I can't agree with the health bill that's being proposed, but when was a law passed that prohibits 65+ from getting the vaccine for H1N1? Laws are passed by Congress and I don't think they have. As I understand the distribution, the priority is set by the CDC, but allows for exceptions in certain circumstances. They base the distribution on their determination of most at risk and the older the population, the better they resist it. I think they have determined that the babies and young adults have the least natural immunity. I've been traveling and haven't kept up too much with the news this week so the most at risk determination could have changed. (Isn't the CDC also non-partisan?)

There is some good in every person so I don't subscribe to your thinking that one person can be the devil and the other a saint. I think they all have things we can learn from. I don't think any election was stolen and believe that is just another way in closing the mind and trying to justify a hurt.
I see you use Eleanor Roosevelt as your picture. One time I played chop sticks with her on the piano and in another case I use to wait on her and pack her bags at a supermarket when I was in highschool. She was a wonderful, caring person and we were lucky to have had her as a first lady and an example for the youth.
Of course I cannot agree with you to let the government make medical decisions. It is another step in converting the country to either a socialist or worse facist state. In my mind it is the first step and a dangerous one at that.

Originally Posted by REH7380

There is some good in every person so I don't subscribe to your thinking that one person can be the devil and the other a saint. I think they all have things we can learn from. I don't think any election was stolen and believe that is just another way in closing the mind and trying to justify a hurt.
I see you use Eleanor Roosevelt as your picture. One time I played chop sticks with her on the piano and in another case I use to wait on her and pack her bags at a supermarket when I was in highschool. She was a wonderful, caring person and we were lucky to have had her as a first lady and an example for the youth.
Of course I cannot agree with you to let the government make medical decisions. It is another step in converting the country to either a socialist or worse facist state. In my mind it is the first step and a dangerous one at that.

Thank you for the Eleanor comments... I don't think I am suggesting that the government make healthcare decisions by restricting the 1st wave of vaccine for population classes most affected by that type of flu. I suspect that your opinions on end of life decisions and mine will be different. My parents, esp my mother, explained in detail quality of life issues and the Catholic doctrine of "No extraordinary means". I am no socialist nor facist. But I do have a Living Will and a Medical Power of Attorney"

I was wondering about this statement: There is some good in every person so I don't subscribe to your thinking that one person can be the devil and the other a saint. Then I remembered Dick Cheney...I really have a hard time with him. But I believe there is good and bad in everyone.

Originally Posted by REH7380

The current law on the distribution of the Swine Flu vaccine is: The last who qualify are those 65 and older.!! If a Dr. has a patient 65 or older who has a problem and should have the vaccine the only way he can give it is by breaking the law !!
THIS IS THE CURRENT LAW..Now maybe one of those healthcare supporters can tell me how this is not a form of "thinning out the herd of 65+" which is what the government is not supporting but demanding. There goes grandma..

There is NO LAW....it was a recommendation from the CDC when they thought the vaccine would be in short supply. Now they have enough for everyone when it becomes available.

Where in the world did this come from?

If a Dr. has a patient 65 or older who has a problem and should have the vaccine the only way he can give it is by breaking the law !!

and think. And we know how actual and factual and unbiased they are (excuse me ).

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

and think. And we know how actual and factual and unbiased they are (excuse me ).

btk

I disagree....we know him by what he says and does....Its enough for me.

Originally Posted by cologal

I disagree....we know him by what he says and does....Its enough for me.

I know you consider him to be evil, but wondered if you knew he was responsible as Secy of Defense for streamlining the military and drastically cutting costs.....also as Secy of Defense was running the original Gulf War thought to be very successful...in the early 90's he was the one of very few who worried about Iran, Iraq and N Korea and thier ability to get nuclear weapons.

Not trying to change your mind, but thought you should know things about somebody you feel is a demon in every way !

Originally Posted by Bucco

I know you consider him to be evil, but wondered if you knew he was responsible as Secy of Defense for streamlining the military and drastically cutting costs.....also as Secy of Defense was running the original Gulf War thought to be very successful...in the early 90's he was the one of very few who worried about Iran, Iraq and N Korea and thier ability to get nuclear weapons.

Not trying to change your mind, but thought you should know things about somebody you feel is a demon in every way !

He was also the first one to rebutt the notion that gays were a security risk. During an interview he said "That's a bit of an old chestnut". I really wonder what happened to him over the course of the last 8 years. He seemed to change.

Originally Posted by cologal

He was also the first one to rebutt the notion that gays were a security risk. During an interview he said "That's a bit of an old chestnut". I really wonder what happened to him over the course of the last 8 years. He seemed to change.

Perhaps he became aware of more things ??/

By the way, still waiting for that link on where you got that info on why we are not sending more troops to Afghanastan...you said it was because of Iraq...I asked for a link because that is really brand new to me !

Thanks