Originally Posted by Guest

Yes and they were in unions, something your supreme commander, reagan, showed the companies how to get rid of. There was a middle class making a decent living, its gone.

You're right, the middle class is about gone, thanks to the left. They want everyone to be poor, so the elite can be the royalty they crave so. Unions served their purpose until gov regulations made them no longer necessary. Now, the mob has to find other venues for their revenue.

Originally Posted by Guest

I thought the repubs were for law and order, or did the go the way of family values?

Naw, if the Republicans did away with their "law and order and family values" then we would be libtards. It's amazing how you libtards feel that it is perfectly acceptable to enter a function and create a disturbance, and then blame the those that are peacefully gathered to participate in that function. The left perpetrates the crime and then becomes the victim.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Guests:

Can't we end the madness? We better or we are all going to go down a rabbit hole to the abyss.

Let's agree that there are some sensible progressives, libertarians, conservatives. What all of us focus on too much are the extremes found in everyone of the aforementioned.

Too many of our leaders and their followers have become too reactionary.
Is "reactionary" a good trait for a leader?

On a micro level could you live with a spouse who is always reactionary? I doubt so.

Move On. Org was first organized to come to the defense of Bill Clinton during his days of impeachment. Move On. Org wanted him censured and the matter closed. Since then they have become a force for the progressive leftist. Their actions equate to those of Black Lives Matter, white supremacist , etc. Their aim is anarchy.

We are treading on very dangerous ground with the brand of politic prevalent in this nation today. Trump Clinton Sanders and Cruz all equal division.

Please help stop the madness. Demand civil discourse. Demand solutions to problems and avoidance of name calling. We are running out of time.

Personal Best Regards:

anarchy : "absence of government" Sounds like repubs saying from day one of Obama's administration, we will do everything to bring him down. Not what is good for the country, but what can we do to block everything. The recent blockage is the supreme court. Oh, I know they are doing their job. lol

Originally Posted by Guest

Yes and they were in unions, something your supreme commander, reagan, showed the companies how to get rid of. There was a middle class making a decent living, its gone.

The corporations moved the jobs, Americans were too expensive to employ.

Originally Posted by Guest

anarchy : "absence of government" Sounds like repubs saying from day one of Obama's administration, we will do everything to bring him down. Not what is good for the country, but what can we do to block everything. The recent blockage is the supreme court. Oh, I know they are doing their job. lol

When you have a candidate Obama campaigning with the idea of doing everything he can to socialize this country, YES it is the responsibility of those that we elected to keep that from happening. Apparently the majority agreed with us, and that is the reasoning behind a Republican majority in congress. Obama ran on a platform of bringing everyone together and then told everyone that the Republicans were "the enemy.....and should sit at the back of the bus."
Obama became the enemy, as well as Grayson that said that republicans wanted old people to die. Pelogrossi said the Tea Party was astro turf. Reid stopped all bills that entered the Senate from the House and kept them from being voted upon, and you wonder why conservatives sought to limit the left?

And yes, the blocking of the supreme court nomination is no different than what the left would do and did promise to do in the past. You indignation is quite disingenuous.

Originally Posted by Guest

You're right, the middle class is about gone, thanks to the left. They want everyone to be poor, so the elite can be the royalty they crave so. Unions served their purpose until gov regulations made them no longer necessary. Now, the mob has to find other venues for their revenue.

This is such CRAP....The right wing is so ignorant they vote for a party doesn't care about the middle class. They bust unions and label it a "Right to Work State" Yep its a right to work for less. Are the lefties shipping jobs overseas...no that is the Corporations doing that for more profit. We cut their taxes, I paid a higher percentage on my taxes than many corps. You all have embraced Reaganomics.....Why don't you look that whats happened to Kansas, Louisiana, New Jersey and Wisconsin after 8 years of this crap.

Stop watching Faux News...they just lie to you!

Originally Posted by Guest

...it worked on Sea World, don't let it work on our nation!

[this quote is from post number 1--I forgot how this thread started]


What worked on Sea World?
What was the Sea World lesson I missed?
What is it that we need to be afraid of now?
Is it the controversy over captive killer whales?
Are killer whales crossing the border too?

Originally Posted by Guest

[this quote is from post number 1--I forgot how this thread started]


What worked on Sea World?
What was the Sea World lesson I missed?
What is it that we need to be afraid of now?
Is it the controversy over captive killer whales?
Are killer whales crossing the border too?

Originally Posted by Guest

This is such CRAP....The right wing is so ignorant they vote for a party doesn't care about the middle class. They bust unions and label it a "Right to Work State" Yep its a right to work for less. Are the lefties shipping jobs overseas...no that is the Corporations doing that for more profit. We cut their taxes, I paid a higher percentage on my taxes than many corps. You all have embraced Reaganomics.....Why don't you look that whats happened to Kansas, Louisiana, New Jersey and Wisconsin after 8 years of this crap.

Stop watching Faux News...they just lie to you!

Dude, it was the last seven years of liberal control that hurt the middle class. Look at the statistics. Don't be so resistant to learning something new. It's the 21st century. Things have changed since you were out comatose, Van Winkle. Take a chill pill, and open a book or use the Google. It's pretty easy, really.

If you are so hot on Socialism, try reading about how it's hosing up Europe. Here, I'll make it easy for you, Google "Greece." Come back after you do that and I will give you some more homework.

Here's a link about the American middle class slipping since 1979.
5 Charts That Show How the Middle Class Is Disappearing | BillMoyers.com

The only way to increase the lifestyle of the middle class is to provide a decent, less restrictive playing field for businesses that hire workers. If the economy is up, then the wages go up and there is more hiring. We have a crappy economy, so we have a stagnant middle class. More rules, regulations and restrictions, cause less hiring. Less profit available to business, less hiring and less wage increases. In the past seven years, the gov has attempted to restrict and regulate busines to the point where they are not playing along. No matter what Obama and the socialists say, you can't increase the middle class by making someone pay higher taxes. That money is not going to the middle class. The higher the taxes, the less employment your are going to have. The less wage hikes you are going to have. All you will accomplish is putting more people on a gov subsidy.

Originally Posted by Guest

The only way to increase the lifestyle of the middle class is to provide a decent, less restrictive playing field for businesses that hire workers. If the economy is up, then the wages go up and there is more hiring. We have a crappy economy, so we have a stagnant middle class. More rules, regulations and restrictions, cause less hiring. Less profit available to business, less hiring and less wage increases. In the past seven years, the gov has attempted to restrict and regulate busines to the point where they are not playing along. No matter what Obama and the socialists say, you can't increase the middle class by making someone pay higher taxes. That money is not going to the middle class. The higher the taxes, the less employment your are going to have. The less wage hikes you are going to have. All you will accomplish is putting more people on a gov subsidy.

Which is the problem as that is what is expected. Let them work for what they get like they did in the 30's and 40's with federal work projects.

Let them work on building THE WALL!

Originally Posted by Guest

Which is the problem as that is what is expected. Let them work for what they get like they did in the 30's and 40's with federal work projects.

Let them work on building THE WALL!

I think you are correct. We need Federal Works Projects. We need to do something drastic to get people back to work. I would rather see all those workers correcting the infrastructure. I see some common ground here. How did all those programs funded? We need a man courageous enough to act like Presidents Roosevelt and Taft.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think you are correct. We need Federal Works Projects. We need to do something drastic to get people back to work. I would rather see all those workers correcting the infrastructure. I see some common ground here. How did all those programs funded? We need a man courageous enough to act like Presidents Roosevelt and Taft.

You had me until you got to the line with Roosevelt in it. I've got no use for a socialist. But, otherwise I concur.

I wonder how many folks would remain on welfare if you made a stipulation that in order to collect their welfare, they must put in so many hours working on the wall or infrastructure? Why not make them do SOMETHING for the gov freebie? I bet we would literally do away with poverty level citizens.