sorry i do not know how to do links, but there is a great post going around about Father Sammie Melletta (spelling?) of St John the Evangelist parish in Indiana. he gives an eleven minute homily about the assault on religious liberty and a warning about the socialist agenda of this administration which with an uproar over an insignificant issue like contraception seeks to marginalize religion from American life...a must listen for people of all faiths. am sure you can find it on you tube or google...

Thanks...I'll pass.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Thanks...I'll pass.

Typical of a liberal.

Originally Posted by chachacha

sorry i do not know how to do links, but there is a great post going around about Father Sammie Melletta (spelling?) of St John the Evangelist parish in Indiana. he gives an eleven minute homily about the assault on religious liberty and a warning about the socialist agenda of this administration which with an uproar over an insignificant issue like contraception seeks to marginalize religion from American life...a must listen for people of all faiths. am sure you can find it on you tube or google...

Here you go Chachacha. I found it on You Tube. You were close; there's only one "l" in his name instead of two.

Here's his wonderful homily on the administration's ambitions to strip the Church of it's rights and force it to engage in "repugnant actions" contrary to it's religious beliefs.

He reveals that Obama promised and reneged on a promise that he would never attempt to override the "conscience" clause and that he was shocked that they would think otherwise.

Obama lied to the Catholic Bishops over and over. What a surprise.

Here is this timely "homily" by Father Sammie L. Maletta Jr.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltTd81XpDnc]Religious Liberty Homily.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

I will look at this Father Sammie L. Maletta Jr. speech.

http://amac.us/religious-liberty-homily

Just wait until November when the "O" gets re-elected. Remember it does not matter how you vote, all that matters is "Who counts the votes." I believe that this is going to be one of the most mud slinging campaigns that we will ever see. Its important that we vote and keep a close eye on those that are counting the votes.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Just wait until November when the "O" gets re-elected. Remember it does not matter how you vote, all that matters is "Who counts the votes." I believe that this is going to be one of the most mud slinging campaigns that we will ever see. Its important that we vote and keep a close eye on those that are counting the votes.

Already setting the stage to cry "foul" huh?

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Already setting the stage to cry "foul" huh?

No, just stating the facts.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I will look at this Father Sammie L. Maletta Jr. speech.

Religious Liberty Homily by Father Sammie Maletta | AMAC, Inc.

I listened to the entire 11:38 minute speech.

This guy is also a lawyer and is basically making an opening statement in a case of not voting for Obama. He looks like a very talented trial lawyer.

I would have to look at the laws he criticizing to see just how much truth there is in what he is saying. Basically, though it is a political speech with a boycott threat of Catholic services if the Obama Administration through its Health and Human Services division insists on Catholic Churchs providing abortion. Not sure if that is even true that the Obama Administration is forcing the Catholic Church to provide abortions.

What news' reports I can find on this issue look rather slanted. Hard to get at what is actually going on without digging into the law.

Looks like double talk to me though from this Pastor. http://www.stjohnparish.org/staff_sammaletta_text.html

The Secretary of the Health and Human Services is very much pro-choice though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius

I would have a wait and see what happens to this issue. Lots of politics here.

A lawyer and a priest is like being a doctor and a mortician.

as a lawyer he is addressing the burden of understanding and complying with all the regulations implicit in the mandate...how it will interfere with the important work actually to be done...i have a trucker friend out west who told me that in the last few months trucking companies have been given 23 new regulations imposed by the fed govt, making their lives much harder and their businesses suffer....this is economic recovery?

Originally Posted by chachacha

as a lawyer he is addressing the burden of understanding and complying with all the regulations implicit in the mandate...how it will interfere with the important work actually to be done...i have a trucker friend out west who told me that in the last few months trucking companies have been given 23 new regulations imposed by the fed govt, making their lives much harder and their businesses suffer....this is economic recovery?

Again, I would have to look at the regulations to see what you are talking about concerning your trucker friend. Do not the trucking companies have their own lawyers who can explain things to the truckers?

With cell phones, gas prices, too long trucking hauls, terrorist threats and the like; there probably would be need for more regulations.

I am just not sure this priest/lawyer is actually stating the facts about the Obama Administration's Catholic Church requirements with respect to reproductive rights. I have a lot of experience with lawyers/bureaucrats and it sounds like he is fudging when he complains about the (8?) pages of complicated laws.

Law students are used to reading extremely complicated laws. It is usually a lot more than 8 pages which is involved. Law libraries abound in them.

Reproductive Rights Prof Blog

I did find this NY Times article-- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/he...?_r=1&src=recg

i really do not see the connection between the priest's remarks and all these articles except to agree that iud's and morning after pills prevent implantation of a possibly fertilized egg....this was explained to me by a doctor many years ago about the iud.. whether people agree with this position is not the point...it is the belief of catholics and in addition to the religious liberty issue, there is also the issue of the government forcing a business (insurance co) to provide a service "free"....they do not have such authority but they keep getting away with violating the constitution. just a glimpse of things to come.

Originally Posted by chachacha

i really do not see the connection between the priest's remarks and all these articles except to agree that iud's and morning after pills prevent implantation of a possibly fertilized egg....this was explained to me by a doctor many years ago about the iud.. whether people agree with this position is not the point...it is the belief of catholics and in addition to the religious liberty issue, there is also the issue of the government forcing a business (insurance co) to provide a service "free"....they do not have such authority but they keep getting away with violating the constitution. just a glimpse of things to come.

My guess is that is what the priest really is talking about with the regulations he mentions in his homily. He is just being a lawyer and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Poor little old me. I have to read all these laws so that I can be a good priest to my parishioners. Except, I forgot, did I not go to law school and win an award for trial advocacy.

The stuff I linked to should have picked up what so threatens these Bishops. Basically, it just sounds like insurance for reproductive services (iuds and morning after pills) in a Catholic Church setting.