Originally Posted by coralway

Why should we be outraged? The Supreme Courts says it is free speech.

I really don't see why a person, or a group of persons, or a coproration, or any other entity should be limited in giving whatever they choose to the candidate of their choice.

Why should the government limit contributions. I am especially puzzled by the Cons reactions to these Super Pacs.

After all, it is always the Cons whinning about the government interferring in our lives. But now, they want the government to dictate how much a coproration or PAC can contribute to a candidate?

isn't this an issue that pres obama flip-flopped on or 'evolved' away from? didn't he say he would not accept super pac $ once upon a time? and i think i recall that he even gave the supreme court 'what for' on several occassions.

so after obama went whining and ranting about the inappropriateness of such funding, he eventually saw the light and did an about face as soon as the $ was promised to him...and even told his peeps that it was okay to raise fund for one!

back then citizens united = bad but now priorities usa = okay...hmmmmm

Originally Posted by buggyone

The statement of " People don't give away money for nothing they expect something in return even those who donate to charities." has me completely baffled and I would like to hear back from that poster.

I volunteer at the Christian Food Pantry in Lady Lake and it is heartwarming to see the amount of both food and money that comes in from donations. I offer donation receipts to the donors but most say they do not want them.

The "something in return" you are talking about for donations may just be the good feeling you give yourself when helping others. If that is it, I agree.

hafta wonder if those doing the donating are simply hoping the donations help them move up a few rows closer to the front in heaven.

It is possible some do it for that reason. By faith you are saved and not by works. I remember that from my Lutheran catechism classes.

The Obama Super PAC Ad Makes a Mockery of Campaign-Finance Laws - David A. Graham - Politics - The Atlantic

Originally Posted by ilovetv

The Obama Super PAC Ad Makes a Mockery of Campaign-Finance Laws - David A. Graham - Politics - The Atlantic

Super Pacs.....not a great thing but when you limit direct donations....

Like the President who was against them before he flip flopped, sorry EVOLVED it is a tough thing. But he is a brilliant politician who doesnt care much about truth, so it will work to his advantage.

As he told Rv Wright....problem is "your need to tell the truth all the time"...it can be annoying

...is how the campaign contributions, both to the super pacs as well as to the candidate's campaign funds themselves will be used.

It's abundantly clear that the political advisors to both presidential candidates have told them that negative advertising is where most of the money should be spent...because negative advertising works! The public is far more easily influenced by negative advertising than any intelligent discussion and debate of the issues facing the county.

The result is very likely to be that both candidates will badly injure each other during the pre-election campaigning. One will be elected, of course. But by the time the votes are counted and an inauguration held, our elected president may already be so hated and distrusted by a significant proportion of the electorate to render his ability to lead both the government and the people quite ineffective. All as the result of personal attacks in negative advertising and campaigning.

What a way to run a country.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

...is how the campaign contributions, both to the super pacs as well as to the candidate's campaign funds themselves will be used.

It's abundantly clear that the political advisors to both presidential candidates have told them that negative advertising is where most of the money should be spent...because negative advertising works! The public is far more easily influenced by negative advertising than any intelligent discussion and debate of the issues facing the county.

The result is very likely to be that both candidates will badly injure each other during the pre-election campaigning. One will be elected, of course. But by the time the votes are counted and an inauguration held, our elected president may already be so hated and distrusted by a significant proportion of the electorate to render his ability to lead both the government and the people quite ineffective. All as the result of personal attacks in negative advertising and campaigning.

What a way to run a country.

Would make it a bit better if the negative ads were actually true !!

Originally Posted by Bucco

Would make it a bit better if the negative ads were actually true !!

And, of course, they will be true about Obama but patently false about Romney.....right?

Originally Posted by DaleMN

And, of course, they will be true about Obama but patently false about Romney.....right?

If you read else where on here I said that I "HOPED" Romney would keep it honest.

Because I oppose Obama and his policies does not a Republican make me....I am anti Obama but I am aware enough to know about both parties, thus you will alway see me posting anti Obama, except when I agree and then I will post that which I have, but you will not see me do what some on here do and feel their party is perfection.

Yeah, Obama lies..very much and very often and does it naturally and well, but both parties either out and out lie or certainly exaggerate in these ads.

The system is broken. Our Reps are extremely well compensated. They may spend only three days a week on-the-job, leaving Monday and Friday as travel days, and are out-of-session for extended periods for holidays and summer. They put in fewer hours than your grandchild in kindergarten and it seems they accomplish nothing. Still they find plenty of time for fundraising events and cold calling.

Public Radio provided a good picture. Sen. Dick Durbin said "Most Americans would be shocked — not surprised, shocked — if they knew how much time a U.S. Senator spends raising money". They can spend hours a day fundraising at the phone banks across the street from the capital. They may need to raise $10,000/day and spend hours a day at the call center. Fascinating, give it a listen:

This American Life - Take the Money and Run for Office.