cologal~ Maybe this really is hateful after all...I'd have to conclude that the NAACP is hateful in preventing African Americans their constitution freedoms to life, liberty and the pursute of happiness.

NAACP plantation masters play race card again
NAACP fights efforts to address the core problems that perpetuate the cycle of poverty in black America.

"Rick Santorum must be racist because he thinks all people, regardless of ethnicity, should have the dignity of self-sufficiency.

At least that's how the NAACP sees it.

Talking about pushing back against those in government endlessly trying to expand welfare programs because they make money off them, Santorum said, "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money." " by Star Parker/Urban Cure

cologal~ Maybe this really is hateful after all...I'd have to conclude that the NAACP is hateful in preventing African Americans their constitution freedoms to life, liberty and the pursute of happiness.

NAACP plantation masters play race card again
NAACP fights efforts to address the core problems that perpetuate the cycle of poverty in black America.

"Rick Santorum must be racist because he thinks all people, regardless of ethnicity, should have the dignity of self-sufficiency.

At least that's how the NAACP sees it.

Talking about pushing back against those in government endlessly trying to expand welfare programs because they make money off them, Santorum said, "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money." " by Star Parker/Urban Cure
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And the post before this one.


I have been reading your post closely lately and...........



Go get'em

Originally Posted by notlongnow

And the post before this one.


I have been reading your post closely lately and...........



Go get'em

Wish I could take credit for the content. I have been having trouble posting links lately, so copied and pasted Star Parker's articles from cure.org. I have been reading her works very closely lately, incredible stuff!!!

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Did you read the articles or just the headlines? Can't always judge the book by it's cover. To whom did you direct your question? Here's the article in it's entirety...maybe it can answer your question?

~"Last year, a one-year cut in the payroll taxes that working Americans pay to finance Social Security was enacted in the name of so-called economic "stimulus."

But, like the rest of the economic stimuli that have come from Washington over the last three years, the only thing that has been stimulated is the growing hole of national debt into which we sink deeper and deeper.

Now, unsurprisingly, our president and his Democratic colleagues want to continue, and possibly expand, this payroll tax holiday despite its obvious failure.

Wait a second: Failure is a matter of definition.

If the point was to help get our economy back on the road to growth and prosperity, the payroll tax holiday has been a failure. But if the point of the payroll tax holiday was not to reduce government interference in our lives but to keep it, grow it, and strengthen the decided movement of the last three years to turn our nation into a welfare-state plantation, it's a great idea.

That is really what is going on here and why President Barack Obama and his Democratic colleagues on Capitol Hill love the idea.

Unlike our income taxes that government takes for general revenue and unspecified spending, the payroll tax is earmarked and specified. It pays for Social Security.

A cut in income taxes, even if not accompanied with an equivalent cut in government spending, puts the pressure for such cuts in place and carries with it the prospect of reduction of government interference in our lives.

But there is no such possibility with the payroll tax. When the tax was reduced "temporarily" last year from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent, were working Americans asked to agree to an equivalent cut in their Social Security benefits that that payroll tax pays for?

Of course not.

What politician in his or her right mind would suggest to working Americans that they intend to cut Social Security benefits?

But cutting the payroll tax is a dream idea for anyone whose project is turning our nation into a welfare state.

This is because, unlike the income tax, which almost half Americans don't pay, practically every working man and woman pays the payroll tax.

And, what the payroll tax pays for, Social Security, is impossible to cut.

So, if the payroll tax is cut, you have to find another way to pay for those Social Security retirement benefits.

So how about rich people?

Democrats would like for super high-income earners, the top 1 percent, who already pay 40 percent of America's income taxes, to also start paying for everyone's Social Security benefits.

Why not also force high-income earners to put their addresses up on the internet and we can all send them our grocery bills, our car payments, and our kid's tuition bills? Let's get the rich to pay for all our bills, including our retirement.

Unfortunately, some Republicans are allowing themselves to be suckered into this political blackmail.

Cutting payroll taxes earmarked for a Social Security system that is already bankrupt is no way to run a country and no way for people that are allegedly free and responsible citizens to live.

And using a payroll tax holiday as a back door plan to turn Social Security into a middle class welfare program does not bode well for our nation's future.

If the point is to fix Social Security, let working Americans keep their payroll tax and use it to fund their own private retirement account -- an idea that 3 of 4 Americans under 50 favor.

If the point is to restore our economy, let's cut the trillion dollars in new spending we've larded into the government over the last three years and start focusing on rewarding rather than punishing individual freedom and success.

Katz...this explanation has nothing to do with its being a Welfare Scam...this has nothing to do with welfare.

I am over 50 and I have experience with taking a lump sum and putting into a retirement account. That was 23 years ago and if I had to retire on that I would be working tell I died.

We seem to be on opposite sides of this issue but thanks for responding.

Originally Posted by notlongnow

And the post before this one.


I have been reading your post closely lately and...........



Go get'em

All I know is as a computer person we used to discribe things in terms of Master and Slave...we had to stop that.

The payroll tax cut has nothing to do with welfare.

Master and Slave? Are you going to tell me that an African American woman who freed herself of drug addiction, welfare dependence, and being a frequent flier at the abortion clinic THEN put herself through college while singlehandedly raising her children, has NO RIGHT to use the terms Master and Slave?!?!? HA! She and her writings have gained my deepest and utmost RESPECT! Rant all you like, but you are missing out on a beautiful woman's story of SURVIVAL and VICTORY! AND totally missed her POWERFUL message of DIGNITY and FREEDOM!

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Master and Slave? Are you going to tell me that an African American woman who freed herself of drug addiction, welfare dependence, and being a frequent flier at the abortion clinic THEN put herself through college while singlehandedly raising her children, has NO RIGHT to use the terms Master and Slave?!?!? HA! She and her writings have gained my deepest and utmost RESPECT! Rant all you like, but you are missing out on a beautiful woman's story of SURVIVAL and VICTORY! AND totally missed her POWERFUL message of DIGNITY and FREEDOM!

Katz....

I don't use hate speech and I don't accept hate speech from anyone.

I have told you in a earlier post I respect you beliefs.... I would expect the same from you.

I don't use hate speech and I don't accept hate speech from anyone

Just so I don't step on your toes in future posts, would you point out where KatzPajamas used "Hate Speech" in the post.

I have read it over several times and I don't see it???

Originally Posted by notlongnow

Just so I don't step on your toes in future posts, would you point out where KatzPajamas used "Hate Speech" in the post.

I have read it over several times and I don't see it???

Katz directed me to Cure with a link a few posts back...I looked at the site I saw the hate speech and referenced it in a post. She asked me if I read the articles which I did not because of the hate speech. I had asked how the payroll tax cut was a welfare scam so she responded with a long message ... you commented on the post. I made a comment about the what we call client/server now.

That prompted Katz long post which included this:

Master and Slave? Are you going to tell me that an African American woman who freed herself of drug addiction, welfare dependence, and being a frequent flier at the abortion clinic THEN put herself through college while singlehandedly raising her children, has NO RIGHT to use the terms Master and Slave?!?!?

We no longer use that phrase because it was deemed hate speech by the industry.

There you have it.

I think you might be a little sensitive on this. I don't think she was using the phrase as hate speech. I think it was the women in the article and she was pointing that out trying to get her point accross to you.

It is amazing how so many people are sitting on the "RED BUTTON" just ready for someone to hurt there sensibilities! Everything offends them as if it is some kind of right to not hear something that hurts their feelings.
I think you have called this one wrong. It appears that the "Race Card" always seems to be on the top of the deck.

The problem is that changing the words to say the same thing seems disingenuous, at best. Somehow by saying the same thing with different words makes it "sound" better, but it means the same thing!
Typical liberal fix to something.

How does any of this have anything to do with "Rejecting of Keystone Pipeline; Act of National Insanity"?

It does't, I am sorry. I will try to do better. You know how a conversation just sorta takes on it's own life and just grows.

Originally Posted by cologal

Did you forget that Bush cut the funding for LIHEAP 5 years in a row? He sure cared about the poor. Perhaps you did.
What has the conservative movement done for the poor of the country...Provide some links.......

My post with link to CURE was in response to this request...a conservative movement doing somethings for the poor of the country.

Cologal asked another question-
Katz... I asked for links about the conseratives helping the poor.

That is just another Repub hate site as far as I could see.

Attacks on the NAACP, Planned Parenthood...the payroll tax cut is a welfare scam. I work, I'm not on welfare, I paid a higher tax rate than Rommey. What makes the payroll tax cut a welfare scam. Do people on welfare pay payroll taxes? I don't think so.

Enlighten me...why is cutting the payroll taxes a welfare scam?
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I then responded by posting the actual articles, but apparently cologal either did not read the link she had asked for and chose to make a snap judgement by a few interesting titles OR she did read them and since she didn’t agree or understand, she chose to label them HATE…Sorry notlongnow, just more liberal manipulations to twist reality to a palce where they can point fingers at anyone but themselves...

Originally Posted by notlongnow

I think you might be a little sensitive on this. I don't think she was using the phrase as hate speech. I think it was the women in the article and she was pointing that out trying to get her point accross to you.

It is amazing how so many people are sitting on the "RED BUTTON" just ready for someone to hurt there sensibilities! Everything offends them as if it is some kind of right to not hear something that hurts their feelings.
I think you have called this one wrong. It appears that the "Race Card" always seems to be on the top of the deck.

The problem is that changing the words to say the same thing seems disingenuous, at best. Somehow by saying the same thing with different words makes it "sound" better, but it means the same thing!
Typical liberal fix to something.

I avoid hate speech because it is hateful. It makes no matter to me if the speaker is red, white , yellow or black. I won't listen to music that include any words that disrespect women with the B word.

If that is liberal I will accept that as a good thing.... but I have lived for 25 years with Buddhist meditation teacher....Right speech is part of the Eight Fold Noble Path.

It wasn't hate speech.