Originally Posted by Guest

The 'protective' press pool, established as a result of JFK's murder, will be abolished after over fifty years in existence.

They gave us a close-up view of the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan and W Bush being informed of the World Trade attack, but Trump sees no need for it. It's a waste of money.

So they will hang a 'gone fishin' sign on their office and let Trump fend for himself.

Get over it. If you look at the post above you will see that Obama did it also. Or, is he given a pass because he is.....you know......?

Originally Posted by Guest

Amazing how many crybabies on here, when I thought this was mostly seniors from The Villages. Trump is this and Trump is that. Well, one thing you will learn is that Trump will be a hundred percent better than Obama. Yes, Obama is very well spoken. Harry Reid said Obama speaks very good "white" when he wants to. After you all get done telling us how despicable he is, forgetting about how nasty and despicable the Clintons are, remember that he is YOUR PRESIDENT now. What difference does it make to anyone/ANYONE how close the vote was? Like the saying goes "close only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades." Hitlery lost and is a very poor loser. Personally, it would not matter to me if Billy and Hitlery both jumped off a cliff or took poison together. Unfortunately for America, I fear that we have not seen the last of that cancer.

I do hope that Obummer pardons Hitlery, because that will take one item off of Trump's already full plate of things to correct from the last administration. And there are so many crybabies that we would probably lose half the country to suicide if Hitlery was convicted. And she would be convicted in a fair court.

Don't you have to at least be accused of a crime before you receive a presidential pardon? Are we still a country that has due process? How about innocent until proven guilty?

Originally Posted by Guest

Don't you have to at least be accused of a crime before you receive a presidential pardon? Are we still a country that has due process? How about innocent until proven guilty?

No, you do not have to be indicted to be pardoned. And the president can pardon himself also.

Originally Posted by Guest

No, you do not have to be indicted to be pardoned. And the president can pardon himself also.

So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

I understand it this way

Mr. X is pardoned from any criminal acts defined or not before this date.

Originally Posted by Guest

So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

Amazingly enough...that is correct.

The precedent was actually set back in the Civil War era and was a question being floated...when Bush left office.

Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

Wait—can a president really pardon someone who hasn't even been charged with a crime?

Yep. In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.)

Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

Which brings up an interesting scenario.

Suppose Obama 'pardons' every undocumented person in the country (regarding being here illegally)...on the day he leaves office?

What then?

Originally Posted by Guest

So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

How old are you? Does your grandma know you are playing on her computer?

Originally Posted by Guest

Amazingly enough...that is correct.

The precedent was actually set back in the Civil War era and was a question being floated...when Bush left office.

Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?



Which brings up an interesting scenario.

Suppose Obama 'pardons' every undocumented person in the country (regarding being here illegally)...on the day he leaves office?

What then?

Funny that you mention that. If you read your current events, you will see that he is thinking of pardoning 750K illegal aliens. He is just wondering how to go about it. He can not give a blanket pardon. It has to be specific by individual name. He has a lot of work to do in order to get it done, and we all know he prefers to play or campaign than to do his work. I am sue he will find some staff to do all the foot work so he can just sign his name to it later.