Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

If President Obama gets re-elected my faith in the American voter will take a serious hit....

Regardless of who is elected, Figmo, I don't think anyone's faith should take a hit as the result. Our system is supposed to be a democracy and whichever candidate is elected will be the result of a process. The majority will dictate the result.

Now if you want to lose faith in the process by which our election is being run this time around, I'd be right there with you. The virtually unlimited amounts of campaign money from special interests, super PAC's, endless negative advertising, proportional voting and a year-long campaign has lead to clearly unqualified or candidates, some with frighteningly narrow ideologies, running and remaining in the race for no other reason than to damage other candidates and confusing the electorate, I'll admit that I've ALREADY lost faith in that process.

We'll wind up with someone being elected as POTUS. But whether the process used to elect that person attracted the best and brightest candidates, and resulted in a fair and accurate vote by a well-informed electorate is seriously in doubt. The process is what we should lose faith in. I pretty much already have.

To a Republican, the scariest words are, "I have a new idea!"

Originally Posted by buggyone

Bucco, you may think that Mitt is the best thing since sliced bread but you have to admit that Bain Capital was a corporate raider. He killed jobs and did not create new ones for every one that was destroyed. I am not making this stuff up. Just read the link by one of the Republicans and you see I am not alone in calling him a corporate raider and depending on which side of the employment structure you are on - does a person with good morals and business scruples engage in this kind of work?

Romney Depicted as Corporate Raider in Pro-Gingrich Group Film - Businessweek

I am sure Mitt is honest but an honest person can still be an unscrupulous businessman.

I never once said I was supporting Romney, although that is my lean considering the other candidates, but he has EXPERIENCE and with that comes warts....that is just how life is. When you are involved with so many functions and hold that many executive positions, you will make enemies and unpopular decisions....you can book that and if you call him unscrupulous because someone who opposes him says that, fine..your right to do that. I think having that experience both good and bad is what makes a good candidate. One of the reasons I opposed our current President was just that....absolutely no experience whatsoever in running anything at all.

But as long as people read BOTH sides of a person, that is why we have elections...I will never condemn anyone for voting anyway they want if they have done their due diligence and have an informed opinion based on all facts and NOT JUST SELECTED FACTS, either their selection or what it is in most cases, facts selected for them from bias sources.

If we have a PERFECT man running, as you think the current guy is and was, you better look twice because that does not exist !!!!

I might add that a link by Gingerich does not, to me anyway, qualify as a non bias view

Originally Posted by buggyone

Yes, I would say that Romney is an unscrupulous businessman. However, just ask any person of a company that Romney's company took over, raided, sold all assets, and fired the employees while claiming a paper loss and gaining corporate wealth if that is a man with scruples or not.

You folks don't have a clue on how the private equity business works, or the broader economic benefits it can provide. Romney and his firm produced excellent results for their investors. In the process, they created thousands more jobs than were eliminated. Were they tough owner/managers? Yes. We're they dishonest, immoral or unscrupulous? No one has made that allegation with any kind of empirical support.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Regardless of who is elected, Figmo, I don't think anyone's faith should take a hit as the result. Our system is supposed to be a democracy and whichever candidate is elected will be the result of a process. The majority will dictate the result.

Now if you want to lose faith in the process by which our election is being run this time around, I'd be right there with you. The virtually unlimited amounts of campaign money from special interests, super PAC's, endless negative advertising, proportional voting and a year-long campaign has lead to clearly unqualified or candidates, some with frighteningly narrow ideologies, running and remaining in the race for no other reason than to damage other candidates and confusing the electorate, I'll admit that I've ALREADY lost faith in that process.

We'll wind up with someone being elected as POTUS. But whether the process used to elect that person attracted the best and brightest candidates, and resulted in a fair and accurate vote by a well-informed electorate is seriously in doubt. The process is what we should lose faith in. I pretty much already have.

I always jump at the chance to agree with you VK and here I do, and would add the horrible media !

But your line...

"But whether the process used to elect that person attracted the best and brightest candidates, and resulted in a fair and accurate vote by a well-informed electorate is seriously in doubt."

IS PERFECT

Originally Posted by Bucco

I never once said I was supporting Romney, although that is my lean considering the other candidates, but he has EXPERIENCE and with that comes warts....that is just how life is. When you are involved with so many functions and hold that many executive positions, you will make enemies and unpopular decisions....you can book that and if you call him unscrupulous because someone who opposes him says that, fine..your right to do that. I think having that experience both good and bad is what makes a good candidate. One of the reasons I opposed our current President was just that....absolutely no experience whatsoever in running anything at all.

But as long as people read BOTH sides of a person, that is why we have elections...I will never condemn anyone for voting anyway they want if they have done their due diligence and have an informed opinion based on all facts and NOT JUST SELECTED FACTS, either their selection or what it is in most cases, facts selected for them from bias sources.

If we have a PERFECT man running, as you think the current guy is and was, you better look twice because that does not exist !!!!

I might add that a link by Gingerich does not, to me anyway, qualify as a non bias view

Drop off all the negative stuff about our commander in chief and this is a good post. Thanks for supporting Romney.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

Drop off all the negative stuff about our commander in chief and this is a good post. Thanks for supporting Romney.

I can say WHAT I want in anyway I WANT....you are the one who espouses that and told me that is the way it is.

And the great thing you taught me...it can be vile, personal and insulting.....as long as I dont agree with their politics...I need no other reason to call anyone a name....I thank you again for your guidance

Originally Posted by Bucco

I can say WHAT I want in anyway I WANT....you are the one who espouses that and told me that is the way it is.

And the great thing you taught me...it can be vile, personal and insulting.....as long as I dont agree with their politics...I need no other reason to call anyone a name....I thank you again for your guidance

Point taken Bucco.