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Old 03-20-2016, 09:20 AM
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There is no question that Clinton is guilty. The question is if anyone else associated with such guilt is covered enough to allow her to be prosecuted. In other words, is Obama and other big wig elites sufficiently protected when she attempts to bring them all down with her, like she threatened. She knows she is guilty. Otherwise, why would she threaten others and why would she emphasize the same repetitious statement that "I did not transmit or receive any emails that were MARKED classified? Like she knew the information was classified, but it wasn't marked. That way, she could adamantly state that she did not lie, when she is found guilty and arrested.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:38 AM
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I vote based on ideology. Not based on good looks, speaking ability, color or gender. I don't know you either, and you may be a serial liar. I don't vote for what the candidate offers me, either. I vote for the one that best seems to care about the condition of the country. AND, I am not foolish enough to throw my vote away on principle. Do you think that voting for Micky Mouse on principle means anything to anyone but you? NO. No one cares, and it will not stop one of two from being elected. Might as well vote for the lesser of two evils, or the best of the worst and hope for the best.
Listen...ANY candidate that runs under either the D or R party banner, with their blessing, is a bought and paid for "tool" that works for their party and the corporations. Period. There is no "ideology" for them except power and money. Period.

You may find a 3rd party or an independent with an ideology, but not any of the D or R candidates.

What's with the rest of your post? All this Micky Mouse crap? Who said anything about voting for Micky Mouse? Vote for a 3rd party or independent.

They've defeated you before you even go to vote. You've resolved yourself that what YOU want doesn't matter. It does, it's the most important thing you can do, vote for whom YOU want to win.

Hope for the best? It'll NEVER happen because they work for them. You have 1 lousy vote, it's not going to change anything alone. Your vote for a 3rd party won't change anything. But if EVERYONE did, it would.

How can people be so blind as not to see that they place "their guy" on the ballot, it's fixed, and you WON'T change it.

Trump isn't the answer either, he's in with the bankers.

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That's logical.
Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:08 AM
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Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".
I was being sarcastic and it went over your head.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:10 AM
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[QUOTE=Guest;1201317Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".[/QUOTE]
Now I get it--you were being sarcastic with me and it went over my head. I apologize, I feel ashamed.
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:00 PM
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Listen...ANY candidate that runs under either the D or R party banner, with their blessing, is a bought and paid for "tool" that works for their party and the corporations. Period. There is no "ideology" for them except power and money. Period.

You may find a 3rd party or an independent with an ideology, but not any of the D or R candidates.

What's with the rest of your post? All this Micky Mouse crap? Who said anything about voting for Micky Mouse? Vote for a 3rd party or independent.

They've defeated you before you even go to vote. You've resolved yourself that what YOU want doesn't matter. It does, it's the most important thing you can do, vote for whom YOU want to win.

Hope for the best? It'll NEVER happen because they work for them. You have 1 lousy vote, it's not going to change anything alone. Your vote for a 3rd party won't change anything. But if EVERYONE did, it would.

How can people be so blind as not to see that they place "their guy" on the ballot, it's fixed, and you WON'T change it.

Trump isn't the answer either, he's in with the bankers.



Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".
You are kidding right? No one with any semblance of a brain would think that they are contributing by doing nothing. I would use some derogatory terms to describe my derision for you, but that would be deemed nasty and insulting. But, I am glad of one thing that I have learned from you. I have always thought that some folks should not be allowed to vote, because of their ignorance. You confirmed my theory and I am glad that you won't be voting for anyone viable for the position. Your wasted vote is just fine with me. Hope you get an immense satisfaction either not voting or voting for yourself. .................
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There is no question that Clinton is guilty. The question is if anyone else associated with such guilt is covered enough to allow her to be prosecuted. In other words, is Obama and other big wig elites sufficiently protected when she attempts to bring them all down with her, like she threatened. She knows she is guilty. Otherwise, why would she threaten others and why would she emphasize the same repetitious statement that "I did not transmit or receive any emails that were MARKED classified? Like she knew the information was classified, but it wasn't marked. That way, she could adamantly state that she did not lie, when she is found guilty and arrested.
Another expert on the law. Lol.
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:21 PM
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Another expert on the law. Lol.
It doesn't take an expert of the law to know what your job is, and the laws and rules that guide that job. I do know more about classified information handling than Hillary, but that is also obvious. If you want the laws/codes she violated and form numbers of the documents that she signed under oath, I can provide them AGAIN. I have provided them on here several times already, but either you are just being an @ss or you haven't been on here much.

To say that I know more than she does, may be that I have had more training and handled classified longer than her. I know for instance that TS material does not leave a SCIF. I also know that there are special handling restrictions on moving classified information out of a secured facility. Classified information is handled with more caution than the chain of custody of trial evidence.

But, you can defend her all you want. She might even get off scott free, which would not be a surprise. But, she IS a criminal whether convicted or not.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:18 AM
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You are kidding right? No one with any semblance of a brain would think that they are contributing by doing nothing. I would use some derogatory terms to describe my derision for you, but that would be deemed nasty and insulting. But, I am glad of one thing that I have learned from you. I have always thought that some folks should not be allowed to vote, because of their ignorance. You confirmed my theory and I am glad that you won't be voting for anyone viable for the position. Your wasted vote is just fine with me. Hope you get an immense satisfaction either not voting or voting for yourself. .................
You THINK you're clever. You're being played. Your vote is the wasted vote because both the D and R parties are corrupt. Go ahead little lamb, do as you're told. Pick either one of the corrupt candidates that have been hand selected to steal from you.

I do get immense satisfaction knowing that at least I voted for whom "I" wanted, not some bought and paid for liar that is going to steal from all of us and give it to their "donors". You bitch and complain, yet you won't do anything to change things. Baaah baaah
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:01 AM
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All I can say is when someone throws rocks like the above....a person who belongs to a party that has as it's major choice to represent them in a presidential race....a felon.....a liar....an incompetent....professed continuation of Obama's reign....untrustworthy....self centered....unqualified....past her prime (if there ever was one)....whose only ohter claim to fame is being married to Slick Willie......

you really are high on the sauce....
you are a radical, no matter what partisan....
you have no idea what you just said.....

playing it safe would be all the above.
Love when people show their lack of intelligence. Congratulations.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:59 AM
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Love when people show their lack of intelligence. Congratulations.
Other than getting your spelling correct, what did YOU show with that comment?
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:05 AM
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You THINK you're clever. You're being played. Your vote is the wasted vote because both the D and R parties are corrupt. Go ahead little lamb, do as you're told. Pick either one of the corrupt candidates that have been hand selected to steal from you.

I do get immense satisfaction knowing that at least I voted for whom "I" wanted, not some bought and paid for liar that is going to steal from all of us and give it to their "donors". You bitch and complain, yet you won't do anything to change things. Baaah baaah
I won't call you stupid, because it wouldn't be nice. However, you are not showing an iota of intelligence. But, I can see that your motive for such idiotic rhetoric is your need for attention.

It's obvious that you are baiting with your ridiculous remarks. Being played? They're both corrupt? You get satisfaction from voting for no one? How charming. Such a little mind and yet you still waste what there is of it. Perhaps you should have listened to your momma when she told you that you would go blind if you continued that behavior.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:45 AM
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I won't call you stupid, because it wouldn't be nice. However, you are not showing an iota of intelligence. But, I can see that your motive for such idiotic rhetoric is your need for attention.

It's obvious that you are baiting with your ridiculous remarks. Being played? They're both corrupt? You get satisfaction from voting for no one? How charming. Such a little mind and yet you still waste what there is of it. Perhaps you should have listened to your momma when she told you that you would go blind if you continued that behavior.
Baaahhh baaahhh...off to your shearing.
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Baaahhh baaahhh...off to your shearing.
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:47 AM
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... from an active political scientist (not me...):

Candidates know things about each other that the rest of us will never know. Remember what they say about each other. Yes, of course it's political grandstanding, and each hopes to win, but we know before anything is definite that the losers of each party will support the winner of the respective party.

So, remember what they say about each other, because there are truths there that we would not otherwise know. This applies to both parties. Hillary carries the baggage of her husband, no matter what, and she cannot escape it. Rubio, like Obama, has had little experience other than a few years as a US senator, for those who complained all along that Obama didn't have the experience for the presidency. These are just two examples.

The political health of our country is at stake. For those who say that this is business as usual, they may be right. But we at least can be as conscious as we can about who will ultimately be our candidates, and listening to them campaigning is important in knowing not only them but their opponents as well....
Donald Trump threatens to 'spill the beans' on Ted Cruz's wife Heidi - CNNPolitics.com

I agree with this point of view. The above is not a healthy for politics in general. It does keep people engaged.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:18 PM
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Do we want Bill Clinton to influence the affairs of this country again. Then another scandal like before . No. And can Trump really be any worse than what we have. Maybe but then maybe not.
The one and only real scandal was sex in the White House. But the Republicans spent millions of dollars investigating White Water, Hillary's stock trades and Vincent Fosters suicide....I could go on.

Now during this administration we have had lawsuits and blocking most, if not all bills and court justices.

Judge not: GOP blocks dozens of Obama court picks - POLITICO

Not to mention the pocket veto the Repub.'s love so much.

Now even the Repub.'s have to deal with the Freedom Caucus comprised of 40 Tea Party congressman who oppose everything in the House.

The one and only reason I do not wish to vote for Hillary is the prospect of 8 years of investigations.

As for Trump the United States of America has held true to a policy against Torture until George W Bush,his Attorney General approval, started water boarding.

Clearly I wish the GWB never attacked a country that had NOT attacked the USA. Then perhaps my nephew would not be heading to the Middle East for a 7 month tour. This would make 4 nephews fighting in the middle east multiple times and 1 Purple Heart.

Hoping my family does not collect another!
 

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