Originally Posted by Guest

Just when we think some have presented the most bizarre, stupid, off the wall, no sense at all commentary along come one that proves it can get a lot worse.

Congratulations for the most insulting, makes no sense gutter shot.
you earned it

The sad part is that someone will beat it

Originally Posted by Guest

Jesus would be proud of the popes message. Perhaps if he called punishment for the poor would go over bigger in the villages.

Punishing morons, like you and your moronic comment, might in fact be a good idea now that you mention it

The Pope seems like a decent enough man, but since I am not a Catholic I do not subscribe to kissing his ring. I won't even kiss Billy Graham's ring and I have a lot more respect for him as being instrumental in the salvation of thousands. I don't wish to take away from anyone's ideal of the Pope, but he is a man and every man has an opinion. Just because he has a position, does not make him any more right than Obama. Bad analogy, considering Obama is never right. Take his blessings if you are Catholic and just disregard his politics. He is after all from a socialist country, so that would have a certain amount of influence on his politics.

I do find it interesting that liberals would defend a holy man when most of them seem to be non-believing atheists. Just my opinion. Good for you guys! Maybe you can learn something from the Pope as you defend him.

Having gone to a Jesuit university I can tell you they are free thinkers, and the first Jesuit pope appears to be putting some in overload.

Originally Posted by Guest

Having gone to a Jesuit university I can tell you they are free thinkers, and the first Jesuit pope appears to be putting some in overload.

Ditto. I also went to a Jesuit university. According to doctrine the pope is supposed to be infallible on matters of theology and morals, not science and economics - and this pope is way off on the latter two areas. His economic theory is obviously based on his having grown up in Marxist Venezuela.

Originally Posted by dbussone

Ditto. I also went to a Jesuit university. According to doctrine the pope is supposed to be infallible on matters of theology and morals, not science and economics - and this pope is way off on the latter two areas. His economic theory is obviously based on his having grown up in Marxist Venezuela.

Believe you meant Peronista Argentina ... but your point is clear.

Originally Posted by Guest

Believe you meant Peronista Argentina ... but your point is clear.

Thanks for the correction.

Originally Posted by Guest

Ditto. I also went to a Jesuit university. According to doctrine the pope is supposed to be infallible on matters of theology and morals, not science and economics - and this pope is way off on the latter two areas. His economic theory is obviously based on his having grown up in Marxist Venezuela.

You may have a point in that regard. There was only one perfect person on this earth, and HE wasn't a Pope.

Originally Posted by Guest

You may have a point in that regard. There was only one perfect person on this earth, and HE wasn't a Pope.

Amen!

By Mike Garcia Monday, 31 Aug 2015

Pope Francis upset many conservatives when he released his encyclical on climate change this summer, but it's certainly not the first time he's raised eyebrows. The pontiff's past comments on homosexuality, capitalism, and international geopolitics have also ruffled those on the right.

Gathered below are 22 past statements by the pope that prove he's a consistent leftist.

1. He has called for centralized redistribution of wealth.

2. He has contradicted the teachings of past popes.

3. He has decried "inequality" as "the root of social ills."

4. He has rejected the most basic tenets of market-based capitalism.

5. He has rejected basic tenets of personal liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

6. He has praised a children's book promoting homosexual coupling.

7. He has spoken at length about the need to combat climate change.

8. He has defended homosexuality.

9. He has downplayed issues important to conservatives.

10. He has alienated many devout Catholics.

11. He has criticized the institution of the Catholic church.

12. He has criticized his fellow priests, and past Catholic leaders.

13. He has discouraged evangelism of the Christian faith.

14. He has criticized free-market capitalism.

15. He accepted a blasphemous crucifix from communist Bolivian President Evo Morales.

16. He has defended labor unions.

17. He has criticized fruitful Catholic families.

18. He has seemingly advocated for cultural relativism.

19. He has encouraged more liberal academic traditions supported by many Jesuits.

20. He has offered friendly visits to cruel dictators like Cuban President Raúl Castro.

21. He will deliver mass in Cuba under a communist Che Guevara portrait.

22. He has softened church rules regarding divorce and remarriage.


Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

By Mike Garcia Monday, 31 Aug 2015

Pope Francis upset many conservatives when he released his encyclical on climate change this summer, but it's certainly not the first time he's raised eyebrows. The pontiff's past comments on homosexuality, capitalism, and international geopolitics have also ruffled those on the right.

Gathered below are 22 past statements by the pope that prove he's a consistent leftist.

1. He has called for centralized redistribution of wealth.

2. He has contradicted the teachings of past popes.

3. He has decried "inequality" as "the root of social ills."

4. He has rejected the most basic tenets of market-based capitalism.

5. He has rejected basic tenets of personal liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

6. He has praised a children's book promoting homosexual coupling.

7. He has spoken at length about the need to combat climate change.

8. He has defended homosexuality.

9. He has downplayed issues important to conservatives.

10. He has alienated many devout Catholics.

11. He has criticized the institution of the Catholic church.

12. He has criticized his fellow priests, and past Catholic leaders.

13. He has discouraged evangelism of the Christian faith.

14. He has criticized free-market capitalism.

15. He accepted a blasphemous crucifix from communist Bolivian President Evo Morales.

16. He has defended labor unions.

17. He has criticized fruitful Catholic families.

18. He has seemingly advocated for cultural relativism.

19. He has encouraged more liberal academic traditions supported by many Jesuits.

20. He has offered friendly visits to cruel dictators like Cuban President Raúl Castro.

21. He will deliver mass in Cuba under a communist Che Guevara portrait.

22. He has softened church rules regarding divorce and remarriage.


Personal Best Regards:

In other words, his politics suck. But he should be apolitical, the leader of one of the worlds great religions, not involved in all the climate change and income equality crap. Give mass, encourage good works, wave at people, but get out of politics

Regarding same sex marriages, the Pope said:

“A marriage (made up of man and woman) is not the same as the union of two people of the same sex. To distinguish is not to discriminate but to respect differences… At a time when we place emphasis on the richness of pluralism and social and cultural diversity, it is a contradiction to minimise fundamental human differences. A father is not the same as a mother. We cannot teach future generations that preparing yourself for planning a family based on the stable relationship between a man and a woman is the same as living with a person of the same sex.”

He is trying to be PC but still states that marriage is between one man and one wife.

Originally Posted by Guest

Regarding same sex marriages, the Pope said:

“A marriage (made up of man and woman) is not the same as the union of two people of the same sex. To distinguish is not to discriminate but to respect differences… At a time when we place emphasis on the richness of pluralism and social and cultural diversity, it is a contradiction to minimise fundamental human differences. A father is not the same as a mother. We cannot teach future generations that preparing yourself for planning a family based on the stable relationship between a man and a woman is the same as living with a person of the same sex.”

He is trying to be PC but still states that marriage is between one man and one wife.

Agreed. But why wade thru all the PC jargon to get to the point. He's the POPE. Just say what you mean. After all, he's "infallible", so just get on with it.

Originally Posted by Guest

Agreed. But why wade thru all the PC jargon to get to the point. He's the POPE. Just say what you mean. After all, he's "infallible", so just get on with it.

Since I am not Catholic, he is NOT "infallible." He's just a man in a high position. There are plenty of men in high positions. And they all make mistakes that are highly publicized.

Originally Posted by Guest

Since I am not Catholic, he is NOT "infallible." He's just a man in a high position. There are plenty of men in high positions. And they all make mistakes that are highly publicized.

I'm not Catholic either, so that's why infallible is in quotation marks. But there are plenty who believe he is, so I have no problem with their beliefs. In either case, there really is no proof one way or the other, so maybe he is and maybe he isn't. But that's in matters of faith. Making a foray into politics is a whole different thing