Originally Posted by Guest

These problems did not start during the Obama administration as the system has run amuck for a long time. My point is that there has been a lot of improvement. HOW is the military weaker? So facts please. And WELFARE, what about corporate welfare? If you believe that food stamps out weigh the billions that our tax dollars that corporations are getting you are very misinformed. We have no influence over our elected congressional and senatorial choices... thanks to "Citizens United" they are beholding to Big money. It seems no one wants to admit what a devastating mistake we made in invading Iraq. Our actions created the terror crisis and the situation in the Middle East. Our reputation when Obama took office was at the lowest point in our history.
The deficit.... who in your memory has done anything to fix the problem? Who has the final say in our spending? That's easy, congress. And what party controls congress?
I am sick and tired of the false rhetoric from the right. The moderates of the GOP have abdicated to the fanatical ravings of lunatic.. Worse the moderates who lobbied against this demagogue have jumped on the bandwagon. My point is ''Make America Great Again" is another flag waving tactic by a master demagogue and his supporters. The bigger questions how anyone can support this man knowing all the mean, racist actions he has portrayed.

I was going to attempt to correct your rediculous spew, and then realized that it would be a wasted effort. It is undoubtedly the most ignorant and uninformed comment I have read today. You really should do some research before making declarations about statements being wrong. If you wish to make your post credible, prove it. Yes, our military is worst equipped than it has been in decades. Look it up. You have no/NO evidence of Trump being racist. His actions dictate otherwise.
Never mind, I am not going to waste my time on the ignorant.

Originally Posted by Guest

These problems did not start during the Obama administration as the system has run amuck for a long time. My point is that there has been a lot of improvement. HOW is the military weaker? So facts please. And WELFARE, what about corporate welfare? If you believe that food stamps out weigh the billions that our tax dollars that corporations are getting you are very misinformed. We have no influence over our elected congressional and senatorial choices... thanks to "Citizens United" they are beholding to Big money. It seems no one wants to admit what a devastating mistake we made in invading Iraq. Our actions created the terror crisis and the situation in the Middle East. Our reputation when Obama took office was at the lowest point in our history.
The deficit.... who in your memory has done anything to fix the problem? Who has the final say in our spending? That's easy, congress. And what party controls congress?
I am sick and tired of the false rhetoric from the right. The moderates of the GOP have abdicated to the fanatical ravings of lunatic.. Worse the moderates who lobbied against this demagogue have jumped on the bandwagon. My point is ''Make America Great Again" is another flag waving tactic by a master demagogue and his supporters. The bigger questions how anyone can support this man knowing all the mean, racist actions he has portrayed.

Nice post. Maybe we can get someone else other than the usual suspects to read this Political Forum.

Originally Posted by Guest

Nice post. Maybe we can get someone else other than the usual suspects to read this Political Forum.

It is a nice post, Trump is no Republican and not responsible for any of it. He was a Democrat, then an independent, then a Republican in order to get elected president to clean out the crap, all of it.

Everytime Hillary calls someone a racist, she is calling for that person's assassination.

Originally Posted by Guest

Everytime Hillary calls someone a racist, she is calling for that person's assassination.

Originally Posted by Guest

I would really like to know what the supporters of Trump mean by this promo pitch. You see, I have asked several red hats around the Villages, but no one seems to be able to give a sensible explanation. You see I think America is GREAT now. During the last eight of the Obama administration, unemployment has improved from 7.2% (under Bush) to 5%. The cost of gas back then was $3.25 per gallon. The last I filled up I paid $2.03. The uninsured rate was over 15% of Americans… it is now 9%. GDP growth has grown from -0.3 to +3.7%. The DOW Jones went from 10,000 to today’s over $16,000. Teen pregnancy as a result of planned parenthood initiatives is down 40%. The agreement with Iran’s government has resulted in a reduction of 75% in the number of centrifuges as the deal is working contrary some conservative circles. And the idea that our military is weak is just hogwash according to the pentagon and independent military think tanks.
Most important is that we have not waged any senseless wars as the prior leaders did in invading Iraq.

So, what is it that we should go back to? Seems like we as a nation have seen marked improvements over our prior leaders. So, don’t buy on to all the false rhetoric but do some fact checking before you support a movement that you cannot support with facts.

iN YOUR EYES OBAMA AND THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS CAN DO NO WRONG.

FACT-OBAMA HAS ADDED TEN TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. Do you comprehend what that is?
Check it out and you will be shocked to LEARN contrary to what OBAMA is feeding you CHINA is NOT our largest creditor. We owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, together Japan and China hold less than 20% of the National Debt-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. You/WE had no choice but to pay into our government PONZI SCHEME. OBAMA AND HIS ADMINISTRATION SPENT THE MONEY WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO ALLOW HIM TO HOLD.

As to the price of gas-TRUTH BE TOLD YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Are you aware that over 1/3 if what you pay for gas is TAX? READ ABOUT OIL-it is truly shocking-how many gallons are in a barrel of oil-bet you do not know. oil is drilled on a lease basis-most of the land where oil is drilled is government owned-so we own the oil. what percentage of the oil we use comes for the middle east? As to useless wars-If, you were to READ you would find what is REALLY GOING ON. Just like HITLER,
MUSSOLINI AND HIROHITO in WWII the muslims want to take over the world. WERE YOU TO READ THE KORAN-THAT IS WHAT IS SAYS. What OBAMA SAYS IS ONLY FOR LIBERAL CONSUMPTION-HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUTH. Why has OBAMA-YOUR HERO-repeatedly vetoed the keystone pipeline. THAT ANSWER I WILL GIVE YOU-you remember of course the BULL SPEECH from Buffet about his tax rate. YOU PROBABLY ARE NOT AWARE-NOR DO YOU WANT TO KNOW-Buffet having aready given as much as he LEGALLY COULD to buy OBAMA paid for a CHICAGO FUNDRAISER for Obama. LET ME PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR YOU-Buffet owns the railroad carrying the crude oil-the keysone pipeline would have cost him a large fortune.

YOU HAVE BEEN HAD. Your reported saving of a dollar a gallon on gasoline. JUST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY INCLUDING YOUR PET DOG OWES OVER 100,000 ON YOUR SHARE OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is a sales pitch. Same as OPENED GOVERNMENT, OBAMACARE WILL COST NOTHING,
TAX THE RICH AND THE REST OF THAT BULL

RE: TAX THE RICH
AGAIN READ-if you simply TAKE everything the top 1% have. I'M NOT SAYING INCREASE THEIR TAX RATE OR....
I'M SAYING TAKE IT-it will not pay the TEN TRILLION DOLLARS OBAMA added to the national debt. As to the build a wall nonsense. MEXICO will gladly accept our rich and will send back as many poor as OBAMA wishes.

THE OBAMA RESULTS-
THE RICH HAVE GOTTEN RICHER. THE POOR HAVE GOTTEN POORER, WE ARE STILL FIGHTING AND DYING IN THE MIDDLE EAST-THE ADDRESSES HAVE CHANGED IN SOME CASES. OUR NATIONAL DEBT HAS DOUBLED. THE TOO BIG TO FAIL BANKS HAVE GOTTEN LARGER NOT SMALLER.
AS TO REDUCTION OF CENTRIFUGES IN IRAN. YET ANOTHER BULL STORY. IN WWII WE BUILT THE ATOMIC BOMB IN TWO YEARS. AT THE TIME IT WAS A THEORY TODAY YOU CAN FIND POSTED ON THE INTERNET HOW WE DID IT. THE ISSUE IS TO GET PURE ENOUGH U235 UNSTABLE FORM OF URANIUM TO GET THE CHAIN REACTION WE CALL AN ATOMIC BOMB. WE DID IT IN WWiII WITH 300 HUNDRED OR SO 3 FOOT CENTRIFUGES
IRAN HAS FAR LARGER AND FAR MORE CENTRIFUGES AND THEY HAVE, ACCORDING TO THE BULL WE ARE BEING FED, been working on the Atomic bomb far longer than the two years it too us to do it. The facts are-IRAN HAS THE ATOMIC BOMB. They have the fuel, they have the detonators. THEY ONLY NEED TO BOLT THEM TOGETHER.

SOLUTION-I DON'T HAVE ONE.
BUT, WHILE FIGURES DON'T LIE-IF YOU CHOKE THEM HARD ENOUGH-AS YOU ARE WILLING TO DO-YOU CAN MAKE THEM SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.

What does "Make America Great Again" really mean.

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What is the logic in blaming Trump for Bush. None.

Just desperation.

Originally Posted by Guest

iN YOUR EYES OBAMA AND THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS CAN DO NO WRONG.

FACT-OBAMA HAS ADDED TEN TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. Do you comprehend what that is?
Check it out and you will be shocked to LEARN contrary to what OBAMA is feeding you CHINA is NOT our largest creditor. We owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, together Japan and China hold less than 20% of the National Debt-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. You/WE had no choice but to pay into our government PONZI SCHEME. OBAMA AND HIS ADMINISTRATION SPENT THE MONEY WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO ALLOW HIM TO HOLD.

As to the price of gas-TRUTH BE TOLD YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Are you aware that over 1/3 if what you pay for gas is TAX? READ ABOUT OIL-it is truly shocking-how many gallons are in a barrel of oil-bet you do not know. oil is drilled on a lease basis-most of the land where oil is drilled is government owned-so we own the oil. what percentage of the oil we use comes for the middle east? As to useless wars-If, you were to READ you would find what is REALLY GOING ON. Just like HITLER,
MUSSOLINI AND HIROHITO in WWII the muslims want to take over the world. WERE YOU TO READ THE KORAN-THAT IS WHAT IS SAYS. What OBAMA SAYS IS ONLY FOR LIBERAL CONSUMPTION-HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUTH. Why has OBAMA-YOUR HERO-repeatedly vetoed the keystone pipeline. THAT ANSWER I WILL GIVE YOU-you remember of course the BULL SPEECH from Buffet about his tax rate. YOU PROBABLY ARE NOT AWARE-NOR DO YOU WANT TO KNOW-Buffet having aready given as much as he LEGALLY COULD to buy OBAMA paid for a CHICAGO FUNDRAISER for Obama. LET ME PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR YOU-Buffet owns the railroad carrying the crude oil-the keysone pipeline would have cost him a large fortune.

YOU HAVE BEEN HAD. Your reported saving of a dollar a gallon on gasoline. JUST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY INCLUDING YOUR PET DOG OWES OVER 100,000 ON YOUR SHARE OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is a sales pitch. Same as OPENED GOVERNMENT, OBAMACARE WILL COST NOTHING,
TAX THE RICH AND THE REST OF THAT BULL

RE: TAX THE RICH
AGAIN READ-if you simply TAKE everything the top 1% have. I'M NOT SAYING INCREASE THEIR TAX RATE OR....
I'M SAYING TAKE IT-it will not pay the TEN TRILLION DOLLARS OBAMA added to the national debt. As to the build a wall nonsense. MEXICO will gladly accept our rich and will send back as many poor as OBAMA wishes.

THE OBAMA RESULTS-
THE RICH HAVE GOTTEN RICHER. THE POOR HAVE GOTTEN POORER, WE ARE STILL FIGHTING AND DYING IN THE MIDDLE EAST-THE ADDRESSES HAVE CHANGED IN SOME CASES. OUR NATIONAL DEBT HAS DOUBLED. THE TOO BIG TO FAIL BANKS HAVE GOTTEN LARGER NOT SMALLER.
AS TO REDUCTION OF CENTRIFUGES IN IRAN. YET ANOTHER BULL STORY. IN WWII WE BUILT THE ATOMIC BOMB IN TWO YEARS. AT THE TIME IT WAS A THEORY TODAY YOU CAN FIND POSTED ON THE INTERNET HOW WE DID IT. THE ISSUE IS TO GET PURE ENOUGH U235 UNSTABLE FORM OF URANIUM TO GET THE CHAIN REACTION WE CALL AN ATOMIC BOMB. WE DID IT IN WWiII WITH 300 HUNDRED OR SO 3 FOOT CENTRIFUGES
IRAN HAS FAR LARGER AND FAR MORE CENTRIFUGES AND THEY HAVE, ACCORDING TO THE BULL WE ARE BEING FED, been working on the Atomic bomb far longer than the two years it too us to do it. The facts are-IRAN HAS THE ATOMIC BOMB. They have the fuel, they have the detonators. THEY ONLY NEED TO BOLT THEM TOGETHER.

SOLUTION-I DON'T HAVE ONE.
BUT, WHILE FIGURES DON'T LIE-IF YOU CHOKE THEM HARD ENOUGH-AS YOU ARE WILLING TO DO-YOU CAN MAKE THEM SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.

No more coffee this morning for you.

What does "Make America Great Again" mean?

America was great during the Reagan years when even the Democrats were happy. I know, it sounds impossible.
America was great during the Bush years when his polls were in the 90's, over 30% higher than Obie has ever achieved.

I'd say that America is great when our country is not so divided, as it has become in the past 8 years.

No matter how well we attempt to get along with the left or how much we compromise, liberals will never be happy. Even when they get their own way (ie. ObamaCare) they are not satisfied or happy. If they were to win this election, which seems impossible right now, they would not be happy. No matter what happens, they always blame their faults on Republicans. They blame Republicans for Obamacare failing. They blame Republicans for just about anything that makes them feel less responsible for their actions. And they make excuses for a failed administration. We have had a stagnant economy with no growth for 8 years, but they think everything is great. The GDP has NEVER reached a 3% year during this administration, the first administration ever to have such a miserable accounting. There are still 45 million on food stamps. The poverty rate is high. Home ownership is the lowest its been since WWII. There is an astronomical amount of work aged citizens that left the job force. These are not indications of America being great again.

We live in a country divided. Not because of the right. It's because the left plays on the differences in people such as race, gender, gender confused, wealth, the hated big business, etc. They condone deviant behavior, radical extremism and make excuses for it, and believe in free lunches for everyone. They want a fictitious Utopia that does not and never will exist. Anyone that does not agree with them is the enemy, except the real enemy overseas that they want to turn a blind eye to. They want to be protected as long as it does not infringe on their perceived rights. The left is NOT patriotic and considers such loyalty to be racist or bigoted, or even below their education level. They say they are not divisive and yet consider anyone on the right to be uneducated. They say we are uneducated and yet, they have the support of the 47% of non-tax paying voters. Apparently, the voters that are either too unmotivated to work or under educated.

The right has compromised their morals and ethics to accommodate the left and we finally have someone that is outspoken about it. Yes, the Republican establishment does not approve of him. Why? Because they are afraid they will lose their voters and thus lose their jobs. He is spotlighting their weakness and they resent it. He's not perfect, but he is a bullhorn for a large amount of folks that are just fed up with bending for the ungrateful.

Thanks to perceived slights and misplaced anger, the left is once again the movement of the 60's. They have gone full circle and have become radical to the point just shy of terroristic. Their protests have been violent and calling for violence. And then they blame Trump for their criminal actions. Sorry but we are not listening to your blame game. It is your fault only and you need to grow up and take responsibility. No one causes your violence but you. You have the option to walk away, to resist acting on your anger. I do not consider poverty as a basis or excuse for violence. I do not consider wealth as an excuse for vandalism or violence. I do not consider the actions of a few police officers as a basis for violence against the many that are good pubic servants. The left is full of misplaced anger. And they are in denial. They blame the right for their own actions.

Hillary has broken many laws (felonies) and will not be persecuted until after the elections. But, to overlook her actions and vote for her, makes one wonder what the motivation is regarding votes for her. Liberals deny her culpability in any crimes even with the preponderance of evidence readily available for their perusal. If one was to observe the size of the turnout for her functions, they would see how little support she really has. I believe that this will correlate to votes in Nov. Yes, she does have a lot of funding, but if you examine where her money comes from, the big money is from the corrupt or from overseas. People that have a lot to gain by her winning.

The only thing that will make America Great again, appears to be another major war. And even then, it will be the patriotic right that will sacrifice while the left sits back and criticizes when they think they can get away with it. It's not HATE you see or hear from us. It's ANGER.

We all know the definition of hate when used in politics.....disagreement with the democratic position.....NO MATTTER WHAT!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

What is the logic in blaming Trump for Bush. None.

Just desperation.

If Bush was popular, people like Bush, with his values would be running for president. The Republican wanted something different and you got it. You had too many candidates that were alike so something different won.

Originally Posted by Guest

If Bush was popular, people like Bush, with his values would be running for president. The Republican wanted something different and you got it. You had too many candidates that were alike so something different won.

tf

what does MAke America Great Again mean?

Pretty simple....DO NOT LET THE DEMOCRATS IN FOR A 3RD OBAMA TERM.

Originally Posted by Guest

I would really like to know what the supporters of Trump mean by this promo pitch. You see, I have asked several red hats around the Villages, but no one seems to be able to give a sensible explanation. You see I think America is GREAT now. During the last eight of the Obama administration, unemployment has improved from 7.2% (under Bush) to 5%. The cost of gas back then was $3.25 per gallon. The last I filled up I paid $2.03. The uninsured rate was over 15% of Americans… it is now 9%. GDP growth has grown from -0.3 to +3.7%. The DOW Jones went from 10,000 to today’s over $16,000. Teen pregnancy as a result of planned parenthood initiatives is down 40%. The agreement with Iran’s government has resulted in a reduction of 75% in the number of centrifuges as the deal is working contrary some conservative circles. And the idea that our military is weak is just hogwash according to the pentagon and independent military think tanks.
Most important is that we have not waged any senseless wars as the prior leaders did in invading Iraq.

So, what is it that we should go back to? Seems like we as a nation have seen marked improvements over our prior leaders. So, don’t buy on to all the false rhetoric but do some fact checking before you support a movement that you cannot support with facts.

One would have to believe that his campaign slogan means make America all white with no Hispanics and no Muslims and of course no immigrants of any kind except the millions who are already here and make America great just as it is!