Give Obama credit for having come a long, long way.

When he was a senator he voted against raising the debt ceiling … meaning, he used to be a terrorist!

It’s something I’ve never seen in national politics.

It is that nobody loves Obama. This is amazing because every president has people who love him, who feel deep personal affection or connection, who have a stubborn, even beautiful refusal to let what they know are just criticisms affect their feelings of regard. At the height of Bill Clinton’s troubles there were always people who’d say, “Look, I love the guy.” They’d often be smiling—a wry smile, a shrugging smile. Nobody smiles when they talk about Mr. Obama. There were people who loved George W. Bush when he was at his most unpopular, and they meant it and would say it. But people aren’t that way about Mr. Obama. He has supporters and bundlers and contributors, he has voters, he may win. But his support is grim support.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...336602248.html

Originally Posted by Bucco

....My question for VK.....someone asked you this earlier and I didnt catch any response....you seem to save yourself an out when you say you wont vote for incumbents....by saying DEPENDS on who the Republicans nominate...and that actually makes sense, but my question to you is this.....Obama versus a Repub you cannot support...do you abstain on the vote for President ?

My wife and I have agreed, neither of us will vote for Obama as we both did in 2008.

From that point we differ...and yet agree. Neither of us would vote for either Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin (both are so far out on the right fringe that we both believe that all either would accomplish is another four years of partisan acrimony). I would vote for Mitt Romney, she won't (she was really put off by Romney seeking political safety and not taking any position on the debt ceiling debate). But neither of us think he'd ever get conservative Christian support for the nomination anyway. She might vote for Rick Perry, I won't (anyone who relies principally on prayer to solve economic problems and the issues of state isn't for me).

So where does that leave us? I had forgotten until my wife reminded me--in two previous Presidential elections she was so put off by the available candidates, she wrote my name in. Hmmm, maybe I'll get two votes!

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Do you think that 97% of the blacks that voted for Obama gave it second thought?

Yeah - those "darkies" all hang together...just like strange fruit. Do you bleach your sheet before you put it on or after?

Originally Posted by harbor53

Yeah - those "darkies" all hang together...just like strange fruit. Do you bleach your sheet before you put it on or after?

Oh, he comes out at night. Sorry, but the polls said that the blacks voted for Obama over 90%. Look it up, Mr. Personality.

Originally Posted by harbor53

Yeah - those "darkies" all hang together...just like strange fruit. Do you bleach your sheet before you put it on or after?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html


You don't have a clue, do you?

I may not "have a clue" but, I can recognize racism when I see it, Herr Himmler.

Originally Posted by harbor53

I may not "have a clue" but, I can recognize racism when I see it, Herr Himmler.

Pointing out the exit poll data that showed that an incredible 96% of a racial group voted for someone of their own race is racist?

Is taking that exit poll by the news media racist?

Or would it be the local conclusion, by even the most casual observer, that the 96% to 4% margin of votes by "African-Americans" for an "African-American" candidate must be the result of "racial voting", racist?

Or is it that you just like to call people you disagree with names you think shames them, and that you think that will silence them? (Except it kind of backfires here, actually)

Originally Posted by harbor53

I may not "have a clue" but, I can recognize racism when I see it, Herr Himmler.

All I said is that over 95% of blacks voted for Obama. What is it with you liberals that you can not look at the numbers? There is no racism in numbers.Have you noticed that I have an opportunity to call you names and have taken the high road?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Pointing out the exit poll data that showed that an incredible 96% of a racial group voted for someone of their own race is racist?

Is taking that exit poll by the news media racist?

Or would it be the local conclusion, by even the most casual observer, that the 96% to 4% margin of votes by "African-Americans" for an "African-American" candidate must be the result of "racial voting", racist?

Or is it that you just like to call people you disagree with names you think shames them, and that you think that will silence them? (Except it kind of backfires here, actually)

Yup, facts do not lie. I guess this individual did not get the memo that the racist card does not apply anymore.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Pointing out the exit poll data that showed that an incredible 96% of a racial group voted for someone of their own race is racist?

Is taking that exit poll by the news media racist?

Or would it be the local conclusion, by even the most casual observer, that the 96% to 4% margin of votes by "African-Americans" for an "African-American" candidate must be the result of "racial voting", racist?

Or is it that you just like to call people you disagree with names you think shames them, and that you think that will silence them? (Except it kind of backfires here, actually)

Hey, girlfriend -- you are the kind of bully who likes to call folks out. but then gets all prissy when he is given the same treatment?

Examples of your rhetoric:

"All I can say about your statement above is that it is buffoonish. You are wrong in your analysis and you're rude on top of it."

"What put us in debt, Mr. Buffoon, is all the spending that did not result in any noticeable increase in revenue. Wake up and smell the Obama. He absolutely blew it, or he did it on purpose. There's no other explanation."

Repeal The Debt Ceiling!!

I'll fess up to being less than kind on this forum. That is because my original opinions were greeted -- from the get-go -- with rudeness and sarcasm. Moreover, I don't take kindly to offensive remarks from folks who don't read serious political journals --whether from the right or left.

As a result, I figured that this is a tough place where playing rough is accepted.

Wanna play rough? Game on.

Wanna try to discuss things in a rational way...well, that's why I originally started to post here.

But please ... don't whine when you get better than you give.

Harbor

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...8-Meltdown.htm

Quite blaming the POTUS and the Congress for the mess that we are in. Right now, go into your bathroom, look in the mirror. That is who is to blame for the mess that we are in. You, Me, Each and Everyone one of us. We did not do our jobs and keep an eye on those we elected to represent us. So quit complaining, start doing your job and maybe we can get out of this mess before we complete crash and go under.

Originally Posted by harbor53

Hey, girlfriend -- you are the kind of bully who likes to call folks out. but then gets all prissy when he is given the same treatment?

Examples of your rhetoric:

"All I can say about your statement above is that it is buffoonish. You are wrong in your analysis and you're rude on top of it."

"What put us in debt, Mr. Buffoon, is all the spending that did not result in any noticeable increase in revenue. Wake up and smell the Obama. He absolutely blew it, or he did it on purpose. There's no other explanation."

Repeal The Debt Ceiling!!

I'll fess up to being less than kind on this forum. That is because my original opinions were greeted -- from the get-go -- with rudeness and sarcasm. Moreover, I don't take kindly to offensive remarks from folks who don't read serious political journals --whether from the right or left.

As a result, I figured that this is a tough place where playing rough is accepted.

Wanna play rough? Game on.

Wanna try to discuss things in a rational way...well, that's why I originally started to post here.

But please ... don't whine when you get better than you give.

Harbor

Excuse Me; you're the rational one? You're the one who without real evidence is calling people racist and "herr Himmler". You got to be devoid of mental mirrors to see yourself in.

In asking you to explain yourself in your accusatory diatribe to Villagegolfer in calling him racist, I'm playing rough? You couldn't even do it. Where is your explanation on what was exactly racist in Villagegolfers post or in my questions to you?

You can take any quote of mine you want out of context, but it still just make you the bully, not me. There's no whining here and I couldn't care less what you think of me. You dish it out and get furious when challenged. Very classy.

So far, your comments are far more offensive that any I've seen. You're off to a great start on this forum, let me tell you.

Now you're the arbiter of what is a serious political journal, and you belittle people when you have no idea who they are or what they read or don't read.

I'm thinking you need an intervention.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Quite blaming the POTUS and the Congress for the mess that we are in. Right now, go into your bathroom, look in the mirror. That is who is to blame for the mess that we are in. You, Me, Each and Everyone one of us. We did not do our jobs and keep an eye on those we elected to represent us. So quit complaining, start doing your job and maybe we can get out of this mess before we complete crash and go under.

I don't know about you, buddy, but I do my homework before I vote. Unlike my sister-in-law who said she voted for Obama because he is a good talker, or my black neighbor who said he voted for Obama because he is a "Brother".