Originally Posted by janmcn

Speaker Ryan will tell those coal miners in WV and KY who will be losing their healthcare, 'try to hang on two more years and we will try to pick up eight senate seats so we can pass a replacement', or don't worry Trump will be reopening those coal mines any day now, just try not to succumb to that black lung disease.

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Originally Posted by Guest

Speaker Ryan will tell those coal miners in WV and KY who will be losing their healthcare, 'try to hang on two more years and we will try to pick up eight senate seats so we can pass a replacement', or don't worry Trump will be reopening those coal mines any day now, just try not to succumb to that black lung disease.

Do you have something against working folk? You seem to think that if the Democrats block a replacement, just for spite that it is a good thing. I really don't think they will block a new program. Anyone of them knows that the Republicans are saving their butts by repealing a program that is about to implode. I already know that Sen Manchin will vote for a new bill. They are not all petulant Obama groupies. Besides, the new bill will be bipartisan in creation.

Originally Posted by Guest

How do you figure that? Guess you don't remember the inflation created by Carter? Obama saved nothing. Recovery began to come about in spite of him, not because of him.

Oh my how quaint of you ... the country came together despite Obama. Your knowledge of recent history is incredibly lame. It is better to say that despite the GOP Congress not working with Obama he succeeded anyway.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do you have something against working folk? You seem to think that if the Democrats block a replacement, just for spite that it is a good thing. I really don't think they will block a new program. Anyone of them knows that the Republicans are saving their butts by repealing a program that is about to implode. I already know that Sen Manchin will vote for a new bill. They are not all petulant Obama groupies. Besides, the new bill will be bipartisan in creation.

the utter BS of this comment is driven directly by how much Fox news you watch.

Obamacare needs fixed, not replaced. Why not just change the things you don't like and keep that which you do. Why do we have to make these things so hard and party driven.

Originally Posted by Guest

the utter BS of this comment is driven directly by how much Fox news you watch.

Obamacare needs fixed, not replaced. Why not just change the things you don't like and keep that which you do. Why do we have to make these things so hard and party driven.

Why fix it when it is easier to replace it with something that is NOT two thousand pages long and nobody has ever read the whole thing? We can still have decent health care without having to justify preserving a NAME. If the ego is so great that there is a need by the left to preserve a name of a program that near destroyed America, what is the point? SO that the left can feel that they have redeemed their racist selves in the eyes of their peers. Kind of like Hollywood patting themselves on the back by voting to give each other trophies and awards. What does it do for the regular people?

Taking the salt and dirt out of sea water makes it drinking water. Taking the crap and wealth redistribution out of Obamacare makes it health care. Yes, the new plan will still be health care, just not all the gov imposed and subsidized crap that is hurting America. I am surprised that the left would insist on keeping the label Obamacare after seeing how it has almost destroyed our economy and the middle class.

The Republicans were locked out of the creation of Obiecare when they had some good input for it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Republicans are inviting the left in to work WITH them on creating a decent replacement, the left not only refuses but is trying to disrupt the country. Why does the left insist on destroying the fabric of what holds America together? The Republicans learned, so why can't the Democrats learn? Are they so hell bent on socialism that they are ignoring how great America once was? Republicans did not refuse to work with the Democrats. The Democrats were insisting that America be Europe and Republicans resisted. The left has gone off the track in an attempt to carry too many passengers along with it.

Obamacare is doomed, regardless of whether or not it is replaced. The left doesn't even want to know about it. Congress (Democrats) stole almost a trillion bucks from Medicare/SS to pay for Medicaid. The states that opted in for the program were given start up money for Medicaid by the gov. That was temporary. Now, the money has to come from the state to subsidize the Obamacare version of Medicaid and that means that each state participating MUST increase state taxes in order to pay for Obamacare/Medicaid. Those states are going to hit the middle class really hard, because it is the middle class that pays a lot of state taxes, including property taxes and fuel taxes, etc. The left is oblivious to this and will attempt to ignorantly deny it until someone draws them a picture. Someone has to pay for ObamaCare and the cost is high. That is why it is so hard to find a replacement that will not make all the gov subsidized addicted have to go cold turkey. The middle class has been hit the hardest by Obiecare and that is why Hillary lost.
It is time for the Democrats to come back from the far, radical left of socialism and become the great American DemocratIC party it once proudly was before the radical socialists destroy what Democrats used to stand for.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why fix it when it is easier to replace it with something that is NOT two thousand pages long and nobody has ever read the whole thing? We can still have decent health care without having to justify preserving a NAME. If the ego is so great that there is a need by the left to preserve a name of a program that near destroyed America, what is the point? SO that the left can feel that they have redeemed their racist selves in the eyes of their peers. Kind of like Hollywood patting themselves on the back by voting to give each other trophies and awards. What does it do for the regular people?

Taking the salt and dirt out of sea water makes it drinking water. Taking the crap and wealth redistribution out of Obamacare makes it health care. Yes, the new plan will still be health care, just not all the gov imposed and subsidized crap that is hurting America. I am surprised that the left would insist on keeping the label Obamacare after seeing how it has almost destroyed our economy and the middle class.

The Republicans were locked out of the creation of Obiecare when they had some good input for it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Republicans are inviting the left in to work WITH them on creating a decent replacement, the left not only refuses but is trying to disrupt the country. Why does the left insist on destroying the fabric of what holds America together? The Republicans learned, so why can't the Democrats learn? Are they so hell bent on socialism that they are ignoring how great America once was? Republicans did not refuse to work with the Democrats. The Democrats were insisting that America be Europe and Republicans resisted. The left has gone off the track in an attempt to carry too many passengers along with it.

Obamacare is doomed, regardless of whether or not it is replaced. The left doesn't even want to know about it. Congress (Democrats) stole almost a trillion bucks from Medicare/SS to pay for Medicaid. The states that opted in for the program were given start up money for Medicaid by the gov. That was temporary. Now, the money has to come from the state to subsidize the Obamacare version of Medicaid and that means that each state participating MUST increase state taxes in order to pay for Obamacare/Medicaid. Those states are going to hit the middle class really hard, because it is the middle class that pays a lot of state taxes, including property taxes and fuel taxes, etc. The left is oblivious to this and will attempt to ignorantly deny it until someone draws them a picture. Someone has to pay for ObamaCare and the cost is high. That is why it is so hard to find a replacement that will not make all the gov subsidized addicted have to go cold turkey. The middle class has been hit the hardest by Obiecare and that is why Hillary lost.
It is time for the Democrats to come back from the far, radical left of socialism and become the great American DemocratIC party it once proudly was before the radical socialists destroy what Democrats used to stand for.

All this BS so about 50 million worthless minorities can stay "healthy" so we can KEEP housing them, feeding them, and supporting their kids.

Originally Posted by Guest

All this BS so about 50 million worthless minorities can stay "healthy" so we can KEEP housing them, feeding them, and supporting their kids.

It's called protection money. We pay them and they don't rob us. How's that working out? Answer: not so good.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dave - did you cut your baIIs off shaving? If you watched Paul Ryan's townhall last night you would be less concerned. Possibly you did not watch because you thought (unt and Jan would not approve of you getting information from the horses mouth...

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Have you looked at the fact checking of ryan's townhall and the lies he told?

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Originally Posted by Guest

I had NO problems UNTIL Obamacare. And my daughter pays about $13K deductible per year, THANKS to Obiecare.
They can repeal without replacing and it will be a better deal than we have now. But Republicans want to do it right this time and open up the competition so that it will drive the price down. Tell me why you don't like that? And all this crying about Medicare that you keep doing, why did you not complain about them stealing close to a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for Medicaid?

The only problem I have with the Republican idea is that it's taken so long to bring to fruition.

Open it up to competition, like they did with Medicare Part D?

Originally Posted by Guest

And the ironic point that I find very amusing is that thanks to Harry Reid, the Republicans do not need the Dems to repeal ObieCare. They only need them to replace it. So, if the Dems refuse to replace it, then THEY will be the bad guys in the next election. I know one that already said he would vote to replace it.
They will repeal it, and will replace it. I don't care if they replace it as long as the get rid of it. In this case, going back is better than keeping it. It is the largest gov blunder of all time and America NEVER wanted it.

So the Democrats will vote for anything so they don't look bad, do you ever look at the history of past legislation? You are someone, just like trump, that just makes things up and think no one will notice. What a buffoon!

Originally Posted by Guest

So the Democrats will vote for anything so they don't look bad, do you ever look at the history of past legislation? You are someone, just like trump, that just makes things up and think no one will notice. What a buffoon!

Originally Posted by Guest

What are you doing? Yelling fire in the theater? The House passed a resolution Friday that will direct committees in the Senate to draft legislation that would repeal the ACA. This is miles away from your statement they voted to repel it. Where did you get your responsible journalism degree ? CNN ?

No, i think he got it from Fox.

Originally Posted by Guest

Competition is the short answer. But, I am sure you have already heard that, but you don't believe it.

But, I would not care if they repealed it and then DIDN'T replace it. It was better before Obiecare. I do not feel that hard working families should pay for others to have health care insurance, just because some feel it is the right thing to do.

So your okay with not getting insurance because you have a pre-existing illness and companies, when you get sick, being able to cancel you?

Originally Posted by Guest

So what about those millions who have already lost their healthcare because of Obamacare because they can't afford it? When it is less to pay the fine and penalty than to have it, then guess what...it is nothing but the biggest scam ever foisted onto the American public. Remember, one of the major creators said that the public was "too stupid to figure out" what they were doing.

Whatever replaces it, my bet is that Congress won't "have to pass it to find out what's in it" this time.

Of course the repubs always have everything thought out, and I have some land in Florida for sale cheap, it's only under water when it rains.

Originally Posted by Guest

So your okay with not getting insurance because you have a pre-existing illness and companies, when you get sick, being able to cancel you?

Is your car insurance based on your driving history? Homeowners insurance based on past occurrences? Liability insurance based on your past actions?

ALL insurance is based on YOUR risk. The more they think they'll have to pay out...the higher the premiums. Why do you think you're "special" and should have US subsidize you?

Don't we do ENOUGH for the poor? We house them, we feed them, pay for their TV and cell phone...now we're supposed to keep them alive as long as possible so they can cost us more? Why? What do WE get from them besides misery?

Originally Posted by Guest

Of course the repubs always have everything thought out, and I have some land in Florida for sale cheap, it's only under water when it rains.

And I have a whole race of people who are "equal" only when they get the standards lowered and a quota...I'll sell you...cheap too.