The Tea Partiers will make any false claim to scare seniors into thinking that their doctors will get out of the system due to Affordable Care Act.

Sure, some doctors will retire. This happens every year since doctors get older like we do and also like to retire. There are young new doctors coming into the healthcare system each year, too. No one is going to have a hard time finding a doctor. There is even some government plan that will help new doctors pay part of their schooling if they agree to practice medicine in understaffed areas. I personally know of one who did this in a rural part of Iowa.

Look around The Villages. Scads of doctors of all specialties. Also, lots are from countries like India or Pakistan. No problem with those doctors. They all have lots of patients and get high recommendations just like the American doctors.

Shame on the Tea Party for trying to scare seniors.

Originally Posted by buggyone

The Tea Partiers will make any false claim to scare seniors into thinking that their doctors will get out of the system due to Affordable Care Act.

Sure, some doctors will retire. This happens every year since doctors get older like we do and also like to retire. There are young new doctors coming into the healthcare system each year, too. No one is going to have a hard time finding a doctor. There is even some government plan that will help new doctors pay part of their schooling if they agree to practice medicine in understaffed areas. I personally know of one who did this in a rural part of Iowa.

Look around The Villages. Scads of doctors of all specialties. Also, lots are from countries like India or Pakistan. No problem with those doctors. They all have lots of patients and get high recommendations just like the American doctors.

Shame on the Tea Party for trying to scare seniors.

I agree with this, though I don't really blame the members of the tea party, most of whom have no idea what is in the AHCA or how it will truly affect them. It is shameful that a few people with a political and sefish agenda spend millions of dollars and hours of airtime to convince and scare people who are already wary of government and particularly the President.

That's what the Tea Party is all about; playing on fear and believing in implausible conspiracies. It is surely not your forefather's tea party.

Can't wait to see these same people running around with their vouchers, if Mitt Romney is elected, trying to buy health care and being denied coverage because they have pre-existing conditions and Romney repealed the ACA.

I deleted a completed response to support my earlier comments and then thought what the heck are you doing? what you are doing is getting caught up in that child's game of "Is So" Is Not".

I googled the affects of ObamaCare and there were so many links defending and rejecting ObamaCare that I thought it is no wonder there is so much confusion i guess nancy Pelosi had it right when she said "We do 't know what the bill says until after we pass it." Well we still don't know? For instance the CBO expects the loss of employer coverage to be 11 million, CMS Office iof the Actuary 14 million, The Lawin Group 17.2 million and American Action forum 35 million

What we do know is that the CBO raised ACA's projection for its 10 year implementation from 900 billion to 2.6 trillion. what we do know is that the government is notorious for missing projection. what we do know is that government ignores budgets because it has an inexhaustible source of money taxes and or the printing press. What we do know is that the day ObamaCare was decided by the Supreme Court hospital stocks went through the roof. Why not taxes are a guarantee making these stocks practically a life long annuity.

Sole practioners will give up individual practice and sign on to hospitals as explained in one of the google citations and some will just leave medicine

I understand that some on this thread have the opinion that those non-supporters rely on EUC's but this is one person in oppostion watched Obama throw every organization that supported his ambition to pass ObamaCare under the bus. They supported him not because it was good for the country but their pocketbooks..Big Pharma comes to mind and so does AARP because they knew ObamaCare meant that Medicare Advantage would no longer exist and they could move in to take its place.

It is the nature of business and hence people to adapt in order to survive. Taxpayers/medical patients both must ask themselves but how does this all affect me? At the risk of being once again accused of EUC's I'll just say I opine you decide.

Originally Posted by rubicon

I deleted a completed response to support my earlier comments and then thought what the heck are you doing? what you are doing is getting caught up in that child's game of "Is So" Is Not".

I googled the affects of ObamaCare and there were so many links defending and rejecting ObamaCare that I thought it is no wonder there is so much confusion i guess nancy Pelosi had it right when she said "We do 't know what the bill says until after we pass it." Well we still don't know? For instance the CBO expects the loss of employer coverage to be 11 million, CMS Office iof the Actuary 14 million, The Lawin Group 17.2 million and American Action forum 35 million

What we do know is that the CBO raised ACA's projection for its 10 year implementation from 900 billion to 2.6 trillion. what we do know is that the government is notorious for missing projection. what we do know is that government ignores budgets because it has an inexhaustible source of money taxes and or the printing press. What we do know is that the day ObamaCare was decided by the Supreme Court hospital stocks went through the roof. Why not taxes are a guarantee making these stocks practically a life long annuity.

Sole practioners will give up individual practice and sign on to hospitals as explained in one of the google citations and some will just leave medicine

I understand that some on this thread have the opinion that those non-supporters rely on EUC's but this is one person in oppostion watched Obama through every organization that supported his ambition to pass ObamaCare under the bus. They supported him not because it was good for the country but their pocketbooks..Big Pharma comes to mind and so does AARP because they knew ObamaCare meant that Medicare Advantage would no longer exist and they could move in to take its place.

It is the nature of business and hence people to adapt in order to survive. Taxpayers/medical patients both must ask themselves but how does this all affect me? At the risk of being once again accused of EUC's I'll just say I opine you decide.

Glad you decided to post it. I can't tell for sure, but it sounds like you are seriously looking at the elements of ACA, and realize that EUCs are simply emotional responses, hardly a satisfactory way of building a case of yea or nay.

But a few comments in this thoughtful post still make it clear how much you despise President Obama and how that colors your position on whether or not he has done some good things.

Maybe you might try what I'm doing. Think of voting for Obama like I'm thinking about voting for Romney. Forget your biases. Look for positive reasons to support the candidate. There's still four months before we have to decide.

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Glad you decided to post it. I can't tell for sure, but it sounds like you are seriously looking at the elements of ACA, and realize that EUCs are simply emotional responses, hardly a satisfactory way of building a case of yea or nay.

But a few comments in this thoughtful post still make it clear how much you despise President Obama and how that colors your position on whether or not he has done some good things.

Maybe you might try what I'm doing. Think of voting for Obama like I'm thinking about voting for Romney. Forget your biases. Look for positive reasons to support the candidate. There's still four months before we have to decide.

What outstanding advice! Very wise

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Glad you decided to post it. I can't tell for sure, but it sounds like you are seriously looking at the elements of ACA, and realize that EUCs are simply emotional responses, hardly a satisfactory way of building a case of yea or nay.

But a few comments in this thoughtful post still make it clear how much you despise President Obama and how that colors your position on whether or not he has done some good things.

Maybe you might try what I'm doing. Think of voting for Obama like I'm thinking about voting for Romney. Forget your biases. Look for positive reasons to support the candidate. There's still four months before we have to decide.

ijustluvit: I congratulate your optimistic view. However givenObama's profile and given his ideology which he made clear before he was elected it was a certainty that he did not represent what I believe a president should be.
so that there is no misunderstanding. I would vote for a Thomas sowell, colin Powell, Condi Rice in a New York second. But an Obama, Pelosi, Biden Reid, Schummer never.

Originally Posted by rubicon

ijustluvit: I congratulate your optimistic view. However givenObama's profile and given his ideology which he made clear before he was elected it was a certainty that he did not represent what I believe a president should be.
so that there is no misunderstanding. I would vote for a Thomas sowell, colin Powell, Condi Rice in a New York second. But an Obama, Pelosi, Biden Reid, Schummer never.

May I ask though, might you vote for the moderate Romney? If so, will you do it as a reaction to your strong opposition to Obama, or because you think Romney embraces your ideology? Thanks.