Trump will run as an independent, if he doesn't get the Republican nomination. Have you seen any indication at all, that he will accept defeat for the nomination? The man thinks that he can do no wrong. He was on Morning Joe this week. He attack Joe Scarborough, and Joe had a hard time not laughing. Trump complaint was in one comparisons among the Republicans running, Trump wasn't mentioned, and Trump took offense.

Joe told him too calm down. Trump thinks that it is all about Trump. After Trump left the air, the talk was you could praise Trump on 95% of the items, and disagreement with 5%. He will only talk about the 5% items, and never finish an argument until you agree with him, or just leave a no win situation.

Trump also said the illegals that have been a long time, and haven't broken any laws should be given legal status. That is going to go over real well in the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Guest

What is Trump's position on the Export/Import Bank? On Obamacare? On Planned Parenthood? On late term abortions? He only speaks about building a wall to keep out illegal immigrants and bringing jobs from China and Japan. How will you do that Donald

You are right. Trump has not spoken on other issues. He is all fluff and hot air. Just getting his ME time and is the biggest blowhard there ever has been.

He is SO vain that he will run as a 3rd party and will hand the election to the Democratic party.

Blame Donald for Hillary!

Let's just all voice our opinions without attacking each other. We can do it. We are all adults

I like Trump too, but he is not presidential and if his ego rushes him to judgment by running 3rd party , Aloha Hillary!

Originally Posted by Guest

As someone who posted quite a bit on the old political forum and this new GUEST format forum, I honestly believe it is time to shut this down.

The HATE here is palpable and the posts have lost all reason.

I have strong opinions, but have tried not to call anyone vicious names, except in an effort to shut down their hate. AND THAT WAS WRONG TO DO.

Way back, a sharing of thoughts took place. No longer.

I believe it should be closed down. I certainly will GUARANTEE this time, I am done.

Some are coming on here to simply spread hate, and that is just scary.

To the Admin...thanks for the effort. Good luck to all, and to those who think this is false, I can only say...goodbye and good luck.

My wish for everybody is that they read a lot ON BOTH SIDES, and not just one, and that we all brush up on our comprehension skills. I also hope freedom for those, on both sides of the aisle, who are so party oriented it has trapped them and disallowed growth outside what a few wish you to think

I have been on here since 2007, and actually will miss it, but there is enough hate in the world without being exposed to more on a local forum with neighbors.

Just like the Terminator, you'll be back.

A parting disagreement!
It is too easy to manage opposition, especially those not known and in anonymity....
therefore no reason th shut down this forum.
Adios!

Originally Posted by Guest

Some pundits are suggesting that if Trump runs as a third party candidate and takes his supporters with him, republicans will only get about 30% of the vote.

It's hard to see what their winning strategy is when they alienate Hispanics (17% of the population), alienate African Americans (13% of the population), alienate women (53 % of the population), alienate Muslims, alienate the LGBT community, alienate young people.

There just are not enough old white people in the Party Of Old People to win an election going forward.

"Alienate?" How so? Or is this just accusations from the other side, so it must be so? Sounds like something that the liberal media might be responsible for. I have yet to hear anything that would "alienate" those groups, unless the threat of cutting back on their handouts is the issue.

I don't believe Trump will run as third party. He is leading in the Republican party. He IS a Republican, and he knows that he would be handing the election to Billary. Say what you will about him, I doubt he is spiteful enough to hand the Democrats the election.

Originally Posted by Guest

What is Trump's position on the Export/Import Bank? On Obamacare? On Planned Parenthood? On late term abortions? He only speaks about building a wall to keep out illegal immigrants and bringing jobs from China and Japan. How will you do that Donald?

Trump said last week in Laredo that he is running as a republican, and he is leading in all the polls by double digits. It is difficult to run as a third party candidate, just getting on the ballot in all 50 states, and why should he? He is at the head of the table.

Dear Guest: You misunderstand my message. I am ambivalent concerning Trump and not at all sure if I would vote for him.

for instance I like his bombastic approach because its shaking up the base but prefer a more measure intellectual approach that focuses on the issues and not people.

To be perfectly honest with you I am very interested in hearing more from Carly Fiorina but the news media keep her at bay. I want he to debate on Aug 6 but I don't believe that is going to happen Every time I have heard her speak she makes more sense. she is a breath of honest fresh air with the Trump antics. I have repeatedly submitted to the GOP National my desire to hear her debate.

I have repeatedly submitted to the GOP National that the Republican brand is going down the drain with the immigration issue, common Core EXport/Import and its inability to knock Obama off his perch.
I have explained that the GOP's desire to attract Hispanic/black votes alienates its base and ignores the Asian vote and Asian fully participate
Beside which the Hispanic voter is widely dispersed community from an ethnicity point and also ideological

Listen to Fiorina she could knock Clinton out of the race better than any other GOP candidate if the Republican national Party would give her some room

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

"Alienate?" How so? Or is this just accusations from the other side, so it must be so? Sounds like something that the liberal media might be responsible for. I have yet to hear anything that would "alienate" those groups, unless the threat of cutting back on their handouts is the issue.

Does anyone think that Trump's birther tirade over the past seven, eight years against the first black president is going to endear him to black voters?

Does anyone think that Trump's remarks about Mexican immigrants being rapists and criminals sets well with Hispanics? He also included Cubans in his diatribe, which was true when Fidel Castro emptied his prisons and mental hospitals and shipped those Cubans to the US during the Mariel boatlift, but that was 40/50 years ago and can't be corrected now.

Eventually he will have to take a position on women's issues and gay marriage, although he has stated various positions in the past. Trump has also strongly supported single-payer healthcare for all. Should be an interesting debate next week.

I doubt that anything anyone says about "the first black president" is going to change voter turn out. Obama has equally let down every aspect of society with his flip-flop and catering to the Islamic enemy.
One statement about illegal aliens shouldn't have much effect on LEGAL votes.
If he stays away from the liberal traps regarding issues abortion and gay marriage, already a moot point, he could fair well in the debates.

I am not prepared to vote for him myself, but he does have a large lead in the polls. Many folks were fooled by Obama's rants when he was running, so what's the difference here, other than the fact that this one has a reputation for success and Obama had NO resume' whatsoever. Trump does not have that factor of being the "first" in anything that I can discern, so Billary does have him beat there. Like Obama's being "the first" Billary is also running on her being "the first." That's ALL she has going for her right now, and that may not even be enough to get her past all her mistakes to take the primary, let alone the general election.
I'm still kind of leaning toward Kasich myself. But, if Trump gets the nomination to run against the liberal or socialist, he'll get my vote.

Originally Posted by Guest

I like Trump too, but he is not presidential and if his ego rushes him to judgment by running 3rd party , Aloha Hillary!

Not presidential?? Oh my God no one is less presidentiall than Obama he is going down as the worst in history and Hillary just another obama

Trump has his competition by the short hairs. That's how he does business. Hard to fault that as long it works. And it is working oh so well. In 2012 when Michele Bachmann and Heman Cain had their crazy runs the RNC had Romney in the wings as the electable candidate. There was a feeling that when all settled down the party could focus on the election. That scenario no longer exists.

Trump has dictated that all play by his rules and play nice. If not, he's on his own. And what is there to stop him? As long as he is #1 he will run as a Republican. If he is ganged up on just think of him in the board room. I think that the upcoming debate will show which candidates don't want to be "fired" and which will incur his wrath. Let the games begin!

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump has his competition by the short hairs. That's how he does business. Hard to fault that as long it works. And it is working oh so well. In 2012 when Michele Bachmann and Heman Cain had their crazy runs the RNC had Romney in the wings as the electable candidate. There was a feeling that when all settled down the party could focus on the election. That scenario no longer exists.

Trump has dictated that all play by his rules and play nice. If not, he's on his own. And what is there to stop him? As long as he is #1 he will run as a Republican. If he is ganged up on just think of him in the board room. I think that the upcoming debate will show which candidates don't want to be "fired" and which will incur his wrath. Let the games begin!

So true, and Fox News has the other candidates eating their own just to get some attention. Since when did cable news get to pick who can stay and who must go. Isn't cable news supposed to report the news and not make the news?

Murdock and Ales will sit down soon and decide who can appear in the debate next week. Meanwhile, the others will continue to burn their phones, chain-saw the tax code, and make statements about Obama leading Jews to the ovens. At least he didn't say 'and then he lit the match'.

The GOP, with much help from Donald Trump, has turned the presidential election into reality TV. The only thing missing, so far, is Sarah Palin and Josh Duggar.

There is one thing we appear to see eye to eye. It is John Kasich. A Republican that extends Medicaid benefits under the ACA to his people in his state. He put people above politics. He also has plenty of experience in government. He has also been away from the total nonsense most of fueled by his party in the last six and half years.

Presidents Obama's place in history will be somewhere in the middle. That smiley face jumping up and down will turn into a frown. Too bad! So sad!! The Republicans in Comgress for the past six and half years will be the worse in our history, and there isn't a close second. Obstruction! Obstruction! Obstruction! Criticize, Condemn, and complain! Offer any alternative that makes sense? No my job man!. My job is to do nothing, and I am damn proud of it.

Go Dump go! Lead the charge of the hopelessly insane into the valley of total nonsense. Do it loudly with gusto and arms waving. It is not like they have any idea what they are in store for them when they hit the wall. Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Finish that wall. See how easy to make fun of the Republican party. The only thing that is next to impossible to do is have them actually listen to anyone, who oppose them. They are always right. A great example is the Iraq war. What could go wrong there?Close to four thousand lives, and trillions of dollars. That is almost as bad as Benghazi!
The gift that keeps on giving for the Republicans do nothings.