Originally Posted by Guest

Oh, and are you so naive and uninformed you cannot see the politics of immigration reform ? You ONLY speak of the wonderful President and how those big bad Republicans held him back from good old immigration reform.

This is a para from an article and I wonder why I give you links to read because it is obvious you dont and wont, but this article, which by the way finally gets to blaming Republicans for the last lack of a bill, but speaks about the situation lik this....

"Why immigration reform died in Congress

Immigration reform couldn’t pass into law when Republicans controlled the White House and Congress (in 2005-2006). It couldn’t pass when a Republican was in the White House and Democrats controlled Congress (in 2007-2008). It couldn’t pass when Democrats controlled both the executive and legislative branches (in 2009-2010). And now we officially know this after yesterday: It isn’t going to pass with a Democrat in the White House, Democrats in charge of the Senate, and Republicans in charge of the House of Representatives (2011-2014). Back in 2008 or 2012, Republicans COULD argue that President Obama didn’t make immigration reform a priority, or that he took steps to stymie reform in when he was a senator. (And 2010, in particular, the one REAL moment of the Obama first term when immigration was possible, it was Senate Democratic leaders who weren’t ready to give up the politics of the issue. And the White House didn’t fight.) But now, no reasonable person can say that immigration’s death -- in 2013 and 2014 -- is anyone’s fault but House Republicans. Still, we also understand why they killed it: They saw no short-term benefit. "

Politics, for good or bad, is not as simple as those website you read and blindly believe. There are two sides and and unless you read both, well....

Of course you never ever reveal your sources, only that you heard a guy or something......but even though you have no sources, you can still make the accusations

You know why I can't read the links, because they are not included in your post. If they are, they are very well hidden.

You start every post with an insult. For some reason known only to you, you think that bothers people. Not only does it not bother people, they know exactly, who they are dealing with.

The reason why I know you can't tell one poster from another is I always cut, and paste any article that a reference in a post. Most of my references come from Wikipedia. I don't go on any liberal web site. The only news program that I watch is Morning Joe.

I have seen all your post, because you identify yourself by the first sentence of very post. So, don't even pretend that you read both sides of an issue. If you do, it is only reason to try a rip apart the opposing view.

How many times did McConnell filibuster legislation in 2009-2010? You are going to sit there, and pretend that McConnell wouldn't have filibustered any immigration bills that hit the Senate floor. Come on, man!

Republican can argue anything they want about why immigration laws haven't changed. They have to know that building a fence, and nothing else will never pass. Deporting 11 million illegals will never happen. The senate bill that passed several years ago wouldn't pass in the Senate now, because the Republicans see no reason to compromise now.

I take back the comment that I made about you not providing the link, but it wasn't included in your post. Here is the article.

Why Immigration Reform Died in Congress - NBC News

The Republicans saw no short term benefit. Most people would think they saw no short term benefit in dealing with illegals in this country. That the problem would still be there. Why didn't you quote the rest of that statement? They saw no short term political gain in immigration reform. So, now we are not going to do want is best for the country, but we are going to what is best for our party?

Originally Posted by Guest

You know why I can't read the links, because they are not included in your post. If they are, they are very well hidden.

You start every post with an insult. For some reason known only to you, you think that bothers people. Not only does it not bother people, they know exactly, who they are dealing with.

The reason why I know you can't tell one poster from another is I always cut, and paste any article that a reference in a post. Most of my references come from Wikipedia. I don't go on any liberal web site. The only news program that I watch is Morning Joe.

I have seen all your post, because you identify yourself by the first sentence of very post. So, don't even pretend that you read both sides of an issue. If you do, it is only reason to try a rip apart the opposing view.

How many times did McConnell filibuster legislation in 2009-2010? You are going to sit there, and pretend that McConnell wouldn't have filibustered any immigration bills that hit the Senate floor. Come on, man!

Republican can argue anything they want about why immigration laws haven't changed. They have to know that building a fence, and nothing else will never pass. Deporting 11 million illegals will never happen. The senate bill that passed several years ago wouldn't pass in the Senate now, because the Republicans see no reason to compromise now.

Are you done whining about how misunderstood you are now? If you are going to comment on a thread, do it. Even if you are wrong, we still kind of value your input. Even if you don't have all the information and can only present one side of the issue.

Originally Posted by Guest

I take back the comment that I made about you not providing the link, but it wasn't included in your post. Here is the article.

Why Immigration Reform Died in Congress - NBC News

The Republicans saw no short term benefit. Most people would think they saw no short term benefit in dealing with illegals in this country. That the problem would still be there. Why didn't you quote the rest of that statement? They saw no short term political gain in immigration reform. So, now we are not going to do want is best for the country, but we are going to what is best for our party?

The quote and link I gave you was not intended to be partisan, many links cover both sides of an issue.

You totally ignored the part in red which was the point I was trying to make, and you either missed it or just ignored it.

That is why it was in red.

Bye