Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I don't understand why so many self-professed liberal women say they don't respect Sarah Palin. I never understood why the NOW didn't defend Palin against so many attacks involving her gender and her children.

It doesn't make sense to me that a woman who was elected governor of a state and then received a national nomination to be vice president of this country isn't put on a pedestal for everything woman libbers say they fought to be recognized to represent and say they stand for.

Even if you don't agree with her politics, it just doesn't make sense to me to not respect what she has achieved. Even if you take the additional real world and real life hurdles out of the pictures she has faced in her life like a Downs Syndrome baby and a teenager who got pregnant out of wedlock. Adding those reallife situations just makes me admire her all the more.

As a man, I have the most respect for Mrs. Palin then any woman candidate in recent memory. Certainly more respect for her then that woman who tried to "dress down" a Two Star General.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I don't understand why so many self-professed liberal women say they don't respect Sarah Palin. I never understood why the NOW didn't defend Palin against so many attacks involving her gender and her children.

It doesn't make sense to me that a woman who was elected governor of a state and then received a national nomination to be vice president of this country isn't put on a pedestal for everything woman libbers say they fought to be recognized to represent and say they stand for.

Even if you don't agree with her politics, it just doesn't make sense to me to not respect what she has achieved. Even if you take the additional real world and real life hurdles out of the pictures she has faced in her life like a Downs Syndrome baby and a teenager who got pregnant out of wedlock. Adding those reallife situations just makes me admire her all the more.

Well I'm just a man, so I don't know if my opinion counts. But I'll take a stab at it anyway. I happen to agree with your statements above and agree that is seems incongruous that the cause of "women's liberation" isn't seen as having been largely realized in the amazing career of Sarah Palin by the groups that identify themselves as promoting women's issues.

My opinion, and I must confess again that I am only a man, is that the predominantly left wing ideology of these "women's groups" will not allow themselves to be identified with any woman who professes to be pro-life. Also, Sarah Palin happens to be a very attractive woman and the life of a physically attractive and politically conservative woman is not high on the list of admired women in liberal circles, to say the least.

Yup, she is a complete package and that is a threat to the insecure liberal- type "ladies"

Originally Posted by mermaid72

I think you missed what I was trying to say, but then I don't think that I stated my point too well because I was trying very hard not to let my political views color the original question! LOL

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The main thing with my objection is that I do not feel that Ms. Palin acts, speaks, or behaves in the manner that I feel is appropriate for a political candidate of our country.

Thanks for not getting nasty, or flaming me, we all have our views and it is nice to be able to express them!

Your clarification says it all! And it shows that you have been there and done that - as a woman! My congratulations on your accomplishments! My ilk is never to be nasty - there is nothing to be gained from that! We might never have learned of your hard work and accomplishments if my words had turned you off!

That said, it seems as if we simply have different opinions. My father raised three daughters...as his sons. We were not allowed to be content to be the same as or as good as...we were required to strive to be better than, smarter than, and to jump higher and run faster than the next person - be they male or female. My father taught me to read the paper from the back page to the front page - because in conversation/business with men I was going to be required to relate to them on their level - know the sports scores and know what happened on wall street. He made sure that we believed in ourselves and would be able to stand on our own no matter what.

It seems that you were raised with just as much strength.

I just feel that when someone has something they feel has to be said, they should get out there and say it no matter what it takes to do it. I feel that Sarah Palin is doing just that! She is the reality of her generation - not ours.

I have a hard time taking her seriously BUT she is entertaining!

Originally Posted by jebartle

I have a hard time taking her seriously BUT she is entertaining!

That's a pretty disrespectful comment, but it doesn't really matter. Sarah Palin wouldn't get upset with you, as she has too much class, so I won't either.

Sarah Palin was one of the major stars in the run-up to these mid-term elections. Her endorsed and campaigned for candidates have mostly prevailed in their bids, and largely against the established Republican candidate. Now these same candidates have a huge chance of gaining the national office.

All the liberals cause great glee on the conservative side of the aisle with their underestimating of this remarkable woman.

Originally Posted by jebartle

I have a hard time taking her seriously BUT she is entertaining!

My wife has a name for you but I cannot repeat it as I would be reprimanded by the administrators.

Originally Posted by Ajack

Yup, she is a complete package and that is a threat to the insecure liberal- type "ladies"

Really Ajack,...... One thing I might NOT be is insecure!

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Well I'm just a man, so I don't know if my opinion counts. But I'll take a stab at it anyway. I happen to agree with your statements above and agree that is seems incongruous that the cause of "women's liberation" isn't seen as having been largely realized in the amazing career of Sarah Palin by the groups that identify themselves as promoting women's issues.

My opinion, and I must confess again that I am only a man, is that the predominantly left wing ideology of these "women's groups" will not allow themselves to be identified with any woman who professes to be pro-life. Also, Sarah Palin happens to be a very attractive woman and the life of a physically attractive and politically conservative woman is not high on the list of admired women in liberal circles, to say the least.

Richie, many Liberal women admire other women for their intellect and what they have done to further the cause of women, not what they look like. That sure ain't Miss Sarah! LOL

Eleanor Roosevelt is an excellent example of someone .

But then, you're a guy..... I understand that Miss Sarah is a hottie!

Originally Posted by mermaid72

Richie, many Liberal women admire other women for their intellect and what they have done to further the cause of women, not what they look like. That sure ain't Miss Sarah! LOL

Eleanor Roosevelt is an excellent example of someone .

But then, you're a guy..... I understand that Miss Sarah is a hottie!

So is it her intellect or her furthering the cause of women you think Palin lacks? BTW, what does it mean, and I'm dead serious, to "further the cause of women'"?

Originally Posted by mermaid72

Richie, many Liberal women admire other women for their intellect and what they have done to further the cause of women, not what they look like. That sure ain't Miss Sarah! LOL

Eleanor Roosevelt is an excellent example of someone .

But then, you're a guy..... I understand that Miss Sarah is a hottie!

So, "Miss Sarah" as you call her in a snide way; her remarkable life up to now, with all she has personally accomplished while at the same time demonstrating the so called "super woman" status of "having it all", meaning home, family, and career, has done nothing to further the cause of women?

Yours is one of the most myopic posts I've seen in my whole time here on TOTV. You seem to be letting a petty personal bias and lock step political viewpoint cloud your judgement in regard to "Miss Sarah".

Let me tweak this a little further. "Miss Sarah" has accomplished this all with her own hard work and her own intellect and her own unassailable values, unlike a woman I'm sure you admire that rose to prominence solely on the back of her "famous husband". Can you guess who I'm talking about?

Originally Posted by mermaid72

Richie, many Liberal women admire other women for their intellect and what they have done to further the cause of women, not what they look like. That sure ain't Miss Sarah! LOL

Eleanor Roosevelt is an excellent example of someone .

But then, you're a guy..... I understand that Miss Sarah is a hottie!

You mean you have to be homely to further the cause of women? At least Sarah didn't marry her cousin.( Eleanor's maiden name was Roosevelt, she married her cousin)

[U]It doesn't make sense to me that a woman who was elected governor of a state and then received a national nomination to be vice president of this country isn't put on a pedestal for everything woman libbers say they fought to be recognized to represent and say they stand for.



Please tell me you are kidding, this is a woman who deserted the state of Alaska to pursue "the almighty dollar"...

And as long as you brought up the nomination for VP, THAT was scary,
she was ONE step from running this country OMG, this is a gal who thought Africa was a COUNTRY!!!!.....Pleeeeease!

When she was first introduced to our country, I thoght whe was a breathe of fresh air, NOW.......Ugh!.....IMHO

Originally Posted by jebartle

[U]It doesn't make sense to me that a woman who was elected governor of a state and then received a national nomination to be vice president of this country isn't put on a pedestal for everything woman libbers say they fought to be recognized to represent and say they stand for.



Please tell me you are kidding, this is a woman who deserted the state of Alaska to pursue "the almighty dollar"...

And as long as you brought up the nomination for VP, THAT was scary,
she was ONE step from running this country OMG, this is a gal who thought Africa was a COUNTRY!!!!.....Pleeeeease!

When she was first introduced to our country, I thoght whe was a breathe of fresh air, NOW.......Ugh!.....IMHO

Deserted her state? Are you serious? Are you saying she is the first person to leave their state to make money? Surely you jest. Look the the Clintons. Hillary would leave her cush senator job in a New York heartbeat. Get real, buddy.

Talking about ONE step away from running the country, you think the USA could survive, a Joe Biden? They put him away in a bunker somewhere so he wouldn't talk to the press. They hold their collective breaths every time the man opens his mouth.

Speaking of making money, the clown in the White House sold bogus books written by a ghost writer to get rich.
Just something to chew on.

Originally Posted by jebartle

[U]It doesn't make sense to me that a woman who was elected governor of a state and then received a national nomination to be vice president of this country isn't put on a pedestal for everything woman libbers say they fought to be recognized to represent and say they stand for.



Please tell me you are kidding, this is a woman who deserted the state of Alaska to pursue "the almighty dollar"...

And as long as you brought up the nomination for VP, THAT was scary,
she was ONE step from running this country OMG, this is a gal who thought Africa was a COUNTRY!!!!.....Pleeeeease!

When she was first introduced to our country, I thoght whe was a breathe of fresh air, NOW.......Ugh!.....IMHO

Jeb; if you would delve deeper into a story and find out all the particulars you might be able to develop a more cogent report. But in your defense, your analysis is no different from the bias of the left wing media, so you're in "good" company.
In Alaska anyone can file ethics charges against public officials for any reason very easily, and Sarah Palin, having many political enemies, was the recipient of many of these frivolous charges. (Might you have been one of these people if you lived in Alaska?)
Enormous time and lots of money was constantly being expended to deal with this nuisance and Sarah Palin decided she had enough and that her time could be put to better use for her party, for herself and in consideration of her constituents in Alaska.
There's no denying Ms. Palin is a formidable opponent of the political leftist Democrat Party, and they and their operatives are not reticent in their desire to destroy her politically and marginalize her influence in American politics. They have failed miserably in this as evidenced by recent events.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_218642.html

http://nrinstitute.org/mediamalpractice/?p=279&cpage=1

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2...ou-betcha.html