i just don't see how these two enormous issues, religious liberty and government acting unconstitutionally and overstepping their authority, is making a mountain out of a molehill! are we from different planets?

Originally Posted by chachacha

i just don't see how these two enormous issues, religious liberty and government acting unconstitutionally and overstepping their authority, is making a mountain out of a molehill! are we from different planets?

Not exactly. Just show which regulations this priest really objects too. He is the one that is the player in this little drama.

I am pro-choice so my objectivity is not what it could be. The Catholic Church is also not a sovereign nation here in the US. They do have to abide by some laws.

it has never been a law that churches have to provide ins that pays for abortions....we taxpayers are not supposed to have to pay for abortions either, but just try refusing to pay income tax which goes to planned parenthood and pays for abortions! and most importantly, insurance companies are private businesses and cannot be mandated to sell a product. the free market decides that...if anyone wants ins which covers birth control and abortion, they should not be looking for it at a catholic institution...this whole thing is another liberal non-issue in order to weaken the church and the moral fiber of our country. another block of young people looking for freebies and voting democrat!

Did Sammie give a report on the Church's assault on little boys?

Did Sammie give an update on how many of his priests are in jial for rape?

Did Sammie give an update on how millions of dollars the Church has paid out in hush money?

...... 'prolly not ....

"Fool me once same on you. Fool me twice same on me".

The liberal factor of the Catholic Church threw their entire support behind Obama. Obama lived up to his reputation and threw the catholic church under the bus (lied) like he had done time and time again with other organizations and individuals,

So after all of this doesn't the liberal faction of the catholic church state that beside his lies they will continue to support him. Shame on you

If the economy continues to improve and Obama continues to prevent terrorist attacks on our soil - two areas where the R's fail miserably - it's probably safe to say he'll receive support.

What the Catholic church thinks about him is irrrelevant.

It'll be interesting to see if Obama or the R candidate receives a majority of the female vote come November.

Originally Posted by chachacha

it has never been a law that churches have to provide ins that pays for abortions....we taxpayers are not supposed to have to pay for abortions either, but just try refusing to pay income tax which goes to planned parenthood and pays for abortions! and most importantly, insurance companies are private businesses and cannot be mandated to sell a product. the free market decides that...if anyone wants ins which covers birth control and abortion, they should not be looking for it at a catholic institution...this whole thing is another liberal non-issue in order to weaken the church and the moral fiber of our country. another block of young people looking for freebies and voting democrat!

Chacha - we ALL pay for things with our taxes that we don't want. Seriously - don't you remember left-leaning people who didn't want to pay the portion of their taxes going to the military?

Originally Posted by coralway

If the economy continues to improve and Obama continues to prevent terrorist attacks on our soil - two areas where the R's fail miserably - it's probably safe to say he'll receive support.

What the Catholic church thinks about him is irrrelevant.

It'll be interesting to see if Obama or the R candidate receives a majority of the female vote come November.

The female vote favors Obama thus far,

You may want to do a little more reading on the economy and less on what Obama press secretary reports. As for the terrorist attacks thank you for thanking Bush because despite Obama's claims he retained Bush's policies to his credit. Except now we find Holder who is attacking NYC terorist policies that have kept that city safe since 9/11.

What the Catholic Church thinks may or may not be irrelevant. However what Obama is trying to force the Catholic Church to do is just plain unconstitutional and very relevant to all of our lives irrespective of our religious/non religious beliefs. We need to stay united in that cause in order to maintain our freedoms

Originally Posted by rubicon

The female vote favors Obama thus far,

You may want to do a little more reading on the economy and less on what Obama press secretary reports. As for the terrorist attacks thank you for thanking Bush because despite Obama's claims he retained Bush's policies to his credit. Except now we find Holder who is attacking NYC terorist policies that have kept that city safe since 9/11.

What the Catholic Church thinks may or may not be irrelevant. However what Obama is trying to force the Catholic Church to do is just plain unconstitutional and very relevant to all of our lives irrespective of our religious/non religious beliefs. We need to stay united in that cause in order to maintain our freedoms

Unlike you, I don't need to read about the economy to feel it's effects. My 401(k) and other investments tells me everything I need to know. But, you keep listening to Rush and Palin to tell you how it is.

If the Church wants a voice - tell them to pay taxes - otherwise, their opinions means nothing.