Originally Posted by RichieLion

I'm thinking you need an intervention.

All these personal attacks are accomplishing is to drive people away from this forum who might read and get more information to develop informed political opinions. Or worse, be so turned off by the vitriolic exchanges between members that they might choose not to make a contribution themselves.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

All these personal attacks are accomplishing is to drive people away from this forum who might read and get more information to develop informed political opinions. Or worse, be so turned off by the vitriolic exchanges between members that they might choose not to make a contribution themselves.

Instead of a blanket condemnation; if you take the time to read the progression of the posts, it is obvious that the aggressor is Harbor53. Villagegolfer made a rational observation on election exit polls and was immediately and scurrilously attacked with vile intent.

When I asked the aforementioned Harbor53 to explain his calling Villagegolfer "racist" and "Herr Himmler", he got furious and referred to me as "girlfriend" (maybe a little Freudian) and coupled with some other epithets, he dragged out some previous statements out of context in an attack that did not answer the question at hand. (He's checking up on me which is a little creepy, I must say)

Where have I, above, acted like the bully that Harbor53 revealed himself to be? (He wants to play rough by his own admission)

Richie is correct. I have complained about personal attacks since I started here rather recently. I may be ridiculed for saying this, and I have lurked before posting, but almost all the personal attacks are from the left side of the aisle. This is not a new phenomenon since I was a member of another political forum long ago.
When one has no reasonable comeback, instead of not posting, they come back with ridicule. It is immature. Of course I may mutter to myself that this so and so is an idiot, but I do not type it on a post.

Please everybody, aim your insults to the people we hire, the politicians. They deserve it.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Nope, just a single chart.

http://www.artonissues.com/wp-conten...Debt-Graph.jpg

I guess we can conclude from the chart that the presidents that did the most responsible job in fiscal policy were Truman, Ike, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford and even Jimmy Carter. They had spending under control and if they couldn't get the economy really cranking, they cut back spending to what we could afford. Then Bush 41 and Reagan cranked up the spending and our debt, even in the face of economic growth that wasn't all that great. That was until Bill Clinton got hold of the pursestrings, really got our economy cranking again, slowed down the spending and paid off most of our debt. Now the Bush 43 and Obama administrations look like those two guys have elevated our spending and debt at an unprecedented pace and to unaffordable levels. And neither one of them did beans to get the U.S. economy to a level that was as good as when Bill Clinton left office.

Yep, it's the presidents that are doing all this. But some of those who are often remembered as the "good guys" and "bad guys" in some cases are reversed. Kind of surprising, don't you think?

I agree on this one.....just how many debt ceiling raises was there under the previous admin?

Originally Posted by cologal

I agree on this one.....just how many debt ceiling raises was there under the previous admin?

Doers that make it right?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

but he was very smart, understood the Constitution, young, healthy...

Knowing the Constitution and believing in it, defending it, and operating under it's principles are apparently two seperate things...