Originally Posted by Guest

For ease of following I have highlighted the parts that are purely your view, your opinion and very often BS or you've got the wrong person to take to task.

It is a fair question when I challenge something being said about Trump that would have been ignored by Obama.

If you are looking for go along to get along....I do not subscribe to that. I simply, very simply challenge the double standards used in what is tolerated today vs the past 8 years. That, like it or not is meant to bring perspective....to the CURRENT discussion.

I do not go after you or anybody else personally. I do not refer to anybody's race or religion as alledged in far too many of your posts.

This will be the last post trying to defend my postings, my opinions, my beliefs. I am entitled to mine just as you are to yours.

Enough of this merry go round rhetoric.....for me that is.

Ok with me.

The only thing you ever say, without any backup except your hate is your speaking of Obama, Clinton, and any person not aligned with YOUR political views. It is old... THAT is not a position.

"In his wildest dreams, Russian leader (and former Soviet intelligence officer) Vladimir Putin could have never imagined the extent of his success during President Donald Trump’s first five months in office.

Trump’s move on Tuesday to terminate FBI Director James Comey puts another huge point on the scoreboard for Putin — especially given the FBI’s lead role in probing possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Trump’s decision to fire Comey is another win for Vladimir Putin - Vox

Someday, perhaps you can offer something on here besides hate for Obama before this thing is all over

Originally Posted by Guest

iNTERNATIONAL FEELINGS IN GENERAL

"Trump has also taken up an inordinate share of the international news cycle. The tenor of the coverage has been mixed, from the Russian TV host who praised Trump for avoiding the word democracy in his inauguration speech to the German reporter who was hailed as a hero at home for her tough questioning of Trump during a press conference and the Australian newspaper that reopened its Washington bureau to take advantage of the Trump bump.

Media Tenor International, a monitoring firm based in Switzerland, has been tracking Trump coverage in Europe and the US since Trump announced his run. Founder and CEO Roland Schatz says there has been more coverage of Trump in European media than any other US president—most of it negative.

As US media gave Trump a honeymoon, international journalists took aim - Columbia Journalism Review

INTERNATIONAL SPECIFIC..

"The story had international reverberations as well, in countries ranging from America’s allies to its adversaries, on and off the front pages. In Germany, Der Spiegel, like some U.S. commentators, dubbed the event “The Tuesday Night Massacre,” in reference to former President Richard Nixon’s order to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Watergate scandal. (That incident was a “massacre” because it resulted in the resignation of the attorney general and his deputy, both of whom refused to carry out the firing on Nixon’s behalf. Tuesday, Comey alone was fired.) The weekly magazine noted that, while the White House denied allegations the move was related to Comey’s role overseeing the investigation into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, “few believe it.” German tabloid Bild also likened the incident to what happened under Nixon, calling the event “so dramatic.”

In France, the center-left daily Le Monde newspaper dubbed the event Trump’s “coup de force” against the FBI, noting that while the U.S. president’s decision was said to be motivated by Comey’s mismanagement of the case surrounding Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private emails, “the American press does not believe” it.

In the U.K., the BBC queried whether Comey’s firing could be part of a cover up, noting that “no-one—in Congress, in conservative circles, even in the FBI itself —seemingly had an inkling of what was in store.” An op-ed by Laurence Douglas in the left-leaning Guardian called the firing “a brazen attack on the rule of law,” noting that “even if innocent of collusion, Trump has done something almost as bad—he has undermined investigative independence, a mainstay of rule-based governance.” Writing in the conservative weekly magazine The Spectator, Freddy Gray questioned if the incident warranted its Nixon comparisons. “As usual with Trump, though, it seems impossible to figure out quite what he is up to. If he really wanted to conceal his ties to Russia, why would he do something quite so dramatic? … It seems extremely foolish to draw so much attention, even for this reckless administration, unless of course Trump really does have nothing to hide.”

How International Media Saw James Comey's Firing - The Atlantic

Again, making america great again my a$$.....it is all about HIM and nobody else.

There afraid the foreign aid going to be cut off. They been sucking the American tit for long time. It's time they start paying their own way. Especially for NATO and useless United Nations.

Originally Posted by Guest

There afraid the foreign aid going to be cut off. They been sucking the American tit for long time. It's time they start paying their own way. Especially for NATO and useless United Nations.

Originally Posted by Guest

Ok with me.

The only thing you ever say, without any backup except your hate is your speaking of Obama, Clinton, and any person not aligned with YOUR political views. It is old... THAT is not a position.

"In his wildest dreams, Russian leader (and former Soviet intelligence officer) Vladimir Putin could have never imagined the extent of his success during President Donald Trump’s first five months in office.

Trump’s move on Tuesday to terminate FBI Director James Comey puts another huge point on the scoreboard for Putin — especially given the FBI’s lead role in probing possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Trump’s decision to fire Comey is another win for Vladimir Putin - Vox

Someday, perhaps you can offer something on here besides hate for Obama before this thing is all over

One sees and hears what one wants to see and hear.
To each his own....allowed in most quorums.

Originally Posted by Guest

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

1. If, you are not aware, more Russians died in WWII then all the other allies combined. It is true that both the US and Great Brittan had a mistrust of the Russians.
Amusing is the fact that the Japanese, Italians and the Germans were the axis powers. Which Japanese are arians.

2. As to today, DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS AS ENEMIES?
IF, SO WHY? I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU AND THE OTHER HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS YOU CANNOT SEE YOUR ANTI TRUMP PREJUDICE.

3. We are seeing a world military build up. Not only in N.Korea but in China as well. China out numbers us 200 to 1. We say, we hope NEVER but, rationally I would much rather see Russia at our side then charging at us.

4. RE: Russian influence in our election
FIRST OF ALL IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. In your PREJUDICE you CHOOSE to give Obama, Hillary and all around them Bill, Lynch a pass.
Are you aware that Obama tried to sabotage the election of Netanyahu? Are you aware that Obama stuck his nose into Kenya's politics AND HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE.

Originally Posted by Guest

1. If, you are not aware, more Russians died in WWII then all the other allies combined. It is true that both the US and Great Brittan had a mistrust of the Russians.
Amusing is the fact that the Japanese, Italians and the Germans were the axis powers. Which Japanese are arians.

2. As to today, DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS AS ENEMIES?
IF, SO WHY? I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU AND THE OTHER HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS YOU CANNOT SEE YOUR ANTI TRUMP PREJUDICE.

3. We are seeing a world military build up. Not only in N.Korea but in China as well. China out numbers us 200 to 1. We say, we hope NEVER but, rationally I would much rather see Russia at our side then charging at us.

4. RE: Russian influence in our election
FIRST OF ALL IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. In your PREJUDICE you CHOOSE to give Obama, Hillary and all around them Bill, Lynch a pass.
Are you aware that Obama tried to sabotage the election of Netanyahu? Are you aware that Obama stuck his nose into Kenya's politics AND HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE.

Do you ever read the news ? I mean that...EVER ?

You are on a wave length that is of the occult.

This is a country that supports OPENLY a government (Syria) where mass executions are the norm. Do YOU know how many journalists that are Russian have died trying to expose this truth alone.

Promoting a lack of faith in Western institutions allows Moscow to promote ideologies and processes that support its interests. These include support for authoritarian governments, ethno-nationalists, and for kleptocracies extracting resources for personal gain.

They have invaded and taken over countries.

They have been PROVEN to have been the seed of, the action of trying to impact the election of OUR country. Of course this little fact is of NO consequences, it seems to you and your ilk.

I dont want the Russians as enemies...they already ARE

What planet do you people live on. A real estate salesman is bilking you for HIS gain, certainly not our country.

You folks better wake up and quick. They celebrate each day in Russia and most of you read their various sites each day so you know that as you cite what you read.

Originally Posted by Guest

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

Russians in the oval office Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Russians in the oval office Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

That is a fair and balanced polite assessment.
Using the oppositions optics of today.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do you ever read the news ? I mean that...EVER ?

You are on a wave length that is of the occult.

This is a country that supports OPENLY a government (Syria) where mass executions are the norm. Do YOU know how many journalists that are Russian have died trying to expose this truth alone.

Promoting a lack of faith in Western institutions allows Moscow to promote ideologies and processes that support its interests. These include support for authoritarian governments, ethno-nationalists, and for kleptocracies extracting resources for personal gain.

They have invaded and taken over countries.

They have been PROVEN to have been the seed of, the action of trying to impact the election of OUR country. Of course this little fact is of NO consequences, it seems to you and your ilk.

I don't want the Russians as enemies...they already ARE!

What planet do you people live on. A real estate salesman is bilking you for HIS gain, certainly not our country.

You folks better wake up and quick. They celebrate each day in Russia and most of you read their various sites each day so you know that as you cite what you read.

It boggles the mind, how many Cultists infected with the actual 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' (he can do no wrong) cannot even fathom...your very accurate statements underlined above.

Maybe if more yelling (by using caps), might pierce the void of people like susie?

I swear...some people.

Originally Posted by Guest

Russians in the oval office Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

"Here is how it works: Rather than defend President Trump’s specific actions, his conservative champions change the subject to (1) the biased “fake news” media, (2) over-the-top liberals, (3) hypocrites on the left, (4) anyone else victimizing Mr. Trump or his supporters and (5) whataboutism, as in “What about Obama?” “What about Clinton?”

For the anti-anti-Trump pundit, whatever the allegation against Mr. Trump, whatever his blunders or foibles, the other side is always worse."


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/o...ight.html?_r=0

KARDASHIAN YOU SAY ????

"WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A foreign ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/u...tion-isis.html

And we have to put up with it, because as he tells us each day.....HE won...."Mr. Trump’s disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it represented a major breach of espionage etiquette, and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship."

Yep...other counties will line up to share information with our country now.....

Can you see Trump...."hey guys wanna see what I know" ?

Originally Posted by Guest

That is a fair and balanced polite assessment.
Using the oppositions optics of today.

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

Originally Posted by Guest

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

Give it a break!
Where is the bite me emoticon when it is needed?

Originally Posted by Guest

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

I think someone wanted to provide you with a suggestion, so I am assisting him, because I agree with him.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think someone wanted to provide you with a suggestion, so I am assisting him, because I agree with him.

"We can't have someone in the oval office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified." - Donald Trump, September 6, 2016

What is the problem with turning this around? Is it possible that we put a bug on the Russians while they were at ease when they made it to the promised land, The Oval Office? Maybe while they sat down a listening device was planted on them. I have no proof, just a thought. If you think its not possible your nuts.