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So what happens now? Do only the statues that pay homage and respect to Confederate Soldiers, who by the way are considered to be Veterans of The US, get torn down? Or do we continue on and branch out to the number of our Founding Fathers that were slave owners? How about Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson? They all were slave owners! Do we have to change the name of Washington DC? Is the Jefferson and Lincoln memorials coming down? You can't just pick and choose which history you want to abolish. If Slavery is the common point of contention, then you have to look at the whole spectrum. By the way, the early slaves and some after, were sold into slavery by Black Slave Owners!!
1) Civil War veterans, not the statues or plaques commemorating them were given Veteran standing.

2) Lincoln did not own any slaves

3) the history of slave ownership is not in the scope of this discussion, but America has a long history of discrimination up to this day, so, perhaps it is time to start changing that history
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It may have escaped you that there is a Constitutional separation of Church (that means ANY religion) and State. No legal assault has happened except those laws that restrict rights of women and the poor (which have been enacted by those states that have a Republican majority in their legislatures).

What is happening in Virginia is DOMESTIC TERRORISM and those of you on the alt-right are properly named TERRORISTS.
They're demonstrating for their rights...like all you people have been doing all along...you forget...white people aren't the majority any more...minorities are the majority.

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So what happens now? Do only the statues that pay homage and respect to Confederate Soldiers, who by the way are considered to be Veterans of The US, get torn down? Or do we continue on and branch out to the number of our Founding Fathers that were slave owners? How about Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson? They all were slave owners! Do we have to change the name of Washington DC? Is the Jefferson and Lincoln memorials coming down? You can't just pick and choose which history you want to abolish. If Slavery is the common point of contention, then you have to look at the whole spectrum. By the way, the early slaves and some after, were sold into slavery by Black Slave Owners!!
Sure you can...they do it all the time. "His-story" is rewritten all the time.
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1) Civil War veterans, not the statues or plaques commemorating them were given Veteran standing.

2) Lincoln did not own any slaves

3) the history of slave ownership is not in the scope of this discussion, but America has a long history of discrimination up to this day, so, perhaps it is time to start changing that history
1 - What are you going to put up instead? Some black or woman who played a minor role that you embellish?

2 - "In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear. “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites. What he did believe was that, like all men, blacks had the right to improve their condition in society and to enjoy the fruits of their labor."

"For much of his career, Lincoln believed that colonization—or the idea that a majority of the African-American population should leave the United States and settle in Africa or Central America—was the best way to confront the problem of slavery. His two great political heroes, Henry Clay and Thomas Jefferson, had both favored colonization; both were slave owners who took issue with aspects of slavery but saw no way that blacks and whites could live together peaceably. Lincoln first publicly advocated for colonization in 1852, and in 1854 said that his first instinct would be “to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia” (the African state founded by the American Colonization Society in 1821)."

"Emancipation was a military policy.

As much as he hated the institution of slavery, Lincoln didn’t see the Civil War as a struggle to free the nation’s 4 million slaves from bondage. Emancipation, when it came, would have to be gradual, and the important thing to do was to prevent the Southern rebellion from severing the Union permanently in two. But as the Civil War entered its second summer in 1862, thousands of slaves had fled Southern plantations to Union lines, and the federal government didn’t have a clear policy on how to deal with them. Emancipation, Lincoln saw, would further undermine the Confederacy while providing the Union with a new source of manpower to crush the rebellion."

"The Emancipation Proclamation didn’t actually free all of the slaves.

Since Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri, all of which had remained loyal to the Union. Lincoln also exempted selected areas of the Confederacy that had already come under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In practice, then, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave, as the only places it applied were places where the federal government had no control—the Southern states currently fighting against the Union."

5 Things You May Not Know About Lincoln, Slavery and Emancipation - History in the Headlines


3 - A history of DESERVED discrimination. Growing up...how many blacks were your equal or better? How many blacks were better at math? Better at English? Better at reading? Writing? They were stronger and tougher...that's about it.

We discriminate against children...we don't let THEM vote because they're not intellectually equipped to handle voting...neither are the blacks. We don't let men play in women's divisions because they'd dominate...just as white people dominate most professions. It's not really discrimination when it's for a reason. They're just NOT as good...in most things.
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1 - What are you going to put up instead? Some black or woman who played a minor role that you embellish?

2 - "In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear. “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites. What he did believe was that, like all men, blacks had the right to improve their condition in society and to enjoy the fruits of their labor."

"For much of his career, Lincoln believed that colonization—or the idea that a majority of the African-American population should leave the United States and settle in Africa or Central America—was the best way to confront the problem of slavery. His two great political heroes, Henry Clay and Thomas Jefferson, had both favored colonization; both were slave owners who took issue with aspects of slavery but saw no way that blacks and whites could live together peaceably. Lincoln first publicly advocated for colonization in 1852, and in 1854 said that his first instinct would be “to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia” (the African state founded by the American Colonization Society in 1821)."

"Emancipation was a military policy.

As much as he hated the institution of slavery, Lincoln didn’t see the Civil War as a struggle to free the nation’s 4 million slaves from bondage. Emancipation, when it came, would have to be gradual, and the important thing to do was to prevent the Southern rebellion from severing the Union permanently in two. But as the Civil War entered its second summer in 1862, thousands of slaves had fled Southern plantations to Union lines, and the federal government didn’t have a clear policy on how to deal with them. Emancipation, Lincoln saw, would further undermine the Confederacy while providing the Union with a new source of manpower to crush the rebellion."

"The Emancipation Proclamation didn’t actually free all of the slaves.

Since Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri, all of which had remained loyal to the Union. Lincoln also exempted selected areas of the Confederacy that had already come under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In practice, then, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave, as the only places it applied were places where the federal government had no control—the Southern states currently fighting against the Union."

5 Things You May Not Know About Lincoln, Slavery and Emancipation - History in the Headlines


3 - A history of DESERVED discrimination. Growing up...how many blacks were your equal or better? How many blacks were better at math? Better at English? Better at reading? Writing? They were stronger and tougher...that's about it.

We discriminate against children...we don't let THEM vote because they're not intellectually equipped to handle voting...neither are the blacks. We don't let men play in women's divisions because they'd dominate...just as white people dominate most professions. It's not really discrimination when it's for a reason. They're just NOT as good...in most things.
The starch in your white hooded KKK uniform is much to heavy...
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The starch in your white hooded KKK uniform is much to heavy...
Oh come on boy, put some cartoon pictures up that disprove the data that Don posted...you got him on the ropes, he might be close to admitting you are equal with African Americans.

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That's all you got for Don's data??

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That's all you got for Don's data??

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It's ALL they EVER have...name calling.

Because they are WRONG...we are NOT equal and NEVER will be.

Your dog will never start it's own business, it won't graduate college, and it's NOT "human".

Neither are/will blacks...without quotas and affirmative action.

Don't be fooled by the 1% that are paraded in front of us on TV...the 99% live in the inner cities and they are NOT us...they are NOT "people" you want around.
 

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