Originally Posted by RichieLion

I know what you're saying. I always hope for a cogent answer though and try to draw it out, even if it's flawed. Lately, all the most rabid do though is insult and attack. Eventually, they disappear from this forum. Can't imagine why

I have a hunch that they can't handle the truth. That is OK, I have a hard time with it too sometimes.
I can't imagine why they leave either!?! I guess we have to do without them, eh?
Don't be sad though when they leave...just pretend that they are still here but are ignoring you!

I know so many on it that did in fact work for 40 or more years at small business' or factories that had no retirement plans and truly need Medicare and SSI. I understand they could have saved better, but:::::::: I may be just being greedy myself because although I have both retirement and 401, I do count on my SSI to keep me funded well enough to live in The Villages.

QUESTION: Can we keep some form of SSI for long term?
Best guess as to will we keep this program?

Just to make sure everyone is up on the facts. It's not like Social security went and 'spent their surpluses'. There are several steps involved here.

1) The SSA brings in more money in FICA taxes than they need to pay out in benefits.
2) The SSA takes that surplus and buys T-Bills, just like countless other investors. The SSA is require BY LAW to do this with any of their surpluses.
3) As of LBJ's administration, the US Government started counting the SSA surpluses as if it were regular government tax receipts to mask the size of the deficit.
4) The debt crisis threatened to affect the SSA only in the respect that the SSA might not have been paid the coupons (interest) and/or bond redemption (maturation) would have impacted the SSA's checkbook. Since the SSA has been running at a deficit the last couple of years, they now NEED those interest and other bond payments or else they can't pay ALL (only most) of the benefits they're on the hook for.

As I said in another thread - it depends on how you look at it. The SSA either has a big batch of the safest investments on the planet or a piles of risky IOUs.

Speaking of why SS is in trouble, see todays post titled "Whose Responsible", a fair assessment.

I think those who leave and don't come back, but probably lurk or come back with a different screen name....do so because they know full well they CANNOT support some of the goings on by THEIR man/party/administration and are lemming bound to support no matter what philosophy. Life is difficult when one can only live and espouse what is politically correct. It excludes right and wrong, hence confusion for some and the only resort is to ....vanish!?!?

The above is not meant to disparage but is how I see it.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

I think those who leave and don't come back, but probably lurk or come back with a different screen name....do so because they know full well they CANNOT support some of the goings on by THEIR man/party/administration and are lemming bound to support no matter what philosophy. Life is difficult when one can only live and espouse what is politically correct. It excludes right and wrong, hence confusion for some and the only resort is to ....vanish!?!?

The above is not meant to disparage but is how I see it.

btk

I like that. May I borrow it someday? (They also like to put people on ignore list)

Originally Posted by billethkid

I think those who leave and don't come back, but probably lurk or come back with a different screen name....do so because they know full well they CANNOT support some of the goings on by THEIR man/party/administration and are lemming bound to support no matter what philosophy. Life is difficult when one can only live and espouse what is politically correct. It excludes right and wrong, hence confusion for some and the only resort is to ....vanish!?!?

The above is not meant to disparage but is how I see it.

btk

You may have something there BTK. Maybe we should have to provide name, Address and Phone number for verification before being allowed to post in Political. That would clean up the insults real quick.

Originally Posted by billethkid

I think those who leave and don't come back, but probably lurk or come back with a different screen name....do so because they know full well they CANNOT support some of the goings on by THEIR man/party/administration and are lemming bound to support no matter what philosophy. Life is difficult when one can only live and espouse what is politically correct. It excludes right and wrong, hence confusion for some and the only resort is to ....vanish!?!?

The above is not meant to disparage but is how I see it.

btk

Quote from Al Gore ( I love quoting Al Gore):

" A zebra does not change its spots."

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

I have a hunch that they can't handle the truth. That is OK, I have a hard time with it too sometimes.
I can't imagine why they leave either!?! I guess we have to do without them, eh?
Don't be sad though when they leave...just pretend that they are still here but are ignoring you!

THE TRUTH...you mean YOUR truth, which is so far to the right it is almost off the ends of the Earth, which you do know is round, right?

Originally Posted by ladydoc

THE TRUTH...you mean YOUR truth, which is so far to the right it is almost off the ends of the Earth, which you do know is round, right?

That is on the border of being really mean.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

That is on the border of being really mean.

Looks like you adopted the icon I use...that you found so irritating.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Looks like you adopted the icon I use...that you found so irritating.

I use many icons depending on the occasion.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...r-voters-perry