Originally Posted by Guest

If you don't know how to determine who made what post, because you have attributed things to me that I never said, e.g...

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Originally Posted by Carl In Tampa
and then say that your allegations are "mostly fiction."

.... get one of your right-clique members to PM you and explain it.

I probably should let this pass, but perhaps I can explain to you that your straw man was to attribute to me things alleged in your TruthorFiction dot com statement, and then to declare that they were "mostly fiction." So, you see, I regard the Truth or Fiction allegations to be "your allegations" because they certainly were not mine.

Carl in Tampa

Originally Posted by Carl In Tampa

I probably should let this pass, but perhaps I can explain to you that your straw man was to attribute to me things alleged in your TruthorFiction dot com statement, and then to declare that they were "mostly fiction." So, you see, I regard the Truth or Fiction allegations to be "your allegations" because they certainly were not mine.

Carl in Tampa

Why do you make it so easy for me?

You stated...

Originally Posted by Carl In Tampa

The kind of maturity of a Cowardly Clinton who gave North Korea NUCLEAR REACTORS and millions in cash?

Implying that Clinton gave the NK's the method...by which to make fuel for nuclear weapons.

Remember, nuclear weapons is the subject matter here?

I then provided a legitimate site that actually tries to find the truth (Clinton was making it HARDER for NK to get nukes, read the entire article), when ignorant people try to twist the truth and loves to give... "short and easily memorized self-serving soundbites"...(like you did).

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

In regards to the underlined above, the truth is almost always more complicated...than short and easily memorized self-serving soundbites.

So thank you for proving me correct and notice how easy it is to lay out a simple, truthful and cogent argument...if you just give it a little effort?

I am pleased to know however, that we share the viewpoint that Trump is the biggest liar, blowhard and narcissist...to ever occupy the WH.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why do you make it so easy for me?

You stated...


Implying that Clinton gave the NK's the method...by which to make fuel for nuclear weapons.

Remember, nuclear weapons is the subject matter here?

I then provided a legitimate site that actually tries to find the truth (Clinton was making it HARDER for NK to get nukes, read the entire article), when ignorant people try to twist the truth and loves to give... "short and easily memorized self-serving soundbites"...(like you did).





So thank you for proving me correct and notice how easy it is to lay out a simple, truthful and cogent argument...if you just give it a little effort?

I am pleased to know however, that we share the viewpoint that Trump is the biggest liar, blowhard and narcissist...to ever occupy the WH.

I implied nothing. You would do well to accept my words to mean precisely what they say; nothing else. If I didn't SAY it, don't attribute it to me.

Your final statement is a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of me by simply lying. Too, too pathetic.

You must have an underlying streak of insecurity, to keep insulting me, when I have never insulted you. I wonder if you talk in such a nasty manner to people in person.

Originally Posted by Guest

I implied nothing. You would do well to accept my words to mean precisely what they say; nothing else. If I didn't SAY it, don't attribute it to me.

Your final statement is a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of me by simply lying. Too, too pathetic.

You must have an underlying streak of insecurity, to keep insulting me, when I have never insulted you. I wonder if you talk in such a nasty manner to people in person.

Why are you lying?

Anyone can go back and read and know that you absolutely meant to imply...that Clinton gave NK the means to develop nuclear weapons.

You then got caught, corrected...and became enraged about it.

Sorry.

Originally Posted by pathetic (unt

Why are you lying?

Anyone can go back and read...

You then got caught...

Lying, like you claiming you made a $100 charitable contribution and you never did?

Lying, like stating you had the best healthcare avaiable, and then we find out you dragged your spouse off to a 3rd world country for dental work (that was botched and required "emergency" care back here in the states...and that was not covered by your best healthcare).

You have plenty of experience with lying, 4 sure.

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Originally Posted by Guest

Why are you lying?

Anyone can go back and read and know that you absolutely meant to imply...that Clinton gave NK the means to develop nuclear weapons.

You then got caught, corrected...and became enraged about it.

Sorry.

Keep fighting for the good causes. And ignore all the trolling aimed at you. Seems to be a constant Trump tactic he used a great deal in the Republican primaries which should have been shouted down and disallowed by the moderators but the media seemed to be concerned about ratings from the Trump circus that with the state of our country which is now under threat because of two quite narcissistic and sociopathic leaders facing off with one another and both armed with nuclear weapons.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why are you lying?

Anyone can go back and read and know that you absolutely meant to imply...that Clinton gave NK the means to develop nuclear weapons.

You then got caught, corrected...and became enraged about it.

Sorry.

This has become very ho-hum.

I'll admit that I have been slow to recognize the symptoms, but at last it has become clear.

TDS

Carl in Tampa

Originally Posted by Dirtbag

Lying, like you claiming you made a $100 charitable contribution and you never did?

Lying, like stating you had the best healthcare avaiable, and then we find out you dragged your spouse off to a 3rd world country for dental work (that was botched and required "emergency" care back here in the states...and that was not covered by your best healthcare).

You have plenty of experience with lying, 4 sure.

You're lying is becoming ever more desperate, due to the fact that I'm living in your empty head...rent free.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

This has become very ho-hum.

I'll admit that I have been slow to recognize the symptoms, but at last it has become clear.

TDS

Carl in Tampa

Carl, sometimes it's just better to admit an error in judgement when it is so crystal clear or maybe remain silent. You're a smart guy; you know better.

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Originally Posted by Guest

Carl, sometimes it's just better to admit an error in judgement when it is so crystal clear or maybe remain silent. You're a smart guy; you know better.

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You have been deluded by the refutation of a statement that I did not make.

I made a simple statement. Clinton gave North Korea nuclear reactors. Coldnomore's source acknowledged this was true, arguing that they were reactors that would not facilitate development of nuclear bombs as rapidly as the existing reactors that were to be "frozen." Nonetheless, the statement was true.

And, Coldnomore's source disputed the statement that Clinton gave the North Koreans Billions of dollars. A statement that I did not make.

Faced with the fact that my statement was true, Coldnomore moved into projecting what I had implied. It is not my style to imply things. I say what I mean.

Even Coldnomore's source TruthorFicton dot com, did not say that it was False that Clinton gave North Korea nuclear reactors or gave them Billions of dollars. It rates the story (which was not my story) as "mostly fiction" based not upon the nuclear reactor statement, but upon the Billions of dollars statement (which I did not make.)

I think this is the last time I will bother to address this canard.


Carl in Tampa

Originally Posted by Guest

You have been deluded by the refutation of a statement that I did not make.

I made a simple statement. Clinton gave North Korea nuclear reactors. Coldnomore's source acknowledged this was true, arguing that they were reactors that would not facilitate development of nuclear bombs as rapidly as the existing reactors that were to be "frozen." Nonetheless, the statement was true.

And, Coldnomore's source disputed the statement that Clinton gave the North Koreans Billions of dollars. A statement that I did not make.

Faced with the fact that my statement was true, Coldnomore moved into projecting what I had implied. It is not my style to imply things. I say what I mean.

Even Coldnomore's source TruthorFicton dot com, did not say that it was False that Clinton gave North Korea nuclear reactors or gave them Billions of dollars. It rates the story (which was not my story) as "mostly fiction" based not upon the nuclear reactor statement, but upon the Billions of dollars statement (which I did not make.)

I think this is the last time I will bother to address this canard.


Carl in Tampa

Thank you for revealing in the main forum that you're also a bigot/racist and either an actual card-carrying white supremacist/KKK'er...or at a minimum a sympathizer of them.

I had a strong hunch prior, but you removed all doubt with your post in the 'very disturbing' thread.

I appreciate you proving me correct...again.

At least it's a small comfort, knowing that you're no longer in a position to exercise those abhorrent traits (either overtly or covertly)...so thank goodness for that.

And don't you EVER try to again deny that you're not an avid Trump Cultist, because almost everything you write...proves otherwise.




Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

Thank you for revealing in the main forum that you're also a bigot/racist and either an actual card-carrying white supremacist/KKK'er...or at a minimum a sympathizer of them.

I had a strong hunch prior, but you removed all doubt with your post in the 'very disturbing' thread.

I appreciate you proving me correct...again.

At least it's a small comfort, knowing that you're no longer in a position to exercise those abhorrent traits (either overtly or covertly)...so thank goodness for that.

And don't you EVER try to again deny that you're not an avid Trump Cultist, because almost everything you write...proves otherwise.




Deepest Sincere Wishes:

TDS

Carl in Tampa

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Originally Posted by (unt

Thank you for revealing in the main forum that you're also a bigot/racist and either an actual card-carrying white supremacist/KKK'er...or at a minimum a sympathizer of them.

I had a strong hunch prior, but you removed all doubt with your post in the 'very disturbing' thread.

I appreciate you proving me correct...again. [emoji106]

At least it's a small comfort, knowing that you're no longer in a position to exercise those abhorrent traits (either overtly or covertly)...so thank goodness for that.

And don't you EVER try to again deny that you're not an avid Trump Cultist, because almost everything you write...proves otherwise.




Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Playing the "If he is conservative, he is a racist" card...

Get used to it Carl, that all she has when you back her in the corner!

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag

Playing the "If he is conservative, he is a racist" card...

Get used to it Carl, that all she has when you back her in the corner!

Backed into what corner? Hell, I'm having a blast watching those who were mostly secret racists/bigots before Trump came along...finally coming out of the closet.

It makes it a whole lot easier identifying them.

I make observations on FACTS...and base my viewpoints on them.

I have never said,nor even implied, that ALL conservatives are racist (with Trump cultists however, the % gets a whole lot higher).

Just like Trump and all of his Cultists, you and your ilk take umbrage and call something 'fake news,' simply because someone had the audacity to actually take the time to point out...what was actually said and/or written and there is a record of it.

Carl made his position very clear, when he tried denigrating BLM and cherry-picking a few of the people calling for cops to be killed (which by ANY standards, is abhorrent), yet just like Trump and the rest of you...he totally ignores/discounts the issues that led to the need for a Black Lives Matter type movement in the first place.

Instead, you try and change the argument by saying 'all lives matter.'

Of course all lives matter...that's NOT what is at issue.

Because it's certainly not young, white males that are being killed or discriminated against..with very little justice.

Instead, you racists and bigots want to focus on the name of the movement...and the few outrageous scumbags calling for retribution killings.

Oh wait, that's right, blacks aren't being killed for little/no reason, whites on the right are constantly calling for changes because of it and cops aren't getting away with it in a lot of cases...how silly of me to forget that.

So please, trying to draw a false equivalency of BLM to white supremicists/neo-nazi's/alt-right is about as ignorant as walking into an Italian restaurant and screeching..."French food matters."

But, if you're a racist or bigot...that doesn't matter to you.


Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

Backed into what corner? Hell, I'm having a blast watching those who were mostly secret racists/bigots before Trump came along...finally coming out of the closet.

It makes it a whole lot easier identifying them.

I make observations on FACTS...and base my viewpoints on them.

I have never said,nor even implied, that ALL conservatives are racist (with Trump cultists however, the % gets a whole lot higher).

Just like Trump and all of his Cultists, you and your ilk take umbrage and call something 'fake news,' simply because someone had the audacity to actually take the time to point out...what was actually said and/or written and there is a record of it.

Carl made his position very clear, when he tried denigrating BLM and cherry-picking a few of the people calling for cops to be killed (which by ANY standards, is abhorrent), yet just like Trump and the rest of you...he totally ignores/discounts the issues that led to the need for a Black Lives Matter type movement in the first place.

Instead, you try and change the argument by saying 'all lives matter.'

Of course all lives matter...that's NOT what is at issue.

Because it's certainly not young, white males that are being killed or discriminated against..with very little justice.

Instead, you racists and bigots want to focus on the name of the movement...and the few outrageous scumbags calling for retribution killings.

Oh wait, that's right, blacks aren't being killed for little/no reason, whites on the right are constantly calling for changes because of it and cops aren't getting away with it in a lot of cases...how silly of me to forget that.

So please, trying to draw a false equivalency of BLM to white supremicists/neo-nazi's/alt-right is about as ignorant as walking into an Italian restaurant and screeching..."French food matters."

But, if you're a racist or bigot...that doesn't matter to you.


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Carl in Tampa