Originally Posted by Number 6

How long has it been since the Democrate controlled Senete has passed a budget resolution and sent it on to the House? Not a CR, but a real budget resolution.

THAT is not going to happen !!! We have not had a budget since this administration came into power.

But what do we need a budget for...spend it....if we run out, borrow or print it

Originally Posted by Number 6

How long has it been since the Democrate controlled Senete has passed a budget resolution and sent it on to the House? Not a CR, but a real budget resolution.

If you read "How a bill becomes a law" you'll learn that the republican controlled house of representatives introduces the bill, passes it on to the democratic controlled senate for debate, and then the president signs it. The congress controls the purse strings.



Kids in the House - Grade School - How a Bill Becomes a Law

Originally Posted by janmcn

If you read "How a bill becomes a law" you'll learn that the republican controlled house of representatives introduces the bill, passes it on to the democratic controlled senate for debate, and then the president signs it. The congress controls the purse strings.



Kids in the House - Grade School - How a Bill Becomes a Law

We all, or should, know how a bill becomes law.....in a hurry but will leave you with a few items....and of ccourse you will run to your nearest party site to find other things, but ...

...President Obama proposed a FY2012 budget last year, and the Senate voted it down 97–0. (And that budget was no prize—according to the Congressional Budget Office, that proposal never had an annual deficit of less than $748 billion, would double the national debt in 10 years and would see annual interest payments approach $1 trillion per year.)

...The Senate rejected House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R–WI) budget by 57–40 in May 2011, with no Democrats voting for it.

...Senator Reid has said it would be “foolish” to pass a budget, but failing to pass it is proving to be beyond irresponsible. The middle class will be left holding the bag, paying for the Senate’s reckless negligence with soaring deficits,

Have a nice day...someday MAYBE YOU WILL come to terms with a few things...

This President is NOT what you think he is at all.

This congress ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE are a joke

NO political party is worth the adulation you give to this president and this party...NO PARTY

A do nothing Congress, imagine that.

For what is worth, I started a new thread regarding a column on Thomas sowell. One of the issues sowell address was the gridlock in Washington. he believes it is of great economic benefit because otherwise Washongton would continue to omplemet these God awful policies.

By the way this congress is probably the least effective in the origination of a bill. They are poorly researched, poorly written and/or poorly drafted, poorly reviewed, if they are reviewed at all and worse yet poorly understood. I guess we can contribute that to our education system

Originally Posted by janmcn

If you read "How a bill becomes a law" you'll learn that the republican controlled house of representatives introduces the bill, passes it on to the democratic controlled senate for debate, and then the president signs it. The congress controls the purse strings.



Kids in the House - Grade School - How a Bill Becomes a Law

My point being that the House passed a budget and sent it on to the Senate where it died. They could have passed their own and sent it to Conference, but the Dems wanted no part of that.
Nice cheap shot, though.

Originally Posted by janmcn

Fair enough. Here are just a few examples of the republican congress fighting the president at every step: not wanting to raise the debt limit, not wanting to pass the payroll tax cut, not wanting to approve his nominee to head the Consumer Protection Agency, not wanting to pass the Affordable Care Act, saying no to his Jobs Bill, not funding the FAA. If the republican led house does not pass the highways bill by March 31, all highway projects come to an end and thousands of people lose their jobs.

Now cite your examples.

I forgot the biggest example of republican obstruction: The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, the first bill President Obama signed into law after taking office. Ninety-eight percent of republican house members voted no. That's correct 98% voted no.

The next time you shop at Publix, tell the cashier that you don't think SHE should make as much money as the man next to her doing the exact same job. UNBELIEVABLE

Republicans will try to spin these votes every which way come election time, but unfortunately for them, all the votes are in the Congressional Record.


National Committee on Pay Equity NCPE

Originally Posted by janmcn

I forgot the biggest example of republican obstruction: The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, the first bill President Obama signed into law after taking office. Ninety-eight percent of republican house members voted no. That's correct 98% voted no.

The next time you shop at Publix, tell the cashier that you don't think SHE should make as much money as the man next to her doing the exact same job. UNBELIEVABLE

Republicans will try to spin these votes every which way come election time, but unfortunately for them, all the votes are in the Congressional Record.


National Committee on Pay Equity NCPE

The Republicans are concerned with the rising specter of fraud accompanying this bill this time around.

There is the problem of U-visas which are given to illegal immigrants who can aid a legal investigation, but immigrants who apply for U-visas do not need to assist in actual investigations, Republicans say, so an illegal immigrant facing deportation could apply for one without ever needing to aid law enforcement. Leahy’s bill does not contain provisions to prevent such abuse.

This new incarnations has no provisions against marriage fraud according to Republicans. If abuse is alleged a person can self petition without their "spouse" being involved. Another scenario ripe for fraud.

The revised bill also provides unprecedented legal jurisdiction for alleged crimes of violence committed against American Indian women by non-Indians on Indian reservations. The Supreme Court ruled in 1978 that tribes do not have authority over non-Indians, even if the crime occurs on the reservation.
This provision in the act would allow tribes to prosecute offenders who are not American Indian or Alaska Native, when their victims are, and the violence happens on a reservation.

Also the Republicans are said to be wary about a lack of oversight for $600,000 in grants contained in the bill. The Government Accountability Office has found that funding is not adequately tracked to evaluate the effectiveness of VAWA programs, and that the Office of Inspector General has raised questioned about the size of the grants and the grantees’ use of the money.

Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley introduced his own version of VAWA in committee to address those issues and it was this version of the bill Democrats rejected.

So, when you just point to wage concerns between men and women workers, it's only a part of this bill and not the reason why Republicans rejected the Democrat's version of the bill with it's lack of oversight and it's granting of powers to Indian tribes that is against all Supreme Court precedent.

The whole story is that the Democrats are voting against oversight of the money being funneled into this version of the bill, and against the oversight of illegal immigrants who may be "covered" under this version of the bill.

I'm glad you brought this to our attention Jan. It's one more reason to vote against the Democrat Party.

Violence Against Women Act | Senate Republicans | The Daily Caller

And thank YOU richielion for reinforcing the view that republicans are waging a war against women. They vote no on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, they vote no on the Violence Against Women Act, they introduce 1100 bills in 2011 in every state in the country pertaining to women's health issues (and are on track to surpass that number in 2012).

Even John McCain said yesterday on Meet The Press that this war on women has got to stop.

Saw an interesting headline recently that said "Don't Republicans Realize That Women Vote?"




Yes, There Is A Republican War On Women Voters | Fox News



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1359515.html

that these liberal, left wing socialist Dems had the senate, house and presidentcy for two years and could not put their affairs in order or get it done, any of it. Now they turn around and blame anyone but themselves. What a line of crap they and the msm are trying to feed us. The reason that they no longer have the House or their super majority is that the Donkey B.S. is falling on deaf ears and the American People are getting smart and at the same time tired of their antics.

Obama is merely the mouth of the B.S. they are trying to shell out. Wake Up, the do nothing congress has a label and it is DEMOCRAT. The proof is in the party line that the libs in the political threads are trying to diseminate.

Note, how if they disagree with a commentary they name call but cannot retort with any intelligent or cogent thought and/or proof of their rhetoric.

November cannot get here soon enough!

Frank, and Ackerman, may your retirement be long and happy and your policies and speeches short lived.

They never had (well only for a few weeks if memory serves) the supermajority in the Senate that would allow them to override a filibuster.

That's one of the problems with the Senate. You no longer have to DO a filibuster, you just have to SAY you will. You don't have to back up your convictions with actually going up and reading speeches or whatever to stop something that you truly believe is wrong.

Originally Posted by janmcn

And thank YOU richielion for reinforcing the view that republicans are waging a war against women. They vote no on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, they vote no on the Violence Against Women Act, they introduce 1100 bills in 2011 in every state in the country pertaining to women's health issues (and are on track to surpass that number in 2012).

Even John McCain said yesterday on Meet The Press that this war on women has got to stop.

Saw an interesting headline recently that said "Don't Republicans Realize That Women Vote?"
Yes, There Is A Republican War On Women Voters | Fox News
John McCain: Arizona Contraception Bill Should Be Vetoed

Wow; comprehension is really a problem here. You understood nothing.
Typical

Originally Posted by Bucco

We all, or should, know how a bill becomes law.....in a hurry but will leave you with a few items....and of ccourse you will run to your nearest party site to find other things, but ...

...President Obama proposed a FY2012 budget last year, and the Senate voted it down 97–0. (And that budget was no prize—according to the Congressional Budget Office, that proposal never had an annual deficit of less than $748 billion, would double the national debt in 10 years and would see annual interest payments approach $1 trillion per year.)

...The Senate rejected House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R–WI) budget by 57–40 in May 2011, with no Democrats voting for it.

...Senator Reid has said it would be “foolish” to pass a budget, but failing to pass it is proving to be beyond irresponsible. The middle class will be left holding the bag, paying for the Senate’s reckless negligence with soaring deficits,

Have a nice day...someday MAYBE YOU WILL come to terms with a few things...

This President is NOT what you think he is at all.

This congress ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE are a joke

NO political party is worth the adulation you give to this president and this party...NO PARTY

so the republicans voted down their own budget? no surprise there! they can't even agree amongst themselves...these primaries disgustingly prove that! 3 years of contentious behavior and then the best they could put up to run is a group of dancing monkeys. Romney? really? damaged goods at best, but don't worry whatever he needs to say to win he will, if he believes what he is saying or not. Santorum? Paul? Gingrich? this reads worse than a bad reality show. Has Romney once TRULY said how he expects to accomplish any one of his promises?? and I said truly so don't give me what his people have said, whay has he said...that's when he wasn't stumbling over his BS. Oh, and I mean that in only the nicest way,hmmph
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Originally Posted by RichieLion

Were you liberals hoping for President Bush to succeed?............no, really.

Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Once a president is elected, the best interests of Americans is not served by hoping that he fails. Political differences aside, support for the President to succeed is a vote for America,s success. Big difference between hoping he does not get re-elected vs. hoping he fails. Working together for the common good of America becomes less likely when opinions and denunciations are influenced by various degrees of inbred racism.

Once a president is elected, the best interests of Americans is not served by hoping that he fails. Political differences aside, support for the President to succeed is a vote for America,s success. Big difference between hoping he does not get re-elected vs. hoping he fails. Working together for the common good of America becomes less likely when opinions and denunciations are influenced by various degrees of inbred racism.

First, It IS sad that this seems to always surface in almost every post about Obama.
Second, I think it is just as bad to hope for Obama to succeed with policies that I and many Americans don't want to have happen.
So by hoping that he succeeds you are hoping for America to fail.
I want America to succeed and Obama's policies to fail.
And so far he is a failure.
Once he is out of office we can begin to succeed. Until then what I have quoted in this post above WILL happen but not in the way you meant.