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Old 07-01-2016, 05:58 PM
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I'm not a veteran nor do I know much about military strategy but I am an expert at paying federal income taxes and had 44 years of experience doing so before I retired. I'm very curious how much we have paid for each bad guy or Isis fighter we have killed in the last 14 years. My guess is it is well over $20,000.00 a piece. Isis does not own a battleship of any kind, no fighter jets (not even a Piper Cub), no tanks, no Pentagon, no airbases, etc. Two weeks ago a lone radical Muslim killed 49 Americams and wounded as many. I have no idea what the cost to tax payers will be for all the police response that was required to stop him or the medical cost for all the wounded. He spent at most $1500.00 for his firearms and 250.00 for ammo. We have lost thousands of our own soldiers and have added thousands to those disabled for life. We have thousands with PTSD with no ides what the cost will be. On top of that we have paid for none of it, just passed it off to our grandchildren. Can someone tell me what I am missing.
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I'm not a veteran nor do I know much about military strategy but I am an expert at paying federal income taxes and had 44 years of experience doing so before I retired. I'm very curious how much we have paid for each bad guy or Isis fighter we have killed in the last 14 years. My guess is it is well over $20,000.00 a piece. Isis does not own a battleship of any kind, no fighter jets (not even a Piper Cub), no tanks, no Pentagon, no airbases, etc. Two weeks ago a lone radical Muslim killed 49 Americams and wounded as many. I have no idea what the cost to tax payers will be for all the police response that was required to stop him or the medical cost for all the wounded. He spent at most $1500.00 for his firearms and 250.00 for ammo. We have lost thousands of our own soldiers and have added thousands to those disabled for life. We have thousands with PTSD with no ides what the cost will be. On top of that we have paid for none of it, just passed it off to our grandchildren. Can someone tell me what I am missing.
Big government doesn't do anything in an efficient cost effective manner, so your figures are most likely way to low!
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Old 07-02-2016, 05:40 AM
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I'm not a veteran nor do I know much about military strategy but I am an expert at paying federal income taxes and had 44 years of experience doing so before I retired. I'm very curious how much we have paid for each bad guy or Isis fighter we have killed in the last 14 years. My guess is it is well over $20,000.00 a piece. Isis does not own a battleship of any kind, no fighter jets (not even a Piper Cub), no tanks, no Pentagon, no airbases, etc. Two weeks ago a lone radical Muslim killed 49 Americams and wounded as many. I have no idea what the cost to tax payers will be for all the police response that was required to stop him or the medical cost for all the wounded. He spent at most $1500.00 for his firearms and 250.00 for ammo. We have lost thousands of our own soldiers and have added thousands to those disabled for life. We have thousands with PTSD with no ides what the cost will be. On top of that we have paid for none of it, just passed it off to our grandchildren. Can someone tell me what I am missing.
A substantive question, perhaps?

What do you want? Is there a question there, other than "what's wrong with me?" that you seem to be asking? I doubt anyone can answer that part. If you are suggesting that war and law enforcement are too expensive so we should just ignore terrorism, then you do have a problem. America is weak, due to liberal pacifists. As ugly as war is, the best way to win is to allow the military to do their own thing. They know how to win wars. It is what they train for. It is why young men enlist, to win. Not to be nation building. When you have someone that wars against you, then you retaliate by crushing them with your power. You will have far less war if you show your might than if you try to talk to them. Muslims, in particular do not respect weakness and will take advantage of it. No one likes war, but we hate seeing our people die when that could have been avoided by crushing the opposition. The problem with our liberals is that they do not live in reality. They live like everyone wants to live in a dream world. The fact is that if they would get out of the way, our country would be safe again. Our military does not enjoy killing people, but they are good at it. We will have less or OURS dying if we allow them to do the job they trained to do. ALL of our military members volunteered/joined to fight for their country. That is what they prepare to do every day of their enlistment. War is hard and someone has to die. Let those that die be on the other side. Yes, civilians are collateral damage. You can't fight a war without civilian casualties. That's life, that's war. Accept it and quit making our military feel guilty for collateral damage.

If you want more bang for your tax money, then tell the gov to quit tying our military hands behind our backs and let them do what they were trained to do.
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:09 AM
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I'm not a veteran nor do I know much about military strategy but I am an expert at paying federal income taxes and had 44 years of experience doing so before I retired. I'm very curious how much we have paid for each bad guy or Isis fighter we have killed in the last 14 years. My guess is it is well over $20,000.00 a piece. Isis does not own a battleship of any kind, no fighter jets (not even a Piper Cub), no tanks, no Pentagon, no airbases, etc. Two weeks ago a lone radical Muslim killed 49 Americams and wounded as many. I have no idea what the cost to tax payers will be for all the police response that was required to stop him or the medical cost for all the wounded. He spent at most $1500.00 for his firearms and 250.00 for ammo. We have lost thousands of our own soldiers and have added thousands to those disabled for life. We have thousands with PTSD with no ides what the cost will be. On top of that we have paid for none of it, just passed it off to our grandchildren. Can someone tell me what I am missing.
Your government is full of corruption, each out for power and wealth. The D and R parties perpetuate it. It's time for a French Revolution. You and I and everyone else DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN ORLANDO. Don't trust anything that comes from TV or newspaper. Propaganda rules.
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:27 AM
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Your government is full of corruption, each out for power and wealth. The D and R parties perpetuate it. It's time for a French Revolution. You and I and everyone else DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN ORLANDO. Don't trust anything that comes from TV or newspaper. Propaganda rules.
OK, don't you think that your little on-going joke has petered out? No one is that stupid, so quit pretending. Go find some place else to play, if you are not interested in the political discussion.
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:29 AM
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A substantive question, perhaps?

What do you want? Is there a question there, other than "what's wrong with me?" that you seem to be asking? I doubt anyone can answer that part. If you are suggesting that war and law enforcement are too expensive so we should just ignore terrorism, then you do have a problem. America is weak, due to liberal pacifists. As ugly as war is, the best way to win is to allow the military to do their own thing. They know how to win wars. It is what they train for. It is why young men enlist, to win. Not to be nation building. When you have someone that wars against you, then you retaliate by crushing them with your power. You will have far less war if you show your might than if you try to talk to them. Muslims, in particular do not respect weakness and will take advantage of it. No one likes war, but we hate seeing our people die when that could have been avoided by crushing the opposition. The problem with our liberals is that they do not live in reality. They live like everyone wants to live in a dream world. The fact is that if they would get out of the way, our country would be safe again. Our military does not enjoy killing people, but they are good at it. We will have less or OURS dying if we allow them to do the job they trained to do. ALL of our military members volunteered/joined to fight for their country. That is what they prepare to do every day of their enlistment. War is hard and someone has to die. Let those that die be on the other side. Yes, civilians are collateral damage. You can't fight a war without civilian casualties. That's life, that's war. Accept it and quit making our military feel guilty for collateral damage.

If you want more bang for your tax money, then tell the gov to quit tying our military hands behind our backs and let them do what they were trained to do.
You can't fight a "civilized" war. It never ends well. Rome started doing it and it cost them their empire. We're doing it and it's costing us our empire.

To "win" a war...everyone on the other side dies. Otherwise, you'll be dealing with them forever. Survivors hate you and want you gone. As the survivors grow in number, they slowly change the culture BACK to what they had before you came. Empires over extending is what causes their downfall. We're over extended.

It's a reason "they're" pushing for the one world order. One world government with the same rules everywhere. The one world order is being pushed by those who control the huge multinationals. They want an open world. Unfortunately, that also opens the floodgates for "refugees" fleeing to a better life, in a better place...that unfortunately causes it to become just like where they left.

As long as the natives remain, you haven't won the war. And you'll NEVER win the hearts and minds of the conquered. They all need to go if you want to win.

The Muslims had conquered all on N Africa, Spain, and were into France when the Crusades occurred. They drove the Muslims back into the ME. We are in a modern day struggle with Muslims today as they again, try to invade Europe. Why? Because we didn't win the war, we didn't kill them all. It's the only way to "win" a war.

We don't "war" to win a war, we "war" to change "unfriendly"governments to "friendly" governments who will work with the global banks and corporations. We "war" for profits. "War is a racket", a money making racket.
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:32 AM
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OK, don't you think that your little on-going joke has petered out? No one is that stupid, so quit pretending. Go find some place else to play, if you are not interested in the political discussion.
Joke?

Obviously you ARE that stupid. Everything said is true.

I bet you watch a lot of TV? Keep up with the "news"?

You're being manipulated, told what to think, turn it off for your own sanity.
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:49 AM
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Joke?

Obviously you ARE that stupid. Everything said is true.

I bet you watch a lot of TV? Keep up with the "news"?

You're being manipulated, told what to think, turn it off for your own sanity.
I have another paranoid neighbor on my street that you should get to know. You two both think that the gov and everyone else is spying on you. Can't you read or watch the news and make up your own mind as to what is legit and what is not? Remember, when you think that everyone else is out there is crazy, it is you that is most likely the crazy one.

If you are not running a joke on here, then you REALLY should seek professional help, because you have a serious problem. And I doubt you will get permission to build a bomb shelter in The villages.
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:39 AM
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.I have another paranoid neighbor on my street that you should get to know. You two both think that the gov and everyone else is spying on you Can't you read or watch the news and make up your own mind as to what is legit and what is not? Remember, when you think that everyone else is out there is crazy, it is you that is most likely the crazy one.

If you are not running a joke on here, then you REALLY should seek professional help, because you have a serious problem. And I doubt you will get permission to build a bomb shelter in The villages.
I don't think I'm being spied on per se. But I do know the corporation collect data on me for marketing purposes.

The news is full of false "stories", some are complete lies. I know, I was involved in some. "History" is not what you think it is.

I don't think everyone else is crazy. They're misinformed.

Lots of people post here. I can't tell the difference unless they have a signature. Are there a few posting or many?
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Old 07-02-2016, 08:49 AM
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I don't think I'm being spied on per se. But I do know the corporation collect data on me for marketing purposes.

The news is full of false "stories", some are complete lies. I know, I was involved in some. "History" is not what you think it is.

I don't think everyone else is crazy. They're misinformed.

Lots of people post here. I can't tell the difference unless they have a signature. Are there a few posting or many?
Probably a whole bunch of 'em watching you and posting on here. Everyone appears to be "misinformed" but you. I bet you are a very smart person....
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Old 07-03-2016, 06:10 AM
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Probably a whole bunch of 'em watching you and posting on here. Everyone appears to be "misinformed" but you. I bet you are a very smart person....
No, not everyone is misinformed...YOU are.

Yes, I am, probably smarter than you based on your reply.

The difference between you and I, I KNOW about most of what I say because I've taken the time to check things out.

I don't know everything, but I'm pretty sure I'm right when I do say something because I've personally checked into the facts, as best as I can.

I also KNOW that much in the "history" books is wrong, propaganda...having lived through the events.
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:36 AM
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No, not everyone is misinformed...YOU are.

Yes, I am, probably smarter than you based on your reply.

The difference between you and I, I KNOW about most of what I say because I've taken the time to check things out.

I don't know everything, but I'm pretty sure I'm right when I do say something because I've personally checked into the facts, as best as I can.

I also KNOW that much in the "history" books is wrong, propaganda...having lived through the events.
Providing sources would substantiate you findings or opinion. That's why bibliographies are necessary in professional writings.

Living through the Cuban Missile, Kennedy Assassination, Watergate and the Persian Gulf War in and of itself does automatically make you an expert.

It's OK to make up opinions just don't make up the facts.

That seems to be your argument, everyone is making up facts. But the posters that provide sources at least have some credibility.

"Not all information is created equal. Just because you find information at the library does not guarantee that it is accurate or good research. In an academic setting, being able to critically evaluate information is necessary in order to conduct quality research. Each item you find must be evaluated to determine its quality and credibility in order to best support your research."
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Is that correct?
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:38 AM
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Providing sources would substantiate you findings or opinion. That's why bibliographies are necessary in professional writings.

Living through the Cuban Missile, Kennedy Assassination, Watergate and the Persian Gulf War "in and of itself does automatically" make you an expert."

It's OK to make up opinions just don't make up the facts.

That seems to be your argument, everyone is making up facts. But the posters that provide sources at least have some credibility.

"Not all information is created equal. Just because you find information at the library does not guarantee that it is accurate or good research. In an academic setting, being able to critically evaluate information is necessary in order to conduct quality research. Each item you find must be evaluated to determine its quality and credibility in order to best support your research."
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Is that correct?
"in and of itself does NOT automatically"
[oops--i forgot the not]
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Old 07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
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As long as the natives remain, you haven't won the war. And you'll NEVER win the hearts and minds of the conquered. They all need to go if you want to win.

The Muslims had conquered all on N Africa, Spain, and were into France when the Crusades occurred. They drove the Muslims back into the ME. We are in a modern day struggle with Muslims today as they again, try to invade Europe. Why? Because we didn't win the war, we didn't kill them all. It's the only way to "win" a war.

We don't "war" to win a war, we "war" to change "unfriendly"governments to "friendly" governments who will work with the global banks and corporations. We "war" for profits. "War is a racket", a money making racket.
We have a President that is Muslim, changed his name so he could follow the religion of Islam, then declares he is a Christain for election purposes. He constantly belittles Christians for our feelings about Muslim's in general, yet he never belittles the Muslim's that treat women and girls in unspeakable ways, and refused to utter the words "radical Islamic extremists". To put a realistic twist on an old saying, "he is a Muslim in Christian clothing." This is not the leader we need to fight our battles.
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Old 07-03-2016, 03:15 PM
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We have a President that is Muslim, changed his name so he could follow the religion of Islam, then declares he is a Christain for election purposes. He constantly belittles Christians for our feelings about Muslim's in general, yet he never belittles the Muslim's that treat women and girls in unspeakable ways, and refused to utter the words "radical Islamic extremists". To put a realistic twist on an old saying, "he is a Muslim in Christian clothing." This is not the leader we need to fight our battles.
 

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