Originally Posted by Guest

Nuckylhead, try to organize your thoughts just once. Take something for the tics and concentrate.

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All this crap on here about the NFL, and the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 24 HOURS CALLING FREE SPEECH DISGUSTING AND DISRESPECTING ON NATIONAL TV, OUR FLAG AND TRADITION.....and having fun doing it.

And it appears that nobody cares.

I say again...the Republican party stands for NOTHING AT ALL and they used to......

PEOPLE who feel this is unimportant continue to talk as if they were proud Americans....patriots.....

They allow a sitting President to do this publicly for the entire world to see and think nothing of it.

Dont tell me that we are not at a crisis point in this country.

Originally Posted by Guest

Carry on your all doing a great job straightening out our country. I can feel the difference already.

Best line on this forum so far from someone you all seem to enjoy kicking around and beating up with your unkind remarks.

Originally Posted by Guest

Best line on this forum so far from someone you all seem to enjoy kicking around and beating up with your unkind remarks.

Meaning ?

We have a thread with no "fake news" as anything bad about Trump is called, showing his disrespect for free speech, the flag and military traditions, and this becomes a race to completely avoid the subject. His stupidity and hypocritical stand on the NFL is mentioned on here and the main board as if it has any lasting effect.

You ignore the ethics complaints, the money being raked in behind our backs by the Trump family, the hypocrisy of usung private computers, his demeaning comments about a disaster area, and so much more...

Ignoring all this especially his trashing of free speech and on national tv dishonring our flag and tradition sort of puts you in a certain niche

Originally Posted by Guest

I didn't know you were a woman and I didn't hurl my insult at you but at your crack headed attempt....you know what...this isn't worth it at all. Carry on your all doing a great job straightening out our country. I can feel the difference already.

This part confuses me or maybe your confused?

Carry on your all doing a great job straightening out our country. I can feel the difference already.

Last time I checked, the President is Republican, both the Senate and the House of Representatives are controlled by Republicans!

My party is totally out of power..... but the difference is obvious!

COPUFF

Originally Posted by Guest

Meaning ?

We have a thread with no "fake news" as anything bad about Trump is called, showing his disrespect for free speech, the flag and military traditions, and this becomes a race to completely avoid the subject. His stupidity and hypocritical stand on the NFL is mentioned on here and the main board as if it has any lasting effect.

You ignore the ethics complaints, the money being raked in behind our backs by the Trump family, the hypocrisy of usung private computers, his demeaning comments about a disaster area, and so much more...

Ignoring all this especially his trashing of free speech and on national tv dishonring our flag and tradition sort of puts you in a certain niche

Meaning the sarcasm of his post was not lost on me. It's not all about Trump, you know. It should be more about all of us, as a country, pulling together whether you like him or not. I have honestly not heard this level of whining and moaning since I last walked into the first day of a nursery school class. I believe the poster's point was that all of this whining and moaning is not productive. I say "kudos" to that! Discussion is lacking on this forum, not only because of the one-line, smart-aleck remarks, or the name calling, but because no one here is willing to discuss unless the person agrees with their viewpoint. What kind of discussion is that?!? Maybe all of us with alternative viewpoints should leave this forum and then you can call it the "whine and moan" forum, because it's definitely not discussing anything, especially politics.

And why do you continue to try and label me or put me in a group? What is that all about?

Originally Posted by Guest

Meaning the sarcasm of his post was not lost on me. It's not all about Trump, you know. It should be more about all of us, as a country, pulling together whether you like him or not. I have honestly not heard this level of whining and moaning since I last walked into the first day of a nursery school class. I believe the poster's point was that all of this whining and moaning is not productive. I say "kudos" to that! Discussion is lacking on this forum, not only because of the one-line, smart-aleck remarks, or the name calling, but because no one here is willing to discuss unless the person agrees with their viewpoint. What kind of discussion is that?!? Maybe all of us with alternative viewpoints should leave this forum and then you can call it the "whine and moan" forum, because it's definitely not discussing anything, especially politics.

And why do you continue to try and label me or put me in a group? What is that all about?

I, personally, have tried to "draw" folks into a discussion of issues and/or substance for quite some time.

Most times, those who are praised by your group, or if you prefer, folks with like minds, you get from folks who are then praised for their substantive post is a rant that will say "all progressives this" or liberals are this or that. Followed by compliments for being so into issues. I have tried to begin conversations over the past year on Syria, foreign relations, ISIS only to immediately turn into OBama bashing, or Clinton bashing.

Trump is the President. You begin a thread showing me even one attempt at uniting the country, but if you are fair, you must include the divisive comments. He is the leader...he is supposed to try but he does the opposite. Protestors, whomever they are are not "sons of bitches". People with brown shirts marching in the name of Nazi' do not have good people.

It IS all about Trump. HE IS the President...he sets the tone, and he has.

When the President of the United States talks, it should be measured as the entire world will hear every word he says and react. When he accuses his predecessor of wiretapping him, the world listens, when he engages in teen rhetoric with North Korea, the world listens and worries. He is not in a campaign and hasn't been for a year, yet he continues to mock anyone who disagrees with him. He recently called for the resignation of a duly elected US senator (Corker) who happens to head our Foreign Relations because he disagrees, and the President gets support on her for that. I suppose the term loyal opposition is archaic now, or actually any opposition.

He has had many opportunities to at least try . His behavior with the Boy Scouts was beyond deplorable.

How can a political forum avoid this kind of behavior ?

In addition, as a long standing (original member) of the political forum, threads begun about OBama, many from me were certainly met with resistance, but factual or reasoned discussion....not, the media is lying (even in the face of video or exact quotes). Seems you have given total rein to Trump to pick and choose what is truth.

You have to someday come to terms with the fact that he WANTS to control the media and thus his followers. When he says he finds free speech disgusting, and he did, or does what he did with our military and the flag just the other day, that is news. OR would be with any other President, but on this forum, it is ignored.

My bottom line is, if the only answer avaialable is the media lies (WITH NEVER SUBSTANTION) or some diatribe on Clinton or OBama then you are simply avoiding facts.

Have you, in your life, ever heard any other President mouth the false, mean spirited, self serving things that come from our WH ? Actually, you know business....how long would a CEO last talking as he does ? Not long for sure.

This is not a television show. The world listens and they react. There is a reason that over 70% of our own citizens feel he is mentally unfit for office.

How can his actions. Lies, accusations from our Oval Office NOT BE discussed ?
There is no defense of him, thus there is no discussion as the subject is changed.

I am tired of the "media lies"...each time I see that, and this includes you, I ask for examples and never ever get one. I am speaking of news, not commentary. Having a President so unstable, he sees fit to PERSONALLY attack anyone who disagrees is unnerving and worthy of discussion.

Oh, if I labeled you, I am truely sorry because I hate labeling, but only react to your support for people who are simply trolls or filthy mouthed posters. I say SUPPORT, because you suppress your criticisms of them, actually praise the labeling of some who simply chant..."all progressives bad" or refer to them as a libtard. I used to be a Republican, but from here I have no idea what the Republican Party stands for,. It is surely not morals, standard, small government, lack of government intervention as it used to be, and it appears from the "discussion" on here they are simply anti anything or anybody who even hints at disagreement with the President.

Originally Posted by Guest

Nuckylhead, try to organize your thoughts just once. Take something for the tics and concentrate.

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No No No Tic tac tics here. Anyone who says that our President isn't an aggravating person much of the time is just living in a dream world. I have him on my block list till monday. Hows that for resolving tics. You're a berry funny person. I still support the man but is he to much or what, relentless, good stuff but holy ****.

You gotta admit he is a piece of work. Let him do his thing and if their is a country still here we may be better off. I wouldn't take any **** from these nuclear countries either. Screw those countries let's do this right now and get it straightened out now. Gonna go, time for the tic medicine. Hey Chi, when I congratulated you on the Cubs win last year it was a tic, I was lying because they suck. Smile it's just a joke. Go Yankees.

Originally Posted by Nucky

No No No Tic tac tics here. Anyone who says that our President isn't an aggravating person much of the time is just living in a dream world. I have him on my block list till monday. Hows that for resolving tics. You're a berry funny person. I still support the man but is he to much or what, relentless, good stuff but holy ****.

You gotta admit he is a piece of work. Let him do his thing and if their is a country still here we may be better off. I wouldn't take any **** from these nuclear countries either. Screw those countries let's do this right now and get it straightened out now. Gonna go, time for the tic medicine. Hey Chi, when I congratulated you on the Cubs win last year it was a tic, I was lying because they suck. Smile it's just a joke. Go Yankees.

You stated in a thread that Carl in Tampa initiated that you did not like the political forum because or all the disparaging remarks, yet look at your post 16.

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Originally Posted by Guest

I, personally, have tried to "draw" folks into a discussion of issues and/or substance for quite some time.

Most times, those who are praised by your group, or if you prefer, folks with like minds, you get from folks who are then praised for their substantive post is a rant that will say "all progressives this" or liberals are this or that. Followed by compliments for being so into issues. I have tried to begin conversations over the past year on Syria, foreign relations, ISIS only to immediately turn into OBama bashing, or Clinton bashing.

Trump is the President. You begin a thread showing me even one attempt at uniting the country, but if you are fair, you must include the divisive comments. He is the leader...he is supposed to try but he does the opposite. Protestors, whomever they are are not "sons of bitches". People with brown shirts marching in the name of Nazi' do not have good people.

It IS all about Trump. HE IS the President...he sets the tone, and he has.

When the President of the United States talks, it should be measured as the entire world will hear every word he says and react. When he accuses his predecessor of wiretapping him, the world listens, when he engages in teen rhetoric with North Korea, the world listens and worries. He is not in a campaign and hasn't been for a year, yet he continues to mock anyone who disagrees with him. He recently called for the resignation of a duly elected US senator (Corker) who happens to head our Foreign Relations because he disagrees, and the President gets support on her for that. I suppose the term loyal opposition is archaic now, or actually any opposition.

He has had many opportunities to at least try . His behavior with the Boy Scouts was beyond deplorable.

How can a political forum avoid this kind of behavior ?

In addition, as a long standing (original member) of the political forum, threads begun about OBama, many from me were certainly met with resistance, but factual or reasoned discussion....not, the media is lying (even in the face of video or exact quotes). Seems you have given total rein to Trump to pick and choose what is truth.

You have to someday come to terms with the fact that he WANTS to control the media and thus his followers. When he says he finds free speech disgusting, and he did, or does what he did with our military and the flag just the other day, that is news. OR would be with any other President, but on this forum, it is ignored.

My bottom line is, if the only answer avaialable is the media lies (WITH NEVER SUBSTANTION) or some diatribe on Clinton or OBama then you are simply avoiding facts.

Have you, in your life, ever heard any other President mouth the false, mean spirited, self serving things that come from our WH ? Actually, you know business....how long would a CEO last talking as he does ? Not long for sure.

This is not a television show. The world listens and they react. There is a reason that over 70% of our own citizens feel he is mentally unfit for office.

How can his actions. Lies, accusations from our Oval Office NOT BE discussed ?
There is no defense of him, thus there is no discussion as the subject is changed.

I am tired of the "media lies"...each time I see that, and this includes you, I ask for examples and never ever get one. I am speaking of news, not commentary. Having a President so unstable, he sees fit to PERSONALLY attack anyone who disagrees is unnerving and worthy of discussion.

Oh, if I labeled you, I am truely sorry because I hate labeling, but only react to your support for people who are simply trolls or filthy mouthed posters. I say SUPPORT, because you suppress your criticisms of them, actually praise the labeling of some who simply chant..."all progressives bad" or refer to them as a libtard. I used to be a Republican, but from here I have no idea what the Republican Party stands for,. It is surely not morals, standard, small government, lack of government intervention as it used to be, and it appears from the "discussion" on here they are simply anti anything or anybody who even hints at disagreement with the President.

This seems very reasonable and what you would expect to hear in any debate that focuses on facts and reasoning from those but all we see most of the time from many people on the Political Forum are personal attacks or vast over-generalizations.