Originally Posted by The Villager II

Not at all. America hates palin because she is a stupid idiot and has nothing to do with Sharia Law.

The way liberals treated Palin and Bachmann, and even Hillary when she ran against Obama in the primary, is the Democrat War on Women personified.

It is slightly less evil than Sharia Law though.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The way liberals treated Palin and Bachmann, and even Hillary when she ran against Obama in the primary, is the Democrat War on Women personified.

It is slightly less evil than Sharia Law though.

Richie.....

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not sure you get Sharia law. It is kind of hard to give any good research on it because it is so badly misunderstood. This might help-- Islam: Governing Under Sharia - Council on Foreign Relations

This goes into the complexity of Sharia Law-- What sharia law actually means - Islam - Salon.com Read it, you might be surprised with what you find.

It's badly misunderstood??; a religion based system of laws that lowers women to chattel property to be ruled by the men in their family. Anytime men have complete power over women and women have few rights, those women WILL be abused, and women under Shariah Law are abused in every aspect of their lives. They do become conditioned to "behave" for their own survival.

I know all I need to know about Shariah Law.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

It's badly misunderstood??; a religion based system of laws that lowers women to chattel property to be ruled by the men in their family. Anytime men have complete power over women and women have few rights, those women WILL be abused, and women under Shariah Law are abused in every aspect of their lives. They do become conditioned to "behave" for their own survival.

I know all I need to know about Shariah Law.

Most religions treat women as less than equal, but Muslims are the worst with their Sharia Law.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

Most religions treat women as less than equal, but Muslims are the worst with their Sharia Law.

The point is that whatever Shariah "officially" proclaims itself to be, we all see with our own eyes the results of life under Shariah.

No thank you.

I think it's a question of 'how far'. Like anything, trying to describe 'Sharia' in one word isn't easy. Let's not forget how badly women were treated in the Bible - especially the Old testament. If someone wanted to implement "Torah Law" or "Biblical Law", I'd be just as much against it at first glance.

To me, one of the main differences is that, no matter how painful or how much it happened in fits and spurts, our society has advanced from strictly religious laws. The last witchcraft trials in this country were 500 years ago. The last ones elsewhere were last week in Africa.

While there may very well be things in Sharia that are innocuous (like aspects of contract law), take a look at the dark side because THAT is where the judgments are going to be. If you can legally stone someone to death for some perceived slight to your so-called 'honor' then your legal code needs work.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The point is that whatever Shariah "officially" proclaims itself to be, we all see with our own eyes the results of life under Shariah.

No thank you.

Originally Posted by djplong

I think it's a question of 'how far'. Like anything, trying to describe 'Sharia' in one word isn't easy. Let's not forget how badly women were treated in the Bible - especially the Old testament. If someone wanted to implement "Torah Law" or "Biblical Law", I'd be just as much against it at first glance.

To me, one of the main differences is that, no matter how painful or how much it happened in fits and spurts, our society has advanced from strictly religious laws. The last witchcraft trials in this country were 500 years ago. The last ones elsewhere were last week in Africa.

While there may very well be things in Sharia that are innocuous (like aspects of contract law), take a look at the dark side because THAT is where the judgments are going to be. If you can legally stone someone to death for some perceived slight to your so-called 'honor' then your legal code needs work.

I think the point I made is very clear, and I'm not arguing "Shariah Law" as an intellectual exercise, or comparing it to the study of antiquity as in some passages of the Bible that have been severely modified by modern teachers of the Christian religion hundreds of years ago.

We see the present day push of Shariah Law with our own eyes, and it's effects on the society and the women under it's auspices. The practical applications of something is infinitely more important to the discussion than the historical study of it.

There is almost nothing more dangerous in the world right now than the spread of Shariah Law as practiced by the fundamentalists overseeing it.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I think the point I made is very clear, and I'm not arguing "Shariah Law" as an intellectual exercise, or comparing it to the study of antiquity as in some passages of the Bible that have been severely modified by modern teachers of the Christian religion hundreds of years ago.

We see the present day push of Shariah Law with our own eyes, and it's effects on the society and the women under it's auspices. The practical applications of something is infinitely more important to the discussion than the historical study of it.

There is almost nothing more dangerous in the world right now than the spread of Shariah Law as practiced by the fundamentalists overseeing it.

Richie is right about Shariah law. It is dangerous and has spread too far. In the USA, there are some fundamentalist Muslims who have killed women under the auspices of Shariah law - but those Muslims have been punished by US criminal law.

It is not only Shariah law that is dangerous but any extremist religious rule or practice. There is some Caribbean or Haitian religion that has killed children in the name of their religion. These, too, have been punished under US criminal law.

Religious freedom does not trump criminal or even civil law.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Richie is right about Shariah law. It is dangerous and has spread too far. In the USA, there are some fundamentalist Muslims who have killed women under the auspices of Shariah law - but those Muslims have been punished by US criminal law.

It is not only Shariah law that is dangerous but any extremist religious rule or practice. There is some Caribbean or Haitian religion that has killed children in the name of their religion. These, too, have been punished under US criminal law.

Religious freedom does not trump criminal or even civil law.

Thank for for seeing my point, but we also cannot just be concerned with Sharia Law under the umbrella of our own civil protection, we must see the bigger word picture in relation to the spread of this ominous movement.

Afghanistan Shootings: Accused Soldier Flown To Kuwait, Panetta And Karzai Talk

On Sharia law, there was a very intense 2008 movie about the stoning of a woman falsely accused by her adulterous criminal husband of cheating on him. He was a political force in the tiny Iranian village where this took place. Religious law can be abused for any number of reasons. With the many checks and balances though in our civil system, I cannot really see this kind of thing happening in the US, unless someone with a very religious agenda comes to power in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stoning_of_Soraya_M.