Originally Posted by Guest

Kaine, the clown will probably have to take over for her before long.

Does he look like WC Fields?

And with homeland security () in charge of the election there will be plenty of lattitude and acceptable excuses for having voted more than once; plus any warm body of any age....or using their name.......

How can anybody with a brain NOT WANT voter registration along with voter ID?

That issue in and of itself should explain the loosey goosey election results......with an auto wave of the arm by homeland security.

Homeland security's other job, is to hold up and challenge any and all locations that are overwhelmingly Trump supported.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm ME and I'm not cattle or sheep...I'll vote for NEITHER of the crooks. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

There is no illegal third term. Your parroting makes you look like a fool

Originally Posted by Guest

you may want to consider expanding your sources

What source would you trust ? Post a note on the sources you trust and I will do your research.

I might add two things. Do not list Fox or Breitbart ,

Secondly, all this pompous talk comes with a price tag, as he accuses everyone else of enlarging national debt.

"Trump laid out policy proposals Wednesday night, and for many of them, we can provide at least a rough estimate of the cost using a variety of sources. There are some programs, though, for which we don't have solid details or estimates.

According to the numbers we do have, Trump's plan would add $51.2 billion and $66.9 billion in immigration enforcement costs over the next five years."

Trump’s big immigration crackdown comes with big 5-year price tag: More than $50 billion - The Washington Post

The link supplies details, and if you don't like that number...there are higher cost reduction. I will be glad to research that for you.

This fantasy costs money

"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider

Originally Posted by Guest

I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

I think you're mistaken. Trump is bought and paid for. Bought and paid for by Trump himself.

Originally Posted by Guest

"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider

Beyond the cost, who is going to replace them? Restaurants, hotels, etc. would be in deep trouble. Think Las Vegas. Also who's going to replace the agricultural workers? Rather than running them out on a rail we'd be much better off giving them a chance to become citizens through a controlled amnesty program.

Originally Posted by Guest

Beyond the cost, who is going to replace them? Restaurants, hotels, etc. would be in deep trouble. Think Las Vegas. Also who's going to replace the agricultural workers? Rather than running them out on a rail we'd be much better off giving them a chance to become citizens through a controlled amnesty program.

Gee...that sounds familiar.

Of course Trump made fun of it, the people who proposed it, AND their family.

Originally Posted by Guest

Another desperate and confused liberal. My, my, my!
Lies? I hear you make that statement, but I do not hear you give us his quoted lies from his speech. Trump ate Hillary's lunch and the polls are proving it. And Nov 8 will be the ultimate proof.

I am not a liberal, and I am mot confused.

At the beginning of the speech, he stated Obama has an open border policy. Later, he stated that Obama, and Clinton had a catch and release policy on the border. Obama has deported more illegals than every other president. Most of these were either caught or turned themselves at the border. Trump praised Obama for this, and he said he would continue that policy. trump isn't lying. He is just talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

He stated that illegals cost 113 billion a year. This number comes from a conservative group. Trump stating it as fact is a lie. It isn't a fact. Illegal Immigrants Cost U.S. $100 Billion per Year, Conservative Group Says About Illegal Immigration - ABC News

"Illegals workers draw much more out from the system than they can ever possibly pay back." Again, read the article above, and look at the jobs that work at. They are the bottom of the totem pole. Alabama put in tough immigration laws, and it also put the farmers out of business. No one wanted to do the work of picking fruit/vegetables/ etc. The crops died.

"They are treated better than vets." That is total nonsense.

He stated that 2 million were criminals. The estimates are between 600,000 and 2,000,000. are criminals. An honest person would used some number in the middle.

He has made the wall and Mexico paying for it as his signature policy. The previous Mexican president, and the current one have both stated that Mexico will not pay for the wall.

I could go on and on, but it would fall on deaf ears. So, I am not going to waste any more of my time. Besides, reading his speech really or what past for a speech

but you're basing your argument on a 6 year old article?

113 billion is the correct dollar amount.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am not a liberal, and I am mot confused.

At the beginning of the speech, he stated Obama has an open border policy. Later, he stated that Obama, and Clinton had a catch and release policy on the border. Obama has deported more illegals than every other president. Most of these were either caught or turned themselves at the border. Trump praised Obama for this, and he said he would continue that policy. trump isn't lying. He is just talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

He stated that illegals cost 113 billion a year. This number comes from a conservative group. Trump stating it as fact is a lie. It isn't a fact. Illegal Immigrants Cost U.S. $100 Billion per Year, Conservative Group Says About Illegal Immigration - ABC News

"Illegals workers draw much more out from the system than they can ever possibly pay back." Again, read the article above, and look at the jobs that work at. They are the bottom of the totem pole. Alabama put in tough immigration laws, and it also put the farmers out of business. No one wanted to do the work of picking fruit/vegetables/ etc. The crops died.

"They are treated better than vets." That is total nonsense.

He stated that 2 million were criminals. The estimates are between 600,000 and 2,000,000. are criminals. An honest person would used some number in the middle.

He has made the wall and Mexico paying for it as his signature policy. The previous Mexican president, and the current one have both stated that Mexico will not pay for the wall.

I could go on and on, but it would fall on deaf ears. So, I am not going to waste any more of my time. Besides, reading his speech really or what past for a speech

So you think 600,000 to 2,000,000,000 criminals roaming around is fine! No wonder Obama got elected twice!

Not that hard to get Mexico to pay for the wall, just charge them a very small % of what we spend on social services for their citizens!

Originally Posted by Guest

"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider

Money well spent

Originally Posted by Guest

Money well spent

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I will contribute to that, but I can't, next best thing.....


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