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Guest 06-04-2012 06:45 PM

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For those who need a history lesson, people died trying to get these laws enacted.
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no lesson needed here! but i do have to wonder if you think they died so that the laws which protect people's rights would be used to protect people who have no right to them and their protection.

Guest 06-04-2012 06:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501505)
no lesson needed here! but i do have to wonder if you think they died so that the laws which protect people's rights would be used to protect people who have no right to them and their protection.


What I do not understand, and perhaps those with all the rhetoric can respond because I might have missed it.

WHY are the Democrats, or anyone opposed to the method, not trying to join forces with the purge to protect any "errors" they think may have happened ?

Seems in all the states that in the last few months have passed an id law for voting, that the thrust from opposition was to stop it totally....the issue of illegal voters was not the issue at all. Why are they not making an issue of not being available to insure it is done fairly and insures that there are no illegal voters anywhere.

Guest 06-04-2012 07:17 PM

to those that do not think voter fraud happens,today i got my new Ill.voters id in the mail.I guess I can vote here and in Ill.States do not notify your old state that you have registered elsewhere.They should purge all voters and have a national voters id.

Guest 06-04-2012 07:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501505)
no lesson needed here! but i do have to wonder if you think they died so that the laws which protect people's rights would be used to protect people who have no right to them and their protection.

Still waiting for all that substantiated evidence to be posted. Until then, I can only assume you are blowing smoke.

Guest 06-04-2012 07:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501534)
Still waiting for all that substantiated evidence to be posted. Until then, I can only assume you are blowing smoke.

Being from Chicago I know every election they find dead people voting or registering.News papers always find some.Been going on my whole adult life.If you don't believe it happens think you need to get your head out of the sand

Guest 06-04-2012 09:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501534)
Still waiting for all that substantiated evidence to be posted. Until then, I can only assume you are blowing smoke.

well, don't wait too long cause it ain't gonna happen. i am SIMPLY asking a question and have NO desire to blow ANY smoke ANYWHERE around YOU - ASSUME whatever you want! my previous ? that was directed to aassande and into which you jumped asking for a link to voter fraud cases prosecuted in fl does not REQUIRE a response to you since the ? was NOT directed to you!

the post that was directed to YOU is:
but i do have to wonder if you think they died so that the laws which protect people's rights would be used to protect people who have no right to them and their protection.

that ? has absolutely no connection to voter fraud and needs ONLY a yes or no answer. am not looking for nor hoping for an essay. thanx

Guest 06-04-2012 09:09 PM

The facts are these. It's only Democrats who want to stop voter authentication.

Why do they want voters not to have to identify they are who they say they are?

You don't have to be clairvoyant to figure it out.

Guest 06-05-2012 07:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501587)
well, don't wait too long cause it ain't gonna happen. i am SIMPLY asking a question and have NO desire to blow ANY smoke ANYWHERE around YOU - ASSUME whatever you want! my previous ? that was directed to aassande and into which you jumped asking for a link to voter fraud cases prosecuted in fl does not REQUIRE a response to you since the ? was NOT directed to you!

the post that was directed to YOU is:
but i do have to wonder if you think they died so that the laws which protect people's rights would be used to protect people who have no right to them and their protection.

that ? has absolutely no connection to voter fraud and needs ONLY a yes or no answer. am not looking for nor hoping for an essay. thanx

No.

Guest 06-05-2012 07:48 AM

It's not about voter fraud,it's about voter suppresion.I have not seen one case of voter fraud proven. It seems to me that the number of fraud cases proven will be counted on one hand but the number of legitimate voters who are prevented from voting can run into the millions.

Guest 06-05-2012 08:32 AM

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It's not about voter fraud,it's about voter suppresion.I have not seen one case of voter fraud proven. It seems to me that the number of fraud cases proven will be counted on one hand but the number of legitimate voters who are prevented from voting can run into the millions.

waynet - do you believe that voter registrations should be reviewed and purged of dead, moved or other ineligible voters as defined by law on some regular basis in order to insure their integrity?

Guest 06-05-2012 09:23 AM

I am continually amused how not fixing what is wrong or fix what is broken seems to be an acceptable position for some.

Some want proof of voter fraud to challenge whether it happens or not. How many proofs have they seen for tax evasion? Tax fraud? None but it is an accepted fact that it does happen.

How many have seen proof of fraud in Medicare? None but it is known to be rampant and out of control.

The problem is some people being constrained by thinking everything has to be a partisan blessed notion/idea/issue/thought. That just is not the way the real world acts and behaves.

It is actually rather sad to see that some folks our age....old enough and should be wise enough to know right from wrong...yet so deep in partisan thinking and rhetoric and as a result CANNOT and DO NOT support right vs wrong. Very, very sad.

All the arm waving about show me a link, show me proof or the lame idea that there aren't that many of whatever is just flak. The logic would suggest they would give the same answers if asked if they support ticketing speeders in TV.

I like to think some of these folks just have to make a visible partisan stand just because they either think the have to or they have to....however when all gets said and done I would bet some may not be so consistent in the voting booth in November.

The right thing to do is always err on the side of doing what is right.
To have dead people on the voting roles is not right.
To have illegal immigrants on the voting roles is not right.
To be allowed to vote in more than one location is not right.

Some must not comprehend how foolish they come across when they will not subscribe to a simple right or wrong decision. Permissive pacifism has taken on a new magnitude.

btk

PS I think the life of this thread is about worn out...nothing but spinning tires in the same old ruts.

Guest 06-05-2012 09:56 AM

It is not a purge.Flagging and having them come in with Id.A Ft Meyers News paper found 50,000 dead people still on rolls.Say it again time for national voters Id.

Guest 06-05-2012 11:15 AM

billy,quite a post. Almost none of it true and most hearsay. We have a constitutional right to vote thats the difference. To compare that to medicare fraud and tax evasion is wrong.

Guest 06-05-2012 11:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501728)
It is not a purge.Flagging and having them come in with Id.A Ft Meyers News paper found 50,000 dead people still on rolls.Say it again time for national voters Id.


Thank you for informing me that Florida has found more than 50,000 dead people on voting rolls. I always wondered how George W. Bush got in and now I know the truth.:swear:

Guest 06-05-2012 12:35 PM

ahhhhhh Waynet you missed the point totally and completely.

The point was and still is that fraud exists in each of the examples.....nothing more than that.

It exists in each of the examples just like it exists in the voter polls.

Yes us legal, still alive, citizens of the USA do have a constitutional priviledge to vote.

The illegal, dead and non citizens do not......this is the subject by the way.

And contrary to your incorrect assessment all the examples are true. Fraud is acknowledged to exist in every single one of them ....including the voter polls.

However, you like many others are entitled to your opinion on the matter.

My preference and I suspect most people will always be on the side of fixing what is wrong or broken.

btk


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