In my first question when I was a new member I asked why the number of people on this web site was so small compared to the number of people who lives in the Villages and realized that many members dont even live in the Villages. In this political sectioln I think that the num ber of people who usually write is very tiny compared to the number of members and even more tiny compared to the number of people in the Villages. Why?

Originally Posted by Quixote

In my first question when I was a new member I asked why the number of people on this web site was so small compared to the number of people who lives in the Villages and realized that many members dont even live in the Villages. In this political sectioln I think that the num ber of people who usually write is very tiny compared to the number of members and even more tiny compared to the number of people in the Villages. Why?

Different people have different interests..... it's even been suggested that some of us who follow the political forum ..."don't have a life"... Me thinks your question was a bit rhetorical... even 'baiting', so, I took the worm.

of any group, no matter how large or small represents an active entity.
Since I am a regular poster to all the forums, but political is my favorite....we are among the few willing to stand up and be counted.
What you see here on this forum is exactly the problem this great country of ours is confronted with. The majority, usually silent on everything, just will not come out and take a stance.

I don't care what the party, race, color, creed....I enjoy every debate, argument, stance....it is the participation that matters.
If we could inspire the silent majority we could make things happen for we the people....that is not likely to happen.

So those of us with the courage of our convictions.....PARTICIPATE!!!!!

We are the ones who, hopefully wil make a difference.

btk

Just like the real Tea Party....The few...the proud...


There is always the 80-20 ratio thing in every group...the 20% doing 80% of the job....

Originally Posted by Quixote

In my first question when I was a new member I asked why the number of people on this web site was so small compared to the number of people who lives in the Villages and realized that many members dont even live in the Villages. In this political sectioln I think that the num ber of people who usually write is very tiny compared to the number of members and even more tiny compared to the number of people in the Villages. Why?

A number of us used to post in political, especially during the elections, basically to offset the mis-information that was being posted by some of the regulars. Now that the election is over, and Obama has WON, no need to interact with those who really aren't on my side of the political fence, so to speak. Its just a waste of time to read the opinions which are poorly researched and just too far fetched to be even believable. And as other have said, some of us have a real life.

The Political Talk Forum is dominated, for the most part, by a relatively small number of like minded dissatisfied individuals. Not necessarily a good or bad thing, but that's the way it is.

No matter the adminstration, there will always be an opposition.

Originally Posted by billethkid

of any group, no matter how large or small represents an active entity.
Since I am a regular poster to all the forums, but political is my favorite....we are among the few willing to stand up and be counted.
What you see here on this forum is exactly the problem this great country of ours is confronted with. The majority, usually silent on everything, just will not come out and take a stance.

I don't care what the party, race, color, creed....I enjoy every debate, argument, stance....it is the participation that matters.
If we could inspire the silent majority we could make things happen for we the people....that is not likely to happen.

So those of us with the courage of our convictions.....PARTICIPATE!!!!!

We are the ones who, hopefully wil make a difference.

btk

I agree. It is a sad state of affairs when someone doesn't participate after their candidate "won". A person of conviction will have an opinion one way or another and try to reason said opinion to his fellow constituents.
There is a an old movie called "12 angry Men." Basically the synopsis is---a jury who thought it was going to be an easy guilty verdict. One guy was a "holdout" and that made the other jurors angry as they wanted to go home because they thought the accused was guilty. The lone juror received the scorn of the others until they dissected the evidence more closely and one by one the jurors finally went to the other side and joined the lone juror who thought the defendant might be innocent.

I would love to see some people with "guts" defend their candidate instead of hiding behind ridicule.

There is much more to the political process than "my candidate - your candidate."

Every day there's new or proposed legislation, a significant event occurs, or there is a twist to something thought resolved. Having an interest in the nation and the world beyond pickleball and $1.75 margaritas (my favorite!) at LSL/SS is one's choice.

So, if one's opinion is that once the election is over and the agent is now in office, that all matters have been now delegated to the agent and shall be personally ignored until the next election, that is one's choice.

Originally Posted by Taj44

A number of us used to post in political, especially during the elections, basically to offset the mis-information that was being posted by some of the regulars. Now that the election is over, and Obama has WON, no need to interact with those who really aren't on my side of the political fence, so to speak. Its just a waste of time to read the opinions which are poorly researched and just too far fetched to be even believable. And as other have said, some of us have a real life.

I am curious under what name you posted during the campaign as I see your join date is January of this year ???

Why do people change names on here...just curious !!

A number of us used to post in political, especially during the elections,

Good catch, Bucco. Sometimes it is not a good idea to post at 12:49 in the morning.

Originally Posted by Taj44

A number of us used to post in political, especially during the elections, basically to offset the mis-information that was being posted by some of the regulars. Its just a waste of time to read the opinions which are poorly researched and just too far fetched to be even believable. And as other have said, some of us have a real life.

Ok.......I'll play. Your criticism about poor research by "regulars" seems to forgive the fact that the link you provided for your hit on American Healthcare in an earlier post was a bit outdated. I read it and it says that all the statistics are from 1991. Ahh....excuse me sport....that would be 18 years ago. Right....I know.....time flies. A cursory check of the end notes of the reference for your stunning research revelations and submission reveals that much information is based on material published in the 70's. Even the later references barely reflect anything past the early and mid-nineties. Were rose colored glasses popular in the seventies? A check of the authors shows a pattern also. I won't go there. You get the point about your criticisms of "poor" research by "regulars". Do you believe the NYTIMES is an impartial, objective, unbiased purveyor of news and opinion?

So much for the obligatory relevance connection to the political forum to keep the TOTV administrators at arms length.

Regarding the second assault on "getting a life"....with cavalier arrogance, you and your friend infer that your lives are richer because you don't post with the regulars. That elitist attitude belies the fact that you don't know anything about the people you think need to get lives like yours and/or you don't have anything to contribute except ad hominem criticism.

I golf at least 3 days a week, play organized softball and work out at least 3 days a week. To compliment my quest for physical fitness, I have said before that I find excursions into TOTV mentally stimulating as this post suggests. You have to take care of your mind as well as your body. A bonus includes creatively interacting with really decent, insightful TOTV neighbors regardless of their perspectives. The laughs and exposure to a variety of opinions, even yours, are worth the occasional grinch who prefers insults to interaction.

We enjoy bicycle riding and socializing throughout our beautiful Village. I enjoy long rides through horse country with my wife on my Harley Road King Classic(that's a motorcycle). I enjoy flying with my wife, she's a licensed pilot. I write articles for professional journals and sportfishing magazines. They are as diverse as fishing in Costa Rica to converting from gas to diesel. We have plans to bonefish in The Abacos and challenge the rare and beautiful striped marlin in Cabo San Lucas. I should add I am an active member of two fishing conservation organizations and accordingly release unharmed any "catch" we make that doesn't wind up as table fare.

In the summer and early fall, I run my sportfisherman (that's a boat) chasing tuna, marlin and an assortment of pelagic species in the bluewater canyons off of Jersey, Maryland, Virginia and North Carolina.

You might catch me in the town squares if Rocky and the Rollers, Caribbean Chillers, Silver Star Band, Mary Jo Vitale or the Lenny Wilson Trio are playing. I have eclectic tastes in music. There's much more but that's all you need to know. Just as I have no idea where life's road has taken you...I'm sure its been impressive....you have no idea where my life or the lives of any TOTV members have taken them. I am fascinated by the diversity and wealth of experience they offer by posting.

I used to enjoy combat target shooting but can't find the time. I would like to play water volleyball and ride in a polo match but, I guess I spend too much time posting with my friends and neighbors, on both sides of the aisle, in TOTV. Hmmmm......yeah.....their worth it....I'm happy they continue to be a part of my "mundane" 68 year old life.

Thank you for the challenge and the mental exercise...I'm going to get a life with a few "honey do" chores now....ok honey...I'll clean up my workbench as soon as I finish this post.

rshoffer....yeah...I know....I took the bait too.

Originally Posted by BobKat1

The Political Talk Forum is dominated, for the most part, by a relatively small number of like minded dissatisfied individuals. Not necessarily a good or bad thing, but that's the way it is.

No matter the adminstration, there will always be an opposition.

Sometimes this forum resembles a Rush Limbaugh echo-chamber.

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

Sometimes this forum resembles a Rush Limbaugh echo-chamber.

To quote Cabo35, "The laughs and exposure to a variety of opinions, even yours, are worth the occasional grinch who prefers insults to interaction."

All some people offer are links and ridicule.

Originally Posted by cabo35

Ok.......I'll play. Your criticism about poor research by "regulars" seems to forgive the fact that the link you provided for your hit on American Healthcare in an earlier post was a bit outdated. I read it and it says that all the statistics are from 1991. Ahh....excuse me sport....that would be 18 years ago. Right....I know.....time flies. A cursory check of the end notes of the stunning revelations on the reference for your research and submission reveals that much information is based on material published in the 70's. Even the later references barely reflect anything past the early and mid-nineties. Were rose colored glasses popular in the seventies? A check of the authors shows a pattern also. I won't go there. You get the point about your criticisms of "poor" research by "regulars". Do you believe the NYTIMES is an impartial, objective, unbiased purveyor of news and opinion?

So much for the obligatory relevance connection to the political forum to keep the TOTV administrators at arms length.

Regarding the second assault on "getting a life"....with cavalier arrogance, you and your friend infer that your lives are richer because you don't post with the regulars. That elitist attitude belies the fact that you don't know anything about the people you think need to get lives like yours and/or you don't have anything to contribute except ad hominem criticism.

I golf at least 3 days a week, play organized softball and work out at least 3 days a week. To compliment my quest for physical fitness, I have said before that I find excursions into TOTV mentally stimulating as this post suggests. You have to take care of your mind as well as your body. A bonus includes creatively interacting with really decent, insightful TOTV neighbors regardless of their perspectives. The laughs and exposure to a variety of opinions, even yours, are worth the occasional grinch who prefers insults to interaction.

We enjoy bicycle riding and socializing throughout our beautiful Village. I enjoy long rides through horse country with my wife on my Harley Road King Classic(that's a motorcycle). I enjoy flying with my wife, she's a licensed pilot. I write articles for professional journals and sportfishing magazines. They are as diverse as fishing in Costa Rica to converting from gas to diesel. We have plans to bonefish in The Abacos and challenge the rare and beautiful striped marlin in Cabo San Lucas. I should add I am an active member of two fishing conservation organizations and accordingly release unharmed any "catch" we make that doesn't wind up as table fare.

In the summer and early fall, I run my sportfisherman (that's a boat) chasing tuna, marlin and an assortment of pelagic species in the bluewater canyons off of Jersey, Maryland, Virginia and North Carolina.

You might catch me in the town squares if Rocky and the Rollers, Caribbean Chillers, Silver Star Band, Mary Jo Vitale or the Lenny Wilson Trio are playing. I have eclectic tastes in music. There's much more but that's all you need to know. Just as I have no idea where life's road has taken you...I'm sure its been impressive....you have no idea where my life or the lives of any TOTV members have taken them. I am fascinated by the diversity and wealth of experience they offer by posting.

I used to enjoy combat target shooting but can't find the time. I would like to play water volleyball and ride in a polo match but, I guess I spend too much time posting with my friends and neighbors, on both sides of the aisle, in TOTV. Hmmmm......yeah.....their worth it....I'm happy they continue to be a part of my "mundane" 68 year old life.

Thank you for the challenge and the mental exercise...I'm going to get a life with a few "honey do" chores now....ok honey...I'll clean up my workbench as soon as I finish this post.

rshoffer....yeah...I know....I took the bait too.

Excellent post Cabo......The talent and expertise on this forum continues to amaze me.

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

Sometimes this forum resembles a Rush Limbaugh echo-chamber.

Now THAT is funny...