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Guest 03-21-2016 07:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201543)
You sure know a lot. You sound like George Wallace. Typical wingnut wanting to go back 60 years.

Personally, I like America more back then and would love to go back. Wasn't as 3rd world back then. That's what happens when the minorities start taking over.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201579)
You might as well get used to Trump because with a choice between him and Hilllary, his "immoral" behavior looks like a choir boy in comparison. I don't like the guy, but if he is the GOP nominee, he'll get my vote. When you only have two options, between him and a criminal traitor, the choice is obvious.

My God! Just put your tail between your legs and whimper away! You have more than two options, they've just brainwashed you into believing there's ONLY "their two candidates". Wake up, stop being an idiot, one of the sheep. Change things with your vote.

Guest 03-21-2016 08:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200931)
i guess you did not see them blocking a highway in Arizona today....by the way, Obama had a law passed to protect himself that it is now illegal to protest in any area protected by Secret Service...how come he is not enforcing this law?

I guess its okay when trump incites violence. I believe that is against the law. But you would never admit to that!

Guest 03-21-2016 08:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201622)
I guess its okay when trump incites violence. I believe that is against the law. But you would never admit to that!

:mademyday:

Guest 03-21-2016 08:45 AM

Why do they disrupt inside the building?

If the venue can hold 10,000 people, and contempt for the candidate, why not gather outside the building with 20,000 people. A Gandhi type protest.

Wouldn't it be a more effective non-violent strategy that sends a more accurate message that they are not the party of hate?

As a result even more protesters would show up knowing there was a reasonable amount of certainty there wouldn't be violence. Just like a lot of people wanted to see the Stones for free at Altamont but not if the Hell's Angels are security.

As far as who should arrest who, one would think mayors, police, security guards and secret service know their job and roles better then anyone else.

ok--I'm going to put on my flak jacket now. OK, I'm ready.

Guest 03-21-2016 08:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201622)
I guess its okay when trump incites violence. I believe that is against the law. But you would never admit to that!

Prove it. You already have a president that incites violence by endorsing Occupy Wall St and Black Lives Matter, as well as other radicals.

You liberals are cowards, hiding behind a perversion of words taken out of context. Besides, if you think violence is bad then you probably should condemn our patriots that cut ties with Brittan by means of violence.

If you can't take the violence, then tell your little liberal protesters to find another job.

Guest 03-21-2016 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201596)
Personally, I like America more back then and would love to go back. Wasn't as 3rd world back then. That's what happens when the minorities start taking over.



My God! Just put your tail between your legs and whimper away! You have more than two options, they've just brainwashed you into believing there's ONLY "their two candidates". Wake up, stop being an idiot, one of the sheep. Change things with your vote.

Talk about an idiot. The guy that's going to change things by voting for Mickey Mouse. No one is whimpering. Trump will be a hundred times better than the poser we have now. If you can't handle it, do something other than shooting blanks over the Internet. Or, you can move. But either way, go back into your hole. You ridicule everyone else, and yet add no solutions, just trolling agitation. If you think your Hillary is going to win by you attempting to get everyone to stay home on election day, you are going to be very sad in Nov.

Guest 03-21-2016 08:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201660)
Besides, if you think violence is bad then you probably should condemn our patriots that cut ties with Brittan by means of violence.

And why did they cut ties with England? Time to buy some more Ammo.

Guest 03-21-2016 09:04 AM

Civil War II is just around the corner - Racial tensions at an all time high, 52% of the people are looking for more government benefits (and the working people cant afford to pay for it), terrible candidates for president (by both parties = shameless criminal, lazy under achiever, inflammatory egomaniac, and the whiner), nut jobs doing mass shootings every month...STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 03-21-2016 09:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201622)
I guess its okay when trump incites violence. I believe that is against the law. But you would never admit to that!

Hillary is giving a speech right now and she just said that "we must stand up to bullies." She is inciting violence. Any libtards going to disavow her for that statement?

If libtards would stay away from Trump's functions, then there would be NO violence. Therefore, liberals are the cause of ALL the violence.

Guest 03-21-2016 09:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201667)
Civil War II is just around the corner - Racial tensions at an all time high, 52% of the people are looking for more government benefits (and the working people cant afford to pay for it), terrible candidates for president (by both parties = shameless criminal, lazy under achiever, inflammatory egomaniac, and the whiner), nut jobs doing mass shootings every month...STOCK UP ON AMMO!

It's not racial tensions. It's class tensions. When 1/10 of 1% own what 90% own................you've heard the rest.
When Romney at $200 million is 3 times wealthier then the average 1 per center and Trumps says' "He's not rich, when did they lower the bar" that's an eye opener.

Guest 03-21-2016 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201707)
It's not racial tensions. It's class tensions. When 1/10 of 1% own what 90% own................you've heard the rest.
When Romney at $200 million is 3 times wealthier then the average 1 per center and Trumps says' "He's not rich, when did they lower the bar" that's an eye opener.

Yep, wealth envy. The rich must share their wealth! It's not a budget problem, it's the fact that some folks think they deserve to keep the money they earned. How dare them! When the government taxes the rich until they are either broke or gone and they still don't have enough to run the government, they will start taxing everyone else, more and more. That's how socialism works. Why is it that our American socialists have not told everyone how much sacrifice is required to keep socialism going? Google taxes in other countries. Not just income taxes, but value added taxes and sales taxes also. Then look at how much payroll taxes are taken out of one's paycheck. Then look at how many countries that have socialized medicine also have supplemental private insurance for those that want quality health care. Even Canada requires you to pay your own prescriptions and ambulance service.

Guest 03-21-2016 10:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201720)
Yep, wealth envy. The rich must share their wealth! It's not a budget problem, it's the fact that some folks think they deserve to keep the money they earned. How dare them! When the government taxes the rich until they are either broke or gone and they still don't have enough to run the government, they will start taxing everyone else, more and more. That's how socialism works. Why is it that our American socialists have not told everyone how much sacrifice is required to keep socialism going? Google taxes in other countries. Not just income taxes, but value added taxes and sales taxes also. Then look at how much payroll taxes are taken out of one's paycheck. Then look at how many countries that have socialized medicine also have supplemental private insurance for those that want quality health care. Even Canada requires you to pay your own prescriptions and ambulance service.

I get it envy is envy. But aren't there varying degrees of envy as there is wealth?

I'm not thinking of myself. I have plenty.
I'm thinking of the greater then 90% that couldn't write a thousand dollar check if they had too. Are they all lazy and self-entitled?

Look at it this way if you only see things in black or white.
Speeding is speeding so the guy who guys 1 mile over the limit is just as guilty as the guy who goes 60 miles over the limit. But can't you see any difference if the speed limit is 25 mph?

I don't really care what you think or what you need to tell yourself to make it easy to sleep at night. I'm sorry I wasted your time..

Guest 03-21-2016 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201725)
I get it envy is envy. But aren't there varying degrees of envy as there is wealth?

I'm not thinking of myself. I have plenty.
I'm thinking of the greater then 90% that couldn't write a thousand dollar check if they had too. Are they all lazy and self-entitled?

Look at it this way if you only see things in black or white.
Speeding is speeding so the guy who guys 1 mile over the limit is just as guilty as the guy who goes 60 miles over the limit. But can't you see any difference if the speed limit is 25 mph?

I don't really care what you think or what you need to tell yourself to make it easy to sleep at night. I'm sorry I wasted your time..

No, you are not wasting my time. It is my time to waste, not yours. There is nothing wrong with an honest debate

I am not saying that those that don't have money are lazy. I am saying that many are just not as motivated as the wealthy. I'm not and will admit it. I can make lots more than I have. But, I opted not to work harder or longer in order to achieve that level of wealth. I am satisfied with what I have. I could have worked seven more years before I would have been forced into retirement. But, I don't believe that anyone's money that they earned is due to me. I don't believe that a person that is more motivated than me, should be penalized for being successful. I will make a statement that I believe that many folks that are on welfare do not belong there. I believe that the gov abuses and wastes our tax revenues. But, I do not believe that the wealthy owes me a dime, or anyone else for that matter. To demonize the wealthy is to disparage what makes this country great, freedom to achieve and equal opportunity. Anyone that pays at a higher percentage rate than anyone else, is being discriminated upon. And that is UN-American. IF I have two cars and my neighbor has one and it breaks down, I do not believe that he should demand that I give him one of mine. If he doesn't maintain his and I do maintain mine, I shouldn't be penalized because of his lack of motivation.

Guest 03-21-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201738)
No, you are not wasting my time. It is my time to waste, not yours. There is nothing wrong with an honest debate

I am not saying that those that don't have money are lazy. I am saying that many are just not as motivated as the wealthy. I'm not and will admit it. I can make lots more than I have. But, I opted not to work harder or longer in order to achieve that level of wealth. I am satisfied with what I have. I could have worked seven more years before I would have been forced into retirement. But, I don't believe that anyone's money that they earned is due to me. I don't believe that a person that is more motivated than me, should be penalized for being successful. I will make a statement that I believe that many folks that are on welfare do not belong there. I believe that the gov abuses and wastes our tax revenues. But, I do not believe that the wealthy owes me a dime, or anyone else for that matter. To demonize the wealthy is to disparage what makes this country great, freedom to achieve and equal opportunity. Anyone that pays at a higher percentage rate than anyone else, is being discriminated upon. And that is UN-American. IF I have two cars and my neighbor has one and it breaks down, I do not believe that he should demand that I give him one of mine. If he doesn't maintain his and I do maintain mine, I shouldn't be penalized because of his lack of motivation.

That's just it. You have 2 cars and your neighbor has 1 broken car. Envy
There are 50,000 homes in the villages, average price $250,000. $12,500,000,000 worth of homes. You own one and someone in Trumps bracket owns the other 49,999. That's envy too.

Is that the America our forefathers envisioned?

Guest 03-21-2016 03:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201747)
That's just it. You have 2 cars and your neighbor has 1 broken car. Envy
There are 50,000 homes in the villages, average price $250,000. $12,500,000,000 worth of homes. You own one and someone in Trumps bracket owns the other 49,999. That's envy too.

Is that the America our forefathers envisioned?

Are you kidding? Who cares if one or a million people own other homes? I have my home and I earned it. Every penny of it. I also have another home that I gave to my daughter. That was my prerogative. By your vision for America, it would not be against the law for me to rob a bank if I wished, because they have more money than I do. Totally ridiculous.

Liberals are always generous with other folks' money. Take from them and they cry a blue moon.

As for the wealthy getting all the tax breaks, they still pay more into the IRS than half the country. And they deserve all the tax breaks because they are being discriminated upon. Even the supreme court has said that one should not pay more income taxes than the minimum required by law.

"Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the
treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.
Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister
in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any
public duty to pay more than the law demands."-- Judge Learned Hand (1872-1961), Judge, U. S. Court of Appeals

Grover Cleveland: "When more of the people's sustenance is exacted through the form of taxation than is necessary to meet the just obligations of government and expenses of its economical administration, such exaction becomes ruthless extortion and a violation of the fundamental principles of free government."

Guest 03-21-2016 04:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201707)
It's not racial tensions. It's class tensions. When 1/10 of 1% own what 90% own................you've heard the rest.
When Romney at $200 million is 3 times wealthier then the average 1 per center and Trumps says' "He's not rich, when did they lower the bar" that's an eye opener.

I don't see your point.

The group is called "Black Lives Matter" are you suggesting they are too stupid to realize it should be "Poor Lives Matter"? Or are you suggesting for political correctness they don't call race "race" anymore, they now call it "class"?

1/10 of 1% own what 90% own?? Is this another version of "who's on 1st"?

I am curious; how much wealth does the average 1% have?

What does someone's personal wealth have to do with the 52% receiving government benefits?

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 03-21-2016 04:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201725)
I get it envy is envy. But aren't there varying degrees of envy as there is wealth?

I'm not thinking of myself. I have plenty.
I'm thinking of the greater then 90% that couldn't write a thousand dollar check if they had too. Are they all lazy and self-entitled?

Look at it this way if you only see things in black or white.
Speeding is speeding so the guy who guys 1 mile over the limit is just as guilty as the guy who goes 60 miles over the limit. But can't you see any difference if the speed limit is 25 mph?

I don't really care what you think or what you need to tell yourself to make it easy to sleep at night. I'm sorry I wasted your time..

I am unable to see your point "Mr. Plenty":

90% of who can't right a $1000 check if they had too?

I often see things black and white, you mighty wish to try it sometime as; 1 mile over the limit a ticket is written for speeding, 60 miles over the limit a ticket is written for reckless driving. Different fines for different degrees of illegal acts...

I doubt anyone on here needs to tell themselves something in order to sleep at night, if anything the lazy and self entitled might need to do that.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 03-21-2016 04:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201738)
No, you are not wasting my time. It is my time to waste, not yours. There is nothing wrong with an honest debate

I am not saying that those that don't have money are lazy. I am saying that many are just not as motivated as the wealthy. I'm not and will admit it. I can make lots more than I have. But, I opted not to work harder or longer in order to achieve that level of wealth. I am satisfied with what I have. I could have worked seven more years before I would have been forced into retirement. But, I don't believe that anyone's money that they earned is due to me. I don't believe that a person that is more motivated than me, should be penalized for being successful. I will make a statement that I believe that many folks that are on welfare do not belong there. I believe that the gov abuses and wastes our tax revenues. But, I do not believe that the wealthy owes me a dime, or anyone else for that matter. To demonize the wealthy is to disparage what makes this country great, freedom to achieve and equal opportunity. Anyone that pays at a higher percentage rate than anyone else, is being discriminated upon. And that is UN-American. IF I have two cars and my neighbor has one and it breaks down, I do not believe that he should demand that I give him one of mine. If he doesn't maintain his and I do maintain mine, I shouldn't be penalized because of his lack of motivation.

Good post!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 03-21-2016 05:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Guest 03-21-2016 08:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201720)
Yep, wealth envy. The rich must share their wealth! It's not a budget problem, it's the fact that some folks think they deserve to keep the money they earned. How dare them! When the government taxes the rich until they are either broke or gone and they still don't have enough to run the government, they will start taxing everyone else, more and more. That's how socialism works. Why is it that our American socialists have not told everyone how much sacrifice is required to keep socialism going? Google taxes in other countries. Not just income taxes, but value added taxes and sales taxes also. Then look at how much payroll taxes are taken out of one's paycheck. Then look at how many countries that have socialized medicine also have supplemental private insurance for those that want quality health care. Even Canada requires you to pay your own prescriptions and ambulance service.

The rich must pay their fair share. They can't be able to pay for their politicians, pay for their lobbyists, move their weighted legislation that benefits them through Congress ...

Wake up this best part of this country is socialism.

You want this country to get great again, I suggest we go back to the model we had in this country after WWII.

They also continue to be the mouth piece of less taxes and this country will skyrocket. Well we are almost 40 years into trickle down which was supposed to do that and all it did was make the middle class smaller and the richest of the rich even richer.

Guest 03-21-2016 08:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1201916)
I am unable to see your point "Mr. Plenty":

90% of who can't right a $1000 check if they had too?

I often see things black and white, you mighty wish to try it sometime as; 1 mile over the limit a ticket is written for speeding, 60 miles over the limit a ticket is written for reckless driving. Different fines for different degrees of illegal acts...

I doubt anyone on here needs to tell themselves something in order to sleep at night, if anything the lazy and self entitled might need to do that.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

yeah stock up on ammo old man.

Guest 03-22-2016 04:23 AM

I've got plenty of ammo, but it is hardly necessary when dealing with liberals. Personally, I don't fear liberals, but I do protect my family from criminals since law enforcement can only assist after the fact. But Liberals? Cowards that flee in terror if you stand up to them. Their only weapon is the media and hired agitators.

Guest 03-22-2016 08:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202077)
I've got plenty of ammo, but it is hardly necessary when dealing with liberals. Personally, I don't fear liberals, but I do protect my family from criminals since law enforcement can only assist after the fact. But Liberals? Cowards that flee in terror if you stand up to them. Their only weapon is the media and hired agitators.

Yep! Just look at their rile model, Obama!

Guest 03-22-2016 08:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202143)
Yep! Just look at their rile model, Obama!

That would be role model for the spell checkers.

Guest 03-22-2016 08:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202146)
That would be role model for the spell checkers.

I spelled it correctly. Obama is a rile model; someone who make others annoyed or irritated including me.

Guest 03-22-2016 08:49 AM

Except for the lies of Donald Trump, where do you get the idea that these are hired agitators? Many people are angry about Trump's hateful speech and do not need to be paid to speak up against his bigotry and provocations of physical violence.

Guest 03-22-2016 08:54 AM

Let me see if I get this correct.

If it is someone who is against Trump doing the protesting, interupting an event, getting in people's faces, pushing and shoving their way in....these are the folks who are presented as being upset with Trump's views.

However if it happens to be a Trump supporter who gets shoved and in turn shoves back, these folks are labelled as rioters and promoters of violence.

BS!

Guest 03-22-2016 09:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202157)
Except for the lies of Donald Trump, where do you get the idea that these are hired agitators? Many people are angry about Trump's hateful speech and do not need to be paid to speak up against his bigotry and provocations of physical violence.

Boo hooo, those big bad Republicans caused violence by speaking. Stay the .....away from us and you don't have anything to worry about. :1rotfl:

There was no bigotry. You made it up, or parroted it from some nobody.
There was no provoking. You made that up too. There was no difference in what he said than what Hillary said yesterday. So, get over you incessant whining. It's very irritating.

Just because liberals are cowards, doesn't mean they can run their mouths without consequences. Even though I don't condone unneeded violence on the agitators, I don't sympathize with them. They asked for it and someone was dumb enough to be sucked into their game. Both got what they deserved, one a beating and one a fine. Oh well, boys will be boys...:1rotfl:

Guest 03-22-2016 09:25 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202162)
Let me see if I get this correct.

If it is someone who is against Trump doing the protesting, interupting an event, getting in people's faces, pushing and shoving their way in....these are the folks who are presented as being upset with Trump's views.

However if it happens to be a Trump supporter who gets shoved and in turn shoves back, these folks are labelled as rioters and promoters of violence.

BS!

I agree with you. I want to hear what Trump has to say. I also want non-violent demonstrations. I'd like to see the Trump supporters demonstrating the democrat rallys.

Why don't they? Or maybe they do. I'm sure I'll find out soon.

Guest 03-22-2016 09:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202162)
Let me see if I get this correct.

If it is someone who is against Trump doing the protesting, interupting an event, getting in people's faces, pushing and shoving their way in....these are the folks who are presented as being upset with Trump's views.

However if it happens to be a Trump supporter who gets shoved and in turn shoves back, these folks are labelled as rioters and promoters of violence.

BS!

They are doing a lot more than shoving. I mean Trump's violent supporters.

The Democratic candidates get their hecklers as well. They are usually handled civilly.

Guest 03-22-2016 09:39 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202077)
I've got plenty of ammo, but it is hardly necessary when dealing with liberals. Personally, I don't fear liberals, but I do protect my family from criminals since law enforcement can only assist after the fact. But Liberals? Cowards that flee in terror if you stand up to them. Their only weapon is the media and hired agitators.

The media is in the conservatives pocket. Check Fox sometime. 100% conservative and they are the most watched news in the US.

Aren't you tired of calling the media liberal, it's not only old and tired, its dead wrong.

But old man, facts have never been your forte

Guest 03-22-2016 09:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202205)
They are doing a lot more than shoving. I mean Trump's violent supporters.

The Democratic candidates get their hecklers as well. They are usually handled civilly.

I'll buy some of that wacky weed, if you are selling.
:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:...:clap2:...:1rotfl:...:clap2:. ..

Guest 03-22-2016 09:52 AM

Trump's folks have failed when attempting to heckle at Democrat rallies. They couldn't stop laughing long enough to get serious about their heckling duty. They had to give up and call the whole thing off. It's the truth, ask Hillary.....:)

Guest 03-22-2016 09:56 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202212)
The media is in the conservatives pocket. Check Fox sometime. 100% conservative and they are the most watched news in the US.

Aren't you tired of calling the media liberal, it's not only old and tired, its dead wrong.

But old man, facts have never been your forte

So, I guess you consider ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN , BBC, etc. to be Conservative as well.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202237)
So, I guess you consider ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN , BBC, etc. to be Conservative as well.

yes as a matter of fact they are ... don't you know they are all owned by the same few parent companies? It was one of stupid changes to law made back in the 80s. Media no longer has to give equal time to candidates, which is why Trump gets all the free media and idiots (like you) support him. It used to be that no one could own more than so many media outlets. Once again a law changed in the 80s. Oh St. Ronnie you are the gift that keeps on giving.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202243)
yes as a matter of fact they are ... don't you know they are all owned by the same few parent companies? It was one of stupid changes to law made back in the 80s. Media no longer has to give equal time to candidates, which is why Trump gets all the free media and idiots (like you) support him. It used to be that no one could own more than so many media outlets. Once again a law changed in the 80s. Oh St. Ronnie you are the gift that keeps on giving.

Hey A-hole, I never said nor implied that I supported Trump. I just asked a you simple question. No need to resort to name calling, A-hole.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202249)
Hey A-hole, I never said nor implied that I supported Trump. I just asked a you simple question. No need to resort to name calling, A-hole.

you are right idiot, sorry.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202237)
So, I guess you consider ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN , BBC, etc. to be Conservative as well.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 03-22-2016 10:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202243)
yes as a matter of fact they are ... don't you know they are all owned by the same few parent companies? It was one of stupid changes to law made back in the 80s. Media no longer has to give equal time to candidates, which is why Trump gets all the free media and idiots (like you) support him. It used to be that no one could own more than so many media outlets. Once again a law changed in the 80s. Oh St. Ronnie you are the gift that keeps on giving.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 03-22-2016 10:46 AM

I feel sorry for the lone liberal on here. If this illiterate is so ignorant that he spouts idiocies day to day, how can anyone have the patience to discuss politics with the adults? I can see why conservatives have no respect for liberals and think that they are stupid. They believe in Republican conspiracies, and run amok in fear that someone is going to hurt them. But, as we all know IT'S BUSH's fault, until Trump takes that mantle.


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