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Guest 06-04-2012 12:39 PM

Yea right. The voter fraud is low, please stop, I can't quit laughing at such an uninformed comment. Why do you think there is such a big push by the democrats to get drivers license for the illegal immigrants.

With 1,000,000 illegal immigrants estimated to be in Florida, with most if not all with jobs, and if only 1% of those manage to vote, that is 10,000 FRAUD VOTES!

Anybody who is happy with that, is for VOTER FRAUD, and I am going to tell Jimmy Carter that he needs to come back to this country.

Guest 06-04-2012 01:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501331)
Yea right. The voter fraud is low, please stop, I can't quit laughing at such an uninformed comment. Why do you think there is such a big push by the democrats to get drivers license for the illegal immigrants.

With 1,000,000 illegal immigrants estimated to be in Florida, with most if not all with jobs, and if only 1% of those manage to vote, that is 10,000 FRAUD VOTES!

Anybody who is happy with that, is for VOTER FRAUD, and I am going to tell Jimmy Carter that he needs to come back to this country.

Please post a link for your allegations. Why isn't our esteemed Gov Rick Scott doing anything about those one million illegal immigrants like Gov Jan Brewer did in Arizona? And why is this rampant voter fraud not being prosecuted? I thought we were a country of laws.

Guest 06-04-2012 01:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501157)
PLEASE post a link to all the voter fraud cases that have been prosecuted in Florida since 2008; a newspaper article, a court case, a police blotter, anything. Or just tell me what county this fraud occured in, and I'll call the Supervisor of Elections in that county myself. Until you can substantiate all the voter and registration fraud that you allege, you make yourself look ridiculous.

BTW: I have read a daily newspaper in Florida for the past 12 years and have never seen a mention of a case being prosecuted. Where's your proof?

janmcn - don't get your knickers in such a knot! i was NOT implying that there is or ever was a case of voter fraud! i simply asked a direct question as to whether the poster believed that even one fraudulent vote would be acceptable to them! chill out!

Guest 06-04-2012 01:24 PM

This is not an accusation, but an extrapolation of facts for consideration.

"With 1,000,000 illegal immigrants estimated to be in Florida, with most if not all with jobs, and if only 1% of those manage to vote, that is 10,000 FRAUD VOTES!" (posted by BlueHeronFan)

"since (1) these 180,000 individuals registered to vote are NOT CITIZENS from what Florida election officials can tell, and that (2) by having the same level of confirmation of these person’s likely non-citizenship as the federal government, the state can ensure that not American citizens are unjustly removed from the rolls.

Given the Obama administration’s lack of cooperation, Florida has moved forward to check citizenship status of these 180,000 individual, notifying them first by mail with 30 days to respond, then publishing the names of these persons in the paper (in an attempt to gain their attention) if they fail to do so. After the newspaper publication of the list, those persons identified will have 30 more days to respond, at which point they will be removed from the voter rolls if they still fail to confirm their eligibility to vote."


You would think that the government would want to help in this cause.

"Florida’s Motor Voter Act of 1993 (which most states have some form of!) PROHIBITED even asking immigration status when an individual filled out their voter registration form while FAILING to require proof of citizenship!"

"One Naples voter admitted to NBC Tampa reporter Andy Pierrotti that she was not a U.S. Citizen NOR A LEGAL IMMIGRANT – election records show she voted six times in the past eleven years!"

» Mass Illegal Immigration Voter Fraud in Florida… and the Feds Don’t Care. Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Guest 06-04-2012 01:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501315)
because the complaint level is low, just means it is an accepted distortion. No different from the millions who are getting food stamps and other freebies that are not qualified.

Do not mess with the status quo even if it is wrong or illegal....because it preserves votes.

So why is it not OK to fix what is wrong or illegal?

btk

btk - one of these days the voter reg status quo seekers are gonna get you an answer to your question! ;)

Guest 06-04-2012 01:41 PM

This an old study but finds very little voter fraud nationally.
 
STUDY: Feds Prosecuted Only 38 Cases Of Voter Fraud Between 2002-05, 14 Were Thrown Out | ThinkProgress

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/pol...terf034087.php

Guest 06-04-2012 01:49 PM

Just a few questions...

First, does the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT who admitted voting 7 times count as 1 or 7 ? Oh, sorry, she did vote illegally but it doesnt count because it is so easy to do but hard to catch, she would not be part of any statistics. SO, what can we do to stop that little trend...maybe proving you are a citizen ? Of having a photo id ?

Second question. Obviously for folks like you there is some sort of magic number for fraud. Can you share how many registered cases or oral admittances is your standard ? ONE is sufficient for me but curious what you folks have set as a standard. There is a way to not have this conversations....lets have a photo id ? Lets list all those illegals on the voting record and use the Feds roll because it would be against Fed laws....oh, wait a minute...the Feds do not want to give us that llist...hmmmmmm....what to do. I suppose they care as much as we do !

Guest 06-04-2012 02:35 PM

Gov Rick Scott is the one that is thumbing his nose at The Voter's Rights Act of 1965 and The Voter Registration Act of 1993 and will probably be served with an injunction pretty quickly. All 67 County Election Officials refuse to break the laws, but Scott insists he is above the law. Hopefully, he will be perp-walked off to federal prison soon.

I hope Florida doesn't need any federal aid anytime soon, like say for a major hurricane. If so, the president should just thumb his nose at Scott.

For those who need a history lesson, people died trying to get these laws enacted. Republicans know they are on the wrong side of demographics and all they can do is try to create mass hysteria. In my 12 years in Florida, voters registration has never been a problem. Jeb Bush purged the rolls before I arrived in 2000.

BTW: I prefer to wear my knickers tied in a knot.

Guest 06-04-2012 02:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501384)
[snip]
BTW: I prefer to wear my knickers tied in a knot.

jan - it's not good for your health!...like white sugar, brown sugar, white bread, butter and ice cream aren't good for you! [see other totv thread]. ;)

Guest 06-04-2012 02:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501384)
Gov Rick Scott is the one that is thumbing his nose at The Voter's Rights Act of 1965 and The Voter Registration Act of 1993 and will probably be served with an injunction pretty quickly. All 67 County Election Officials refuse to break the laws, but Scott insists he is above the law. Hopefully, he will be perp-walked off to federal prison soon.

I hope Florida doesn't need any federal aid anytime soon, like say for a major hurricane. If so, the president should just thumb his nose at Scott.

For those who need a history lesson, people died trying to get these laws enacted. Republicans know they are on the wrong side of demographics and all they can do is try to create mass hysteria. In my 12 years in Florida, voters registration has never been a problem. Jeb Bush purged the rolls before I arrived in 2000.

BTW: I prefer to wear my knickers tied in a knot.

By the way, WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ? (of vote frauds that would justify any purging of any kind)

Now.....

"Responding to complaints, Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner wrote to Janet Napolitano and the Dept of Homeland Security. In his letter, he urgently asked the intelligence agency to open up its database of illegal aliens and assist the state in using only the most accurate information in their effort to purge the rolls of ineligible voters. That independent review would appear to satisfy both sides’ demands.

In response however, federal officials only confirmed receipt of Detzner’s request for assistance but could not commit to any involvement. Citing legal and logistical concerns, DHS spokesmen have hinted that sharing the information with the state is highly unlikely. Florida state officials have said they will make an official statement later this week in response to the Justice Dept’s demand that they halt their effort to purge the state’s voter rolls."



"The Florida voter debacle can be traced back to an overreaching campaign by the Democratic Party to exploit the equal distribution of voters in the state and register as many new Democratic voters as possible. In most states, it would take a massive and expensive effort to register the tens or hundreds of thousands of new voters it would take to swing a state from red to blue, or vice versa. But in Florida, only a few hundred new voters could change the party affiliation of the delegate-rich state."


Florida voter purge creates confrontation with Feds - National Independent | Examiner.com

Now the only even possible violation of any law is the time frame NOT THE ACT OF PURGING. There is a primary on Aug 14 and that is the problem but the state was waiting for the federal government to supply a list to do it properly and now finds itself in this situation. You neglected to add that fact.

GREAT country...we actually are arguing over protecting our right to vote....and in disagreement over we should even look at if ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are voting. What a shame !

Guest 06-04-2012 03:00 PM

Wow who would have ever guessed that the same uber liberals who argued against photo voter ID cards would object to anyone purging the list of eligible voters.. Wonder why they prefer the status quo? Hmmmmmmm

Guest 06-04-2012 03:43 PM

Right-wing Republicans are determined to destroy this great country of ours. :(

Guest 06-04-2012 05:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501410)
Right-wing Republicans are determined to destroy this great country of ours. :(

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Guest 06-04-2012 05:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501384)
Gov Rick Scott is the one that is thumbing his nose at The Voter's Rights Act of 1965 and The Voter Registration Act of 1993 and will probably be served with an injunction pretty quickly. All 67 County Election Officials refuse to break the laws, but Scott insists he is above the law. Hopefully, he will be perp-walked off to federal prison soon.

I hope Florida doesn't need any federal aid anytime soon, like say for a major hurricane. If so, the president should just thumb his nose at Scott.

For those who need a history lesson, people died trying to get these laws enacted. Republicans know they are on the wrong side of demographics and all they can do is try to create mass hysteria. In my 12 years in Florida, voters registration has never been a problem. Jeb Bush purged the rolls before I arrived in 2000.

BTW: I prefer to wear my knickers tied in a knot.


Well, Rick Scott is just one more example of TeaParty-backed racism.

Guest 06-04-2012 06:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501410)
Right-wing Republicans are determined to destroy this great country of ours. :(

i think the destruction would be much less than what might be done by the policies of the left-wing democrats...look at greece and what out-of-control spending can do for/to a nation!


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