Originally Posted by skyguy79

I trust you misread Richie's statement !

It wouldn't be the first time that my friend Buggy didn't know what he was talking about. Defend Obama first, ask questions later.

I'd be willing to wager much that he never looked at the link.

Originally Posted by janmcn

Republicans just hate good news. Virtually every economist on the planet said Friday's numbers were a very positive employment report from almost any angle. The unemployment rate has fallen five months in a row, the first time that has happened since 1994. Of course you probably didn't hear that on Fox News or in The Villages Daily Sun or from the republican leadership in the house.

Because of optimism about the economy, the jobs report triggered a spasm of buying on Wall Street.

We can only imagine how much lower the unemployment rate would be if the republican house would pass President Obama's jobs bill.

Really??????; VIRTUALLY every economist on the planet??????? Wow, where do you get your info? EVERY SINGLE ECONOMIST?????.......WOW!!

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Really??????; VIRTUALLY every economist on the planet??????? Wow, where do you get your info? EVERY SINGLE ECONOMIST?????.......WOW!!

And what factual source would you point to to refute the statement? Why can't you understand that good news can happen, even if it doesn't march to the tune of the candidates who cringe at the fear of good news!

Originally Posted by MrMark

And what factual source would you point to to refute the statement? By what authority do you believe it's OK to change "virtually" to "every single"? Why can't you understand that good news can happen, even if it doesn't march to the tune of those who cringe at the fear of it!

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Originally Posted by ceejay

Hunger the third rail in the entitlement debate. Few candidates Democrat, Republican or Indepndent would even question this conventional wisdom on this particular issue because that would make them look indifferent .............

The US government spends close to $1 trillion a year providing cash, food housing medical care and services to the poor or near poor. Of that amount $111 billion is spent on food in federal and state programs. yet despite spending stories of rampart hunger persist.. In a published report last September by the Heritage Foundation researchers Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield ....found that according to the Census Bureau data for 2009 (the most recent statistics available) of the almost 50 million Americans classified as poor 96% of the parents said their children were never hungry. Eighty -three percent of poor families reported having enough to eat and 82% of poor adults said they were never hungry at anytime during 2009 due to lack of food or money

The Myth of Starving Americans by Warren Kozak, author WSJ Monday 1/30/12

If this is true why are there so many soup kitchens and food pantrys in the local area? My village, including myself, gives to a misson that helps the Ocala forest people.

Just look outside the bubble......

Originally Posted by MrMark

Wow! If your life savings are being hammered as badly as you suggest try one of the following:

1) Fire your investment manager and hire one who knows what he's doing

2) If you are managing your own investments, stop immediately and hire someone who knows what he/she is doing.

Mtr. Mark: Actually my portofolio earned well this past year. However, it still hasn't return to its highest level since Obama took the reins and the Fed continues to manipulate the wrong monetary policy. We need a pro growth administration. Many retirees are running out of time. I am one of those individuals that wants to leave as much of my inheritance to my kids

So perhaps you view what the market can return is different than mine And, perhaps its in how we view beta risk

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Originally Posted by rubicon

Truthfully, Rubicon...I didn't take the "succombing to starvation" literally.

My thoughts are just about the actual number of unemployed in our country and how inaccurate the reporting is.

ceejay: I actually agree with what you said. I failed to make clear that my posting of these stats does dispel the myth of starving people on the one hand and the movement toward more of a welfare state on the other. You are correct in that we need to get people back to work and many of these folks want to return to caring for themselves.

These stats also speak volumes about how being poor in America is so different to many other nations where people are literally starving to death.

Above all we need a pro-growth pro energy Administration and Congress

Personal Best Regards

Once again the 99%/1% phenomenon is present. Fully 99% of Americans are unemployed and only 1% are. How's that Repubs? Now you can say even Obama's jobs bill won't help. We are doomed. Who's going to take America back? And who the hell took it in the first place?

Originally Posted by rubicon

Mtr. Mark: Actually my portofolio earned well this past year. However, it still hasn't return to its highest level since Obama took the reins and the Fed continues to manipulate the wrong monetary policy. We need a pro growth administration. Many retirees are running out of time. I am one of those individuals that wants to leave as much of my inheritance to my kids

So perhaps you view what the market can return is different than mine And, perhaps its in how we view beta risk

Might want to check your facts. Portfolios, yours mine and everyone else went to hell in 2008. Believe Obama took the oath of office on 1/20/2009. Not real sure, but wouldn't that have made GWB the president of record when your portfolio went to hell in a hand basket?

Originally Posted by MrMark

And what factual source would you point to to refute the statement? Why can't you understand that good news can happen, even if it doesn't march to the tune of the candidates who cringe at the fear of good news!

I don't need factual sources to tell me that "virtually every economist" hasn't thought Obama's actions resulted in great employment recovery to refute Jan's post. I only need to be able to reason and understand the language.

I wish both parties would stop spending 40% more than we bring in. Then we would really see what a mess this country is in.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Once again the 99%/1% phenomenon is present. Fully 99% of Americans are unemployed and only 1% are. How's that Repubs? Now you can say even Obama's jobs bill won't help. We are doomed. Who's going to take America back? And who the hell took it in the first place?

I wonder if The Buggy One will come back and accuse you of making up statistics because you don't believe the actual numbers.

Originally Posted by ceejay

I wonder if The Buggy One will come back and accuse you of making up statistics because you don't believe the actual numbers.

Ya know if I looked as hard as the right-wingers did I could probably find a link that would support what I posted. And some of them would believe it.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Ya know if I looked as hard as the right-wingers did I could probably find a link that would support what I posted. And some of them would believe it.

Ummm...this link was posted by djplong. I think he would be very insulted if you were to call him a "right-winger".

"U6" is the statistic that includes long-term unemployed.

If you want to see a chart of how U6 has been going:

Portal Seven | U6 Unemployment Rate

Do you even READ the previous posts before you make one of your inane comments? Just wonderin'....

Originally Posted by ceejay

Ummm...this link was posted by djplong. I think he would be very insulted if you were to call him a "right-winger".



Do you even READ the previous posts before you make one of your inane comments? Just wonderin'....

Dale, like lots of libs, deal in feelings and not facts. It's the "nice thoughts" and "good intentions" that count and not the ramifications of what's imposed.

Supporting views with documentation and reported results and an eye toward history would just clutter the mind and stifle the creativity.