

Ask yourselves if the committee that invites guest speakers would ever invite Bill Clinton. Would they ever invite Paul O'Neil who was critical of Bush economic policy and was Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury?

If your answer is no. Then my charge of political intolerance has merit.

The Villages is not a democracy. It is being built by private enterprise and they have as much right to invite whom they please.
For instance, The New York Times is a left-leaning rag and they can invite any person they want to write columns and editorials. You will not see many conservative opinions or writers in that fish-wrap.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I express my opinion when a political discussion arises. Sometimes with total strangers in social settings. We listen to each other and share view points. Why wouldn't you?

You are correct, most people here in TV have conservative values. I suppose that is why they are here. If you are conservative and have worked your entire life and plan to enjoy your retirement years in a place where you can make new friends and enjoy yourself, you wouldn't select to live in a place that is mostly liberal minded.

Sometimes, I even tell some of my friends, both liberals and conservatives, some of the ideologies liberals spout here on TOTV. We usually just shake our heads and laugh.

Here is a quote from Eisenhower's letter to his brother Edgar:

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

Please refer to the following website for the full text:

http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/pr...ments/1147.cfm

The modern Republican party represents the interests of the corporations as it always has, But the corporations no longer need the American Middle Class. These multinational corporations have become quasi-American entities with no distinct loyalties to America. This belief is the foundation of my hostility toward the Republican party and to some Democrats.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

The Villages is not a democracy. It is being built by private enterprise and they have as much right to invite whom they please.
For instance, The New York Times is a left-leaning rag and they can invite any person they want to write columns and editorials. You will not see many conservative opinions or writers in that fish-wrap.

You've confirmed my conclusions.

The IRS should read this post when they decide to decide the validity of your tax exempt bonds.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

Here is a quote from Eisenhower's letter to his brother Edgar:

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

Please refer to the following website for the full text:

http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/pr...ments/1147.cfm

The modern Republican party represents the interests of the corporations as it always has, But the corporations no longer need the American Middle Class. These multinational corporations have become quasi-American entities with no distinct loyalties to America. This belief is the foundation of my hostility toward the Republican party and to some Democrats.

You should do more research. There are more rich democrats then republicans. Wall Street and dems are in bed with each other and contributions to dems from major corporations equal or pass those for repubs. Your stereotyping is plenty old but it insists today because the democrats and media like it that way.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

You've confirmed my conclusions.

The IRS should read this post when they decide to decide the validity of your tax exempt bonds.

???????????? What the heck is this supposed to mean?

For goodness sakes, I am with you RichieLion, I don't understand that one either.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

???????????? What the heck is this supposed to mean?

I don't know if your builder's attorneys have resolved this yet, but my readings revealed that the IRS has contested the notion that your town centers are bona-fide government bodies. Therefore they are contesting the builders right to issue tax exempt bonds.

For more information copy and paste the heading of this post into google.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

You should do more research. There are more rich democrats then republicans. Wall Street and dems are in bed with each other and contributions to dems from major corporations equal or pass those for repubs. Your stereotyping is plenty old but it insists today because the democrats and media like it that way.

You've read Eisenhower's statement, and you've failed to address my premise. Is the Republican Party supporting corporations that no longer have an interest in a strong American Middle Class?

Originally Posted by tonyafd

I stand my ground.

The people that manage the Villages broadcast FOX News in and near the town squares.

Ask yourselves if the committee that invites guest speakers would ever invite Bill Clinton. Would they ever invite Paul O'Neil who was critical of Bush economic policy and was Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury?

If your answer is no. Then my charge of political intolerance has merit.

Of course they would never invite Bill Clinton. I don't know what they are afraid of in having some more liberal speakers or heaven forbid, a democrat. We do know that they exist, after all. I can tell you that I watched the FOX broadcast from here and when the ONE more liberal guest was speaking, I heard some boo'ing. It extends to the "newspaper", a term I use loosely. I was talking with a lady attorney last month and she told me that her group had invited a democratic candidate for a state level position (I think it was state) and that they had 450 people in attendance. Not ONE word in the paper. It is the one sidedness of TV position that bothers me a lot. I would be equally bothered if it was a liberal community that never had a conservative speaker. We are adults after all. If you don't want to hear a more liberal speaker...DON'T COME.

Even with the above, I love it here. This is, however, a company town in every sense of the word. A beautiful and wonderful company town.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

You've read Eisenhower's statement, and you've failed to address my premise. Is the Republican Party supporting corporations that no longer have an interest in a strong American Middle Class?

I would say that average middle America can identify more with Republicans then Dems. Democrats are now associated with union labor (mostly public union) minorities, and the fringe groups like homosexuals, progressives, communists, socialists etc.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

Of course they would never invite Bill Clinton. I don't know what they are afraid of in having some more liberal speakers or heaven forbid, a democrat. We do know that they exist, after all. I can tell you that I watched the FOX broadcast from here and when the ONE more liberal guest was speaking, I heard some boo'ing. It extends to the "newspaper", a term I use loosely. I was talking with a lady attorney last month and she told me that her group had invited a democratic candidate for a state level position (I think it was state) and that they had 450 people in attendance. Not ONE word in the paper. It is the one sidedness of TV position that bothers me a lot. I would be equally bothered if it was a liberal community that never had a conservative speaker. We are adults after all. If you don't want to hear a more liberal speaker...DON'T COME.

Even with the above, I love it here. This is, however, a company town in every sense of the word. A beautiful and wonderful company town.

I was down there last year and it is indeed beautiful. I especially enjoyed the golf cart paths and bicycled all over. Regretfully, on the bus ride back to the airport I had to endure the rantings about Obama's nationality. That along with the IRS mess made us question whether the Villages is for us.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I would say that average middle America can identify more with Republicans then Dems. Democrats are now associated with union labor (mostly public union) minorities, and the fringe groups like homosexuals, progressives, communists, socialists etc.

Once again you side stepped the issue that was presented. So the public unions are the new enemy. I'll bet that came from FOX news.

I think that you've forgotten to use the less tolerant names for those ethnic groups that are traditionally Democrat. You know the ethnic names that you use when you are with like thinking friends.

Since you've seen fit to characterize the typical Democrat, I feel obliged to draw parallels between the Republicans and the Nazi's. Ideally you would like to outlaw the unions. The Nazi's did that. Minorities and gays that didn't quite fit the Fascist ideal were dealt with. Don't you wish they could go away too? The Nazis found a way. Communists and Socialists were sent to the death camps.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

Once again you side stepped the issue that was presented. So the public unions are the new enemy. I'll bet that came from FOX news.

I think that you've forgotten to use the less tolerant names for those ethnic groups that are traditionally Democrat. You know the ethnic names that you use when you are with like thinking friends.

WOW...How dare someone post this kind of un-verified and slanderous stuff. Never ceases to amaze me of how much people think they know about what others say and do when they are "with like thinking friends"...