We have just spent the last 8 years with a former "governor". We don't need another 4. .

Palin claims she stood up to the good old boys network. Seems strange since she warmly embraced the endorsement of Alaska senator Ted Stevens who is currently under federal indictment. Strangely, that endorsement video was recently pulled from Palin's web site but can easily be found on You Tube. You can watch her beaming face as she stands next to Stevens while he babbles on.

She's against stem cell research and for teaching creationism in public schools. So McCain is pandering to the evangelicals and waiting for that all important support from the wacko Dobson.

This choice makes my decision a lot easier.

Originally Posted by bimmertl

We have just spent the last 8 years with a former "governor". We don't need another 4. .

Palin claims she stood up to the good old boys network. Seems strange since she warmly embraced the endorsement of Alaska senator Ted Stevens who is currently under federal indictment. Strangely, that endorsement video was recently pulled from Palin's web site but can easily be found on You Tube. You can watch her beaming face as she stands next to Stevens while he babbles on.

She's against stem cell research and for teaching creationism in public schools. So McCain is pandering to the evangelicals and waiting for that all important support from the wacko Dobson.

This choice makes my decision a lot easier.

If "pandering to evangelicals" is not supporting the killing of innocents for the convenience of others, then I must be an evangelilcal and didn't know it.

OMG, Oama no experience. Isn't he at the top of the ticket. Isn't the lady from Alaska the V.P. choice. Lot's to think about.

If John McCain is trying to tap into to the 18 million Hillary voters.....this really won't cut it. She is hardly a Hillary substitute.

Still sitting on the sideline....

Villages Kahuna, I cannot believe you're letting something as insignificant as a candidate's judgement affect your decision. You should base your decision on things which have no meaning or significance to anything. How dare you be so narrow minded! ;D ;D

Originally Posted by chelsea24

OMG! McCain is choosing Gov. of Alaska (just two years) for V.P. Really? And if I may follow up. Really? Even the Republicans are reeling. Inexperience. Unknown. Under investigation.
Could step in as our President? :yikes:

hmmm, now let me see. Really? Well, bad judgment shows through. Quite frankly, I'm speechless and elated. This insures Obama an easy win. Wow!

I knew McCain's true colors would show through, but I didn't think it would be this soon.
Sarah Palin? Really?

It REALLY does expose the poor judgement that McCain does have in deciding REALLY important matters, such as picking a Vice President and other important policy matters that Obama made the case for in his acceptance speech the other night. As a woman I am insulted & offended by McCain's patronizing and manipulating of the American women,Christians,Union members,etc. to think that the only reason he picked Sarah Palin was to appeal to these groups in order to get them to vote for him. What if his Melanoma came back and killed him, then we would have a "hockey Mom,former PTA Mom,mayor of a town in Alaska of 7000 and Gov.for a yr and a half, as a President????? ??? I want to know more about her education and background like all the other candidates and VP picks!

Gov.for a yr and a half, as a President?? I want to know more about her education and background like all the other candidates and VP picks!
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I agree with this statement and would love to see an open discussion of Sen Obama's background and training and hopefully despite the best efforts of many to stop it we will have it.

Original post as this, but if we just change the words to the italics....

OMG! McCain the Democratic Party is choosing Gov. of Alaska the junior Senator from Illinois (just two years)(just three years) for V.P. President Really? And if I may follow up. Really? Even the Republicans many Democrats are reeling. Inexperience. Unknown. Under investigation accepts personal financial favors from big business.
Could step in as be our President? :yikes:

hmmm, now let me see. Really? Well, bad judgment shows through. Quite frankly, I'm speechless and elated. This insures Obama McCain an easy win. Wow!

I knew McCain's the Democratic Party's true colors would show through, but I didn't think it would be this soon.
Sarah Palin Barack Obama? Really?


The window views both ways......

Originally Posted by SteveZ

Original post as this, but if we just change the words to the italics....

OMG! McCain the Democratic Party is choosing Gov. of Alaska the junior Senator from Illinois (just two years)(just three years) for V.P. President Really? And if I may follow up. Really? Even the Republicans many Democrats are reeling. Inexperience. Unknown. Under investigation accepts personal financial favors from big business.
Could step in as be our President? :yikes:

hmmm, now let me see. Really? Well, bad judgment shows through. Quite frankly, I'm speechless and elated. This insures Obama McCain an easy win. Wow!

I knew McCain's the Democratic Party's true colors would show through, but I didn't think it would be this soon.
Sarah Palin Barack Obama? Really?


The window views both ways......

STEVEZ, AS THIS IS MY LAST POST IN POLITICAL FOR THE TIME BEING, I THINK IT'S A CHEAP SHOT TO CHANGE MY WORDS.

A huge difference, really.

Sarah Palin was appointed by someone, either John McCain, the DNC, or a group of conservative activists. But how she got to where she is pales in importance to the possible result of her candidacy.

Barack Obama reached his position as the Democratic candidate for President after a year-long primary over the entire United States and other protectorates who voted in the primaries. He ran against all that chose to compete for the presidential nomination, a total of ten candidates, I believe. Many of those candidates had extensive experience in government and/or business. He traveled to all those places, communicated his platform to the electorate, debated all the candidates, some of them several times. He even traveled outside the U.S., where the possibility of his election here was enthusiastically met with crowds numbered in the hundreds of thousands in many places. It was the American electorate who selected Barack Obama as one of the candidates for President. They considered his qualifications and experience, evaluated his campaign platform, and his ability to lead and motivate. After all that, he WON the nomination in free and fair elections in which almost one-third of the entire U.S. population chose to vote. He is not an appointee.

You can play around with language and italics as you please. But the fact remains that two candidates could ultimately wind up as President of the United States, under different circumstances, of course. One reached that position as the result of convincing a majority of voters of his qualifications, judgement, platform and ability to lead. The other is a complete unknown who many believe was appointed either as a political expediency or to satisfy the demands of conservative political special interests.

For me--I'll take the winner of the free and fair competition who has already demonstrated his ability to lead and motivate large numbers of Americans over the period of a long campaign. I'll take a pass on the chance that a totally unknown candidate, one who is clearly and admittedly unqualified to assume the position of leader of the free world, could unexpectedly land in the oval office.

kahuna

The fact is 2 candidates won the nomination for President and two were appointed. Remember it's McCain-Obama not Palin- Obama.So that would be FOUR candidates who could ultimatly end up as president not Two.
Palin has more executive experience than Obama or Biden wether you like it or not Benj

A counter point for a few of the above comments regarding Palin's "experience" to be VP or I think it was even stated "OMG President"......

Once again I do not understand the measuring stick. How does a Senator with 147 days under his belt measure better? Hasn't history shown that Senators do not have a track record for being electable to the Presidency...once or twice in the past 50 years!!!!

First of all most Senators are lawyers, which absolutely sets them apart from everybody else on the planet. Secondly however, most importantly they are full blooded, professional, what's in it for ME first POLITICIANS. Either of these two credentials is enough to make one hesitate about their ability to manage ANYTHING. It is not at all what their training/experience has been about.

Using the fact that Bush was a governor has absolutely nothing to do with one person VS another except to be humorous or taking a partisan cheap shot.

As for Palin not being a "...Hillary replacement..." thank GOD we agree on that one. See the above...she is a lawyer....she is a Senator....and some would say she has the additional distinction/burden of being a Clinton. Nope I don't think anybody views Palin as a replacement for HC. Will Palin pull some of the HC supporters? Of course she will. That is a statistical certainty that has nothing to do with politics.

While a Governor is still obliged to play politics (doesn't everybody to one degree or another?), they also have to be more closely accountable to the people. A Senator doesn't care. A Governor will most of the time be doing what is good for their state. A Senator does not think the same about the USA. A governor can't work just part time and get the job done. Saying a Senator has a part time job is being polite about how much time they do not spend on the job.

Like y'all with prior posts above, you are entitled to your thoughts and opinions, these are mine. I still like the good old criteria I used when hiring people...don't tell me what school they went to...don't tell me all the clubs they belong to....tell me what their last boss said they do better than most...tell me what their employees liked most about them...least about them...tell me why this person is THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB! No religion....no politics...no sexual preference...

Ooooops I forgot...... I was talking about criteria for hiring people to be held accountable
for what they did AND did not do :joke:

BTK ;D

Originally Posted by chelsea24

STEVEZ, AS THIS IS MY LAST POST IN POLITICAL FOR THE TIME BEING, I THINK IT'S A CHEAP SHOT TO CHANGE MY WORDS.

Chelsea,
Am not sure why you are so upset. It was just an example that the same questions and comments could be applied for two people.

Wait a minute, You mean she is not related to MICHAEL PALIN of the Monty python flying circus ??????? Thats very disappointing but it really doesn't matter ....
I'm going to vote for her anyway , She's got more guts than Obama and Biden put together...and a helleva lot more intelect ..........
Yes I'm voting for a war hero and America's answer to Maggie Thatcher...

No time for draft dodgers fumar you heard it here first...........

Originally Posted by Lil Dancer

I agree. Palin, you've got to be kidding. So she was runner-up as Miss Alaska. Hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from acting as the head of the free world.

I am amazed at the continual references to the fact that Ms. Palin was the runner-up as Miss Alaska. Surely being good looking and a mother doesn't disqualify you from running for political office.

Ms. Palin is new, believes in change, has minimal political experience, and is running for VP. Mr. Obama is new, believes in change, has minimal political experience, and is running for the most important position in the world. Hmmmm.