I have heard this from some of the right wing nuts that they want President Obama to fail as a president. Besides being downright unpatriotic, it is downright foolish.

Do they want their 401(k) to go back to the levels they were in late 2007? Personally, I am glad mine is way up from that time period. Did they honestly want major car companies to go bankrupt at the time of a major economic downturn of the country. This would have put millions of Americans on the unemployment line and would have caused the collapse of the already damaged economy.

Did they want the US to stay in Iraq forever hunting for non-existent WMD's?

Yes, the current president is not perfect and there have been shortcomings but it sure is better than how things were back in late 2007. Gas prices are way too high, there should be drilling for domestic oil, and a pipeline from Canada to Texas is a good idea.

I am very happy at the upswing of the stock market as it is now over 13,000 as compared with how it was in late 2007. Do you want it to go back to those levels? I hope not.

It's the way the political world has turned. Driven by big $$$$. They have no shame in either or any party.

Of course they want him to fail, but they have no new ideas and so far no viable candidate to replace him.

Yes they want him to fail and watch your stock market because the bubble will burst again and soon. Look at the statistics from 2000 and 2001 and 2008 its going to hit you and hard. Look it up for yourself. I,m out of the market completely. Not that anyone cares

Were you liberals hoping for President Bush to succeed?............no, really.

Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Come on guys you all know perfectly well that Obama is very capable of allowing himself to fail and he doesn't need anyone's help.

Look at his failed foreign policies
Look at his failed economic policies
Look at ObamaCare which is coming apart at the seams according to the CBO.
Look at his failed energy policies. etc, etc, etc,

No, I beleieve Obama is doing a very fine job of sabotaging himself

Originally Posted by rubicon

Come on guys you all know perfectly well that Obama is very capable of allowing himself to fail and he doesn't need anyone's help.

Look at his failed foreign policies
Look at his failed economic policies
Look at ObamaCare which is coming apart at the seams according to the CBO.
Look at his failed energy policies. etc, etc, etc,

No, I beleieve Obama is doing a very fine job of sabotaging himself

Originally Posted by buggyone

I have heard this from some of the right wing nuts that they want President Obama to fail as a president. Besides being downright unpatriotic, it is downright foolish.

Do they want their 401(k) to go back to the levels they were in late 2007? Personally, I am glad mine is way up from that time period. Did they honestly want major car companies to go bankrupt at the time of a major economic downturn of the country. This would have put millions of Americans on the unemployment line and would have caused the collapse of the already damaged economy.

Did they want the US to stay in Iraq forever hunting for non-existent WMD's?

Yes, the current president is not perfect and there have been shortcomings but it sure is better than how things were back in late 2007. Gas prices are way too high, there should be drilling for domestic oil, and a pipeline from Canada to Texas is a good idea.

I am very happy at the upswing of the stock market as it is now over 13,000 as compared with how it was in late 2007. Do you want it to go back to those levels? I hope not.

I am VERY CURIOUS, as you have said.."I have heard this from some of the right wing nuts".....WHERE you heard it other than the comment by Limbaugh ? And why you choose to begin the name calling again ?

That kind of thing seems to be a basic characteristic of folks who support Obama....the name calling..dont get it !

Mitch McConnell Senate repub leader....what did he say the repubs number 1 job was? And could someone please tell me where our foreign policy failures are,what economic failures have there been and on and on.

Originally Posted by Bucco

I am VERY CURIOUS, as you have said.."I have heard this from some of the right wing nuts".....WHERE you heard it other than the comment by Limbaugh ? And why you choose to begin the name calling again ?

That kind of thing seems to be a basic characteristic of folks who support Obama....the name calling..dont get it !

Bucco: It is a mystery as to why otherwise logical individuals would place themselves at a disadvantage?

Originally Posted by waynet

Mitch McConnell Senate repub leader....what did he say the repubs number 1 job was? And could someone please tell me where our foreign policy failures are,what economic failures have there been and on and on.

Start with HEALTH CARE and a fiasco to come. THIS is major and would, in my mind supercede anything good he may have done.

I think the bail out of the auto companies will come back to haunt the industry and our country. He set such precedents with unions...did you know that the government favored unions over anyone and anybody...and actually over other workers. I attach a link that may give you more information as I am not the best at explaining.

"Driving to Delusionville
Obama’s former auto czar is in deep denial about the government’s failed bailout"

Driving to Delusionville - Reason Magazine

Then our relations with ME countries is just terrible including with those we consider friends.

I began a thread on here about China being name the BEST FRIEND of our unions.....there is death and destruction and terroristic actions all over and while I am surely not endorsing war, we do NOTHING...see Syria, Somalia to begin.

He is on a mission to systematically change what this country is all about....he TALKS so nice and I agree...if all I had was his speeches I would be absolutely a big fan,but you have got to look at what he does or does not do....he is a master of big talk, no action.

Will get back to you...everytime I go down this path I get so depressed. This is NOT, I REPEAT NOT...an endorsement of the Replublican party or any candidate, but this man has done all the things I was wary of in 2008 and if he is in a situation where he does not have to stand in front of the voters anymore, I fear.

BUT.....

WAYNENET...please admit at least how difficult it is to get any of his fans, including you to discuss the actual issues....it is all about one liners...PLEASE at least follow the ACTIONS,and not just the WORDS.

Bucco,
You would have rather let the auto manufacturers go bankrupt and out of business than to bail them out? The country was in economic turmoil at that time when Bush Jr first gave money to the auto manufacturers. This was necessary to have them survive. If they had gone bankrupt, the entire Midwest economy would have totally collapsed with millions of American workers out of a job. It would have been the final straw that would have pushed the world economy over the brink.

Your bank accounts would not have been worth anything. Your retirement package would be gone up in smoke. The housing market would have collapsed completely and disaster would have been right there.

No matter who was President, the bailout of the auto industry was the right thing to do.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Bucco,
You would have rather let the auto manufacturers go bankrupt and out of business than to bail them out? The country was in economic turmoil at that time when Bush Jr first gave money to the auto manufacturers. This was necessary to have them survive. If they had gone bankrupt, the entire Midwest economy would have totally collapsed with millions of American workers out of a job. It would have been the final straw that would have pushed the world economy over the brink.

Your bank accounts would not have been worth anything. Your retirement package would be gone up in smoke. The housing market would have collapsed completely and disaster would have been right there.

No matter who was President, the bailout of the auto industry was the right thing to do.

Everything you say is your surmise and is the LINE of the Democratic party. I submit that all you say would have happened would NOT have happened. The ONLY thing that can be said in a legitmate manner is that the private money was not there...I DO NOT AGREE, but lets assume it was not...THEN bail them out.

This bail out has EMPOWERED THE UNIONS and is such a shallow "victory" that did nothing to reestablish these companies as stronger entities. Let the system work....it will. Some pain, maybe....but you will come back stronger....they still pay the big bonuses...unions are stronger than ever....dont see that as a good thing !

I think it is important to establish something here. Those who continually bring up "you want Obama to fail" are playing to an audience that has to be so shallow. It is a result of one comment by a commentator, and I, FOR ONE ANYWAY, am really insulted when somebody throws that at me....and that adds the unamerican part. To them I say...HOW DARE YOU..how dare you take my opposition to your idol and turn it like that. This is an oft used tactic by the President on any critics he has....and I suppose you folks just pick it up from there but it is insulting.

I wish his agenda to fail regarding many things...THAT IS TRUE, but you folks take this to a new and disgusting level.

I also will add, as is the normal course of events, someone will talk about Bush in some way shape or manner....it is just inevitable.....I never heard him talk that way...I did hear followers of his say that "un american" stuff and that was wrong. It is wrong and insulting no matter who does it.

Thanks for allowing me to get that off my chest !

Originally Posted by waynet

Mitch McConnell Senate repub leader....what did he say the repubs number 1 job was? And could someone please tell me where our foreign policy failures are,what economic failures have there been and on and on.

And what about the republican congress that won't pass one thing the president proposes even when it was their idea in the first place?