Originally Posted by tonyafd

It was such a good idea that a the Republican House and Republican Senate wouldn't touch it.
What would have happened in 2008?

If only he had a Republican House and Senate. You're forgetting the infamous "Jumpin' Jim Jeffords". Not a biggie; everyone's forgotten him.

It was still a good plan though, and ahead of it's time. The establishment resists change, especially when it saps some of their power.

Those with BDR reject anything the former president did. It's very sad.

Well, like I said before, the groups I hang around with playing golf or at the social clubs never talk politics. Some of our friends who we see socially talk politics at times and, believe it or not, all are very liberal. I have organized food drives for one of our social clubs for the Christian Food Pantry which is against many of you conservatives beliefs but we still collect quite a bit of food every month.

The Salvation Army Red Kettles are beginning very soon and I will be out ringing bells at the WalMart on 466. Hope some of you come by to drop money in the kettles - if giving to charity is not against your beliefs. In fact, we can always use a few more bell ringers, so just let me know and I can sign you up for a couple of shifts.

The Villages are full of caring and generous people. There are some grumps on this forum who say they will never give a hand-up to someone who needs it. Very tiny fraction of the good people here.

Do not be dismayed by the rantings of a few people. The Villages is truly one of the best places you can choose to live.

buggyone, I am not sure where your input comes from that leads you to continue to harp about conservatives who are against Christian charity, caring, contributing and what ever else negative contained in your post above....

I do accept that statistically in any group, you name the sample size there will always be a very small percent that are out of line with the majority. But the continual need smear the opposition, as delineated by R or D, with such ridiculous allegations is just plain nasty hot air.

I would accept that in a group of people there will be some who do not measure up to your self impose measurement of "charitable enough"...but for you to intimate those who do not measure up are conservatives is just the RANT of a partisan with a GREAT BIG need to work the party inference even in a human interest aspect of life.

You had some very nice, humane things to say, laced, as usual with partisan poison.

A very distorted, political view of life. You are entitled to your opinion. But you also need to be made aware when your allegations are just out of order/wrong....

btk

Originally Posted by tonyafd

You've hosted FOX and Friends. You've had Sarah Palin as an invited speaker. This blog is dominated by Republicans. Obviously The Villages is a Mecca for the right wing.

Do you really want to lower your property values by alienating would be buyers?

The majority of Americans see themselves as conservative. The politics in TV represents America.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, like I said before, the groups I hang around with playing golf or at the social clubs never talk politics. Some of our friends who we see socially talk politics at times and, believe it or not, all are very liberal. I have organized food drives for one of our social clubs for the Christian Food Pantry which is against many of you conservatives beliefs but we still collect quite a bit of food every month.

The Salvation Army Red Kettles are beginning very soon and I will be out ringing bells at the WalMart on 466. Hope some of you come by to drop money in the kettles - if giving to charity is not against your beliefs. In fact, we can always use a few more bell ringers, so just let me know and I can sign you up for a couple of shifts.

The Villages are full of caring and generous people. There are some grumps on this forum who say they will never give a hand-up to someone who needs it. Very tiny fraction of the good people here.

Do not be dismayed by the rantings of a few people. The Villages is truly one of the best places you can choose to live.

"There are some grumps on this forum who say they will never give a hand-up to someone who needs it"

This is quite an accusation, and condemnation of a large number of people and in my opinion requires you to validate by citing even one quote that says this !! Otherwise it is just another made up lie

Rags, just go back to some of the postings in the past and you can read those who say they will not give to any charity. I am not going to name them as that act in itself would be uncharitable.

At the Salvation Army Red Kettles, it is heartwarming to see people of all ethnic groups put money in the kettles, be it small kids putting in a few cents or adults stuffing in $20 bills. Unfortunately, there are always a couple of people who walk by and say, "Bah, humbug". We still wish them - as well as everyone else - a Merry Christmas.

As for the other things that BTK questioned in my post, I just have to stand by my own personal observations.

Yes, The Villages is a conservative place and there are still wonderful people (both conservative and liberal) who are willing to give back to others some of the good fortune we have achieved for ourselves.

Very interesting. I have never read anything that said that liberals contribute more to charities then conservatives. Could you please give us a link. Thank You.

Originally Posted by CMANN

The majority of Americans see themselves as conservative. The politics in TV represents America.

I regard George Will, Pat Buchanan and Lou Dobbs as conservative, but I don't see them as necessarily Republican although they may vote that way. Pat Buchanan is not on board with our Isreali policy. Lou Dobbs sees abuse of foreign visas damaging to the middle class. George Will has solid conservative credentials but has criticized more than one of the Republican candidates.

In your eyes does Republican equal Conservative?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

If only he had a Republican House and Senate. You're forgetting the infamous "Jumpin' Jim Jeffords". Not a biggie; everyone's forgotten him.

See the link below

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

Bush had the 106th 107th and 108th Congress on his side. In the 107th where the count was 50/50 Cheney had the tie breaking vote.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

I regard George Will, Pat Buchanan and Lou Dobbs as conservative, but I don't see them as necessarily Republican although they may vote that way. Pat Buchanan is not on board with our Isreali policy. Lou Dobbs sees abuse of foreign visas damaging to the middle class. George Will has solid conservative credentials but has criticized more than one of the Republican candidates.

In your eyes does Republican equal Conservative?

By todays standards, JFK was quite conservative. There are conservatives in both parties.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

See the link below

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

Bush had the 106th 107th and 108th Congress on his side. In the 107th where the count was 50/50 Cheney had the tie breaking vote.

You've got to include the RINO's like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Gordon Smith, Norm Coleman, Richard Lugar, George Voinovich, John Warner, Chuck Hagel, Ted Stevens and the profoundly ungrateful Arlen Specter into the mix when you discuss GW Bush's record. These liberal Republican's often were on the wrong side of the aisle when it came to standing behind the ostensible head of their party.

At least there were a few Repubicans in their right mind when Junior Bush had his ill fated regime in power.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

I stand my ground.

The people that manage the Villages broadcast FOX News in and near the town squares.

Ask yourselves if the committee that invites guest speakers would ever invite Bill Clinton. Would they ever invite Paul O'Neil who was critical of Bush economic policy and was Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury?

If your answer is no. Then my charge of political intolerance has merit.

The people who are developing this place are Republicans. They own the paper and most everything else and this is a CDD form of government.

It is not run democratically. It is run republicany. You must realize this before you decide to move here or you will be unhappy. Because there will NOT be any Democrats speaking in the square or be signing books.

I think it is only fair that potential buyers know this.

And...I don't discuss my moderate views because NO body would like me.

What am I doing here? Oh, I know...I came over and opened the political group thing to see what people are saying about Herman Cain and the sexual harrassment stuff.

the question was asked earlier in thread "...does republican = conservative?..."

I didn't see an answer, but based on this forum and others like it....YES!!!

It is pretty simple actually, conservative, republican or any other flavor names in opposition are all synonymous....eh?

btk

Originally Posted by buggyone

At least there were a few Repubicans in their right mind when Junior Bush had his ill fated regime in power.

Ha ha; .............hey, shouldn't you be lounging at the pool with a pina colada or something?