Originally Posted by RichieLion

This isn't a luxury tax, G. This is a consumption tax on almost everything in conjunction with you having more money in your pocket because of a 9% income tax....

Richie, how are you going to explain how great that 9% income tax is to the 45-50% of Americans who don't make enough to pay any income tax now under the current tax tables?

In that that group is pretty important in spending on "stuff" to keep the economy going, explain please how half the population having less to spend after paying the new 9% tax is good economic policy?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Richie, how are you going to explain how great that 9% income tax is to the 45-50% of Americans who don't make enough to pay any income tax now under the current tax tables?

In that that group is pretty important in spending on "stuff" to keep the economy going, explain please how half the population having less to spend after paying the new 9% tax is good economic policy?

Oh, you mean the people walking around with $200 dollar phones and cars and watching TV on 50 inch screens? The ones too poor to pay a sales tax? I am tired of the lazy spoiled people in our society that will not sacrifice before the luxuries. They are the entitled ones, not the ones who have contributed for 50 years while doing without.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Richie, how are you going to explain how great that 9% income tax is to the 45-50% of Americans who don't make enough to pay any income tax now under the current tax tables?

In that that group is pretty important in spending on "stuff" to keep the economy going, explain please how half the population having less to spend after paying the new 9% tax is good economic policy?

I don't have all the answers. It just sounds better than we have now.

Nathan Lewis wrote an interesting piece in Forbes where he compares the "Flat Tax", the "Fair Tax" and Cains 9-9-9 plan. It's an interesting read. I especially was intrigued by Hong Kong's Tax Plan (even though the author doesn't think it would raise the required revenue for all our rampant spending)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanle...ns-9-9-9-plan/

I have been reading threads here for years and I am convinced that the people who voted for Obama (Mr. Zero) will vote for him again. You cannot control stupidity.

We all know there is some abuse of welfare funding and we have all heard of the welfare families driving fancy cars and having the high def televisions and iPhones. There are also a lot of very deserving people who have come on hard times that need some form of welfare in order to survive. Recently, a study showed one in four American children went to bed hungry - and that does not mean they had 3 meals that day and were still hungry.

I urge each of you to volunteer a couple of days a month at some project in order to see the people who need our assistance.

Originally Posted by buggyone

VillageGolfer, according to your profile, you have only been a member since July of 2011. That is not years.

Well, taken with a grain of salt since it was hyperbole, I'm sure.

You do not need to be a member to read posts. You have been a member since August, but you sound like you have been here many years. I think you are TBUGS. What say you? ( you are the one who brought the subject up)

Originally Posted by buggyone

We all know there is some abuse of welfare funding and we have all heard of the welfare families driving fancy cars and having the high def televisions and iPhones. There are also a lot of very deserving people who have come on hard times that need some form of welfare in order to survive. Recently, a study showed one in four American children went to bed hungry - and that does not mean they had 3 meals that day and were still hungry. I urge each of you to volunteer a couple of days a month at some project in order to see the people who need our assistance.

AND it doesn't mean that their parents aren't driving fancy cars, watching high def TVs and using iPhones either...

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

You do not need to be a member to read posts. You have been a member since August, but you sound like you have been here many years. I think you are TBUGS. What say you? ( you are the one who brought the subject up)

It a new playing field here VG. Buggy's been a follower of the forum protocols, and that's all that matters really.

I never really looked before, but you've racked up an amazing number of posts in your short time after registering. Quite impressive.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I have been reading threads here for years and I am convinced that the people who voted for Obama (Mr. Zero) will vote for him again. You cannot control stupidity.

He's got my vote!

Richie, thanks for the kind words. You know I appreciate them.

As for me being on the forum for many years, not so. I only moved to The Villages in October, 2009, and did not know anything about TOTV until sometime in early 2011. Wow, VillageGolfer, you really jump on a posting fast. I edited that one within 2 minutes of writing it and changed it to the topic of welfare.

Katz, would you let your children go to bed hungry when you had a fancy car, an iPhone, and a high def TV? Parents sacrifice for their kids for the most part. Sure, there are some terrible parents but it is not the norm.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Katz, would you let your children go to bed hungry when you had a fancy car, an iPhone, and a high def TV? Parents sacrifice for their kids for the most part. Sure, there are some terrible parents but it is not the norm.

Would I? No. Dad was a lineman for the Toledo Edison, but he did a 6 month stint as the guy who shuts off the juice if the bill hasn't been paid. He chose to go back up the poles instead of going to homes of the these types of people to shut off the power. He told Mom that there would usually be a large TV, a expensive new car in the drive, and barefoot children sitting on bare floors in January. He would then go back to the office and tell the boss that he couldn't disconnect the power because nobody was home.
Dad was the most honest guy I have ever known!

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Yea, but they are going to decrease. You have lost a compatriot. I have decided to decrease my contributions, which should make TBugs happy. So long. I now believe that you are a bully.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Yea, but they are going to decrease. You have lost a compatriot. I have decided to decrease my contributions, which should make TBugs happy. So long. I now believe that you are a bully.

What's this all about? You are joking, I'm hoping. After Buggy spoke of your join date I checked and that's when I realized how much you contributed to the forum. It wasn't meant as a "shot" by any means, but just a surprise. I was sincere when I used the word "impressive".

Don't you get sensitive on me now.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

What's this all about? You are joking, I'm hoping. After Buggy spoke of your join date I checked and that's when I realized how much you contributed to the forum. It wasn't meant as a "shot" by any means, but just a surprise. I was sincere when I used the word "impressive".

Don't you get sensitive on me now.

I was only kidding with you Richie. I do not consider you a bully. On the contrary, my sarcasm does not come off too good sometimes.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I was only kidding with you Richie. I do not consider you a bully. On the contrary, my sarcasm does not come off too good sometimes.

OK, that's what I thought. I'm relieved. I guess I was getting a little punch drunk. Well, I'm jumping back in.